Analyst: Warfighter Failure May End Medal of Honor Franchise
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We're tired of the hottest setting du jour
We're modern gamers and we expect more, than shooting of humans and punishing doors!
The copies and pastes are making us sick
Who does the green-lighting, they must be thick!
We've traveled through time, all over the place
You ruined Garriott, he took us to space!
We're really expecting to see so much more, than all the dead bodies and kicking of doors!
One Call of Duty is more than enough
You're lucky that Battlefield's strutting its stuff
For 60 bucks we want more on the plate
So get off your asses and please innovate!
We're modern gamers and we expect more, than shooting of humans and punishing doors!
The copies and pastes are making us sick
Who does the green-lighting, they must be thick!
We've traveled through time, all over the place
You ruined Garriott, he took us to space!
We're really expecting to see so much more, than all the dead bodies and kicking of doors!
One Call of Duty is more than enough
You're lucky that Battlefield's strutting its stuff
For 60 bucks we want more on the plate
So get off your asses and please innovate!
This is somewhat surprising. Since all the things reviewers like IGN and Gamespot complain about the game seem to be exactly like CoD...except CoD gets great reviews. One of the complaints was that the campaign was ' a brief five hours long'. Don't piss down my back and call it rain. On medium (Or whatever the second difficulty was), the MW3 was only four and a half hours long. None of the characters were remotely interesting. The scripted set scenes were about as fun to watch as Transformers (So...fun to watch, but not to think about or remember much of later). And Warfighter was exactly that.
I will actually go out on a limb and say Warfighter was better than the MW series together. But Warfighter gets raped by the critics. This makes me wonder either A: just how much money Activision throws at critics...or B: (And one I find much more likely) Critics review games with a lot less objective perspective than they claim.
Besides, the main reason CoD has such a success was for it's multiplayer, not it's single-player campaign. That's one of the reasons Medal of Honour didn't do as well or compete as well as EA expected.
I will actually go out on a limb and say Warfighter was better than the MW series together. But Warfighter gets raped by the critics. This makes me wonder either A: just how much money Activision throws at critics...or B: (And one I find much more likely) Critics review games with a lot less objective perspective than they claim.
Besides, the main reason CoD has such a success was for it's multiplayer, not it's single-player campaign. That's one of the reasons Medal of Honour didn't do as well or compete as well as EA expected.
cieply said:
I admit that he should be speaking on how genres of games should sell or technical specs of anything, but that's not his strong point. He's an anylyst. He makes predictions based on what info he's given.
Being angry for an analyst for being wrong is like getting mad at the weatherman. You know that there's a decent chance that they aren't 100% right, or hell even in most cases in general. Its their job to tell you what's likely to happen, not what will happen.
By the way, he has be accurate with some of his predictions. Like the Wii U's price point. He was almost dead on with that one.
He was also right on the Kinect outselling the PS Move 5 to 1
He's also been right about some price drops and about COD charging people for online (via ELITE)
I still don't get the rampant hate.
We can still hope Capcom comes out with Street Fighter: Kickpuncher. Or maybe Bethesda will put out the new Skyrim DLC Dragonyeller.Formica Archonis said:
I hate when this guy talks, right or wrong he isn't making statements of any meaning. Though, in all fairness, he isn't speaking to us so a story like this does gamers such as the people who frequent this site and others like it no good. He is making statements based on summation of data that affects EA and EA investors. But he can still lick my balls.
By this analysts logic Nintendo, EA, Capcom and many others should be bancrupt by now.
PErsonally i thought that Warfighter combined the best of COD and BF3. not that it makes it the best game, but why hasnt these 2 gotten low scores is beyond me.
Also, Medal Of Honor was never a "big" franchise. it was always that game you remembered about only when you saw it, so to expect a miracle is stupid.
PErsonally i thought that Warfighter combined the best of COD and BF3. not that it makes it the best game, but why hasnt these 2 gotten low scores is beyond me.
Also, Medal Of Honor was never a "big" franchise. it was always that game you remembered about only when you saw it, so to expect a miracle is stupid.
The problem is that it, and a bunch of other lesser franchises, keep trying to out-COD, COD. You can't win that way, not with how massive and ubiquitous COD has become in the gaming community. The fact is, Call of Duty basically created the present-day modern military shooter genre. There were others before it, like Counter-Strike and Battlefield 2 (I think it came out first. Maybe not though), but COD is the one that truly hit the mainstream and kept running. It put in place and began to refine most of the tropes and elements that the other games are trying to imitate... and when you put a newer, less polished product up against an older, more refined one, people are going to stick to that more refined product.Jandau said:
You can't beat COD by becoming COD. It's already got a massive head-start on the sub-genre it helped create. Even Battlefield only still exists because it already had a massive online community, and at its core, plays differently enough to be its own thing.
Honestly, Medal of Honor would have done better to go back to World War II, or even jump into the future. The only way to do a modern-era military action game is to pull a Spec-Ops and go for something totally different... something darker, more introspective and serious, instead of a Michael Bay-esque explosion-fueled gun-porn, borderline propaganda, patriotism simulator.
well, it does play different that CoD. For example, the knife is not an instant kill and running and gunning your enemy won't work most of the time. It requires more thought and precision. So yeah, visually, it's the same.Jandau said:
However, that's not to say MoH:W isn't a clone of its stepbrother, Battlefield 3. Because it is. Minus some vehicles.
OT: It sucks because it was supposedly written by real soldiers and stuff. So it could have been interesting. But its not just the fact that its another clone but the game itself has connection problems, the menu is difficult to navigate and so on.
Is it safe to say this game was just a quick way for EA to get some extra bucks and build up the hype for Battlefield 4? Sounds like something EA might do.
The Necromorphs don't have guns, the Unitologists do.Random berk said:
It is kind of the logical progression, since in all of the EU material, Unitologists have been major antagonists and were often armed with weapons, like that one guy with the laser chainsaw who chopped another crew member in half. It's just Isaac's turn to deal with the crazies now.
I'm apathetic to this news. E.A could throw a three day money burning and booze guzzling party, with massive bonfires of cash rising far as the eye can see blazing away fed constantly by shovels of fat wads of bills, and at the end of that three days they'd still be solvent.
It doesn't matter if one game fails to meet expectations, it's not going to change anything. E.A will march on, doing what it does, regardless.
Of course, you can't only screw up this bad so many times, but I'd say E.A has at least a few... dozen more chances to release a game that people actually want to buy before they've really and truly screwed themselves beyond repair.
It doesn't matter if one game fails to meet expectations, it's not going to change anything. E.A will march on, doing what it does, regardless.
Of course, you can't only screw up this bad so many times, but I'd say E.A has at least a few... dozen more chances to release a game that people actually want to buy before they've really and truly screwed themselves beyond repair.
The Unitologists would fall under the 'other guys with pulse rifles' group that I mentioned.Kopikatsu said:
It doesn't take Michael Pachter to see something like this.erttheking said:
MOH against 3 major sequels, a amazing new IP and a reboot that is actually good?