And the willing suspension bridge of disbelief came crashing down....

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VoidWanderer said:
xXxJessicaxXx said:
VoidWanderer said:
it was based on a novella by Steven King. So I figured that there would a supernatural element that would haunt the protagonist
There isn't, it's a pure thriller, if I'm thinking of the same film...

I think mine is Stalker. It was pretty cool and immersive until I realised they expected you to take out 200 re spawning enemies per run with only the ammo a real person would carry...It would have been fine if the enemies didn't respawn I guess they forgot that doesn't happen in real life.
Probably true, but I cannot think of a Steven King novel/movie that does not involve a supernatural force screwing with the protagonist.
Well there is Misery which is like one of the most famous ones...
 

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Assassin's Creed series: Ezio can free run wearing several outfits at once plus armor and several weapons, but can still jump a horizontal distance of 15 feet. Also, running, jumping, and climbing with all that shit on in ITALY and not getting heat stroke. When I visited Napoli, near the time when I was as fit as I've ever been (which was pretty good), walking up 3 steps of stairs would draw quite a sweat. Granted it was summer, but so are parts of the game. I handwave it by reminding myself of Ezio's... unique ancestry. If they have Eagle Vision, then superhuman athletic ability isn't that farfetched.

Also, the guards have the old Ubisoft "must have been nothing" mentality, which is only slightly less ridiculous than the shit you could pull with blending in the first game. I've learned to stop worrying and love the fact that I can be more stealthy by dropping bodies in conspicuous places.

Borgia Captain: A body just fell out of the sky over there, I think I'll leave the protection of this heavily guarded tunnel and take a close loo- BLAM!

Seriously, this game increases notoriety for kills that automatically hide the bodies, but not for leaving trails of corpses.
 

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Being a grumpy bastard i refuse to suspend my disbelieve for allot of things, so here is a quick list of things i can think of off the top of my head...

energy shields, small scale laser weapons, plasma weapons, people falling +50m and living, people being able to hold swords bigger than them, magic, people being able to take bullets to the head, most uses of anti matter*, most depictions of space flight


* 1gram of matter/anti-matter would release the energy equiviltent to a 21Kt nuclear explosion
 

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So Escapists, has your own knowledge ever broken your willing suspension of disbelief?

It may not be a deal breaker, you can still enjoy the game, movie, show, book whatever but something just niggles at the back of your mind? Has something ever been so wrong that you just couldn't enjoy the subject matter anymore?

Recently I learned that the LD-50 (lethal dose for 50 percent of a population) for ionizing radiation for humans is 4 Gray or 400 rads. Playing Fallout 3 and my character is suffering radiation poisoning at 600rads. so either she is very very lucky or she is Dead!
Like I said not a deal breaker it just bothers me.
Facepalm.

If the LD-50 is the centre of a normal distribution then 600rads is well within the body of the population for survival but that isn't the last of it.

How about you read up on radiation poisoning a bit more, it is never that simple.

I worked as a radiographer and I saw patients regularly get up to 1 Gray to the torso in their treatment and they were expected to not show any symptoms. It's not just how many rads got through you but also:
-how much of the radiation is actually being absorbed
-what part of the body is absorbing it (eyes, skin, genital, bone marrow, brain, etc)
-what type of radiation (this is HUGELY important!)
-what rate is it being absorbed
-over what duration is it absorbed
-Was there a break in exposure
-what is the age/size/general-health of the subject
-Are they taking some treatment that might
-what shielding do they have (even a denim jacked makes a difference for alpha radiation)
-what the radiation emitted from outside, or inside the body from consumed particles

All these are far more important than the pure number of rads.

So you dropped your disbelief because you had worse than no-understanding of science, you had an incomplete understanding.
 

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I went and saw the Matthew Broderick Godzilla with a bunch of military friends and we had a list of about 50 by the end.

But our favorite was the idea of using heat-seeking missiles on a cold-blooded animal.
 

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xXxJessicaxXx said:
VoidWanderer said:
xXxJessicaxXx said:
VoidWanderer said:
it was based on a novella by Steven King. So I figured that there would a supernatural element that would haunt the protagonist
There isn't, it's a pure thriller, if I'm thinking of the same film...

I think mine is Stalker. It was pretty cool and immersive until I realised they expected you to take out 200 re spawning enemies per run with only the ammo a real person would carry...It would have been fine if the enemies didn't respawn I guess they forgot that doesn't happen in real life.
Probably true, but I cannot think of a Steven King novel/movie that does not involve a supernatural force screwing with the protagonist.
Well there is Misery which is like one of the most famous ones...
Rita Hayworth and the Shawshank Redemption, Apt Pupil, The Body (Stand by me). Pretty much everything out of Different Seasons except The Breathing Method. Gerald's Game as well.
 

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Not really anything from a game, but one thing that bothered me while watching Casino Royale for the second or third time a few years ago was when they described Le Chiffre's plan to blow up the plane and scam millions. In one scene they say he's buying stock options, in another they say he's shorting shares, and I think there was one more as well. The thing that bugged me is that they're all functionally different, yet they would all accomplish his same end goal. It felt like some of the scenes had some minor rewrites along the way and they never made sure they were consistent.

It's not exactly a huge gripe or anything, and I love the movie, but every time I watch it and see those scenes now the accountant in me cringes.
 

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RGman said:
I recently went throught a Doctor Who marathon (all 6 seasons from the 2005 series), just to see what the fuss was all about. Obviously I liked it (I endured 6 seasons in less than a week after all), but, as with any story based on time travel, it can get very stupid very fast. I know it's a fantasy show more than anything, the word "science" could be replaced by "magic" and the sonic screwdriver could be renamed as a magic wand and it would make no diference at all, but even then it's hard for me to suspend my disbelief.
Oh, come now. It can all be explained with one sentence:


Well, it started good. >.>
 

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I have that with everything. Just take things as they are and its fine. Otherwise i would have 1 million reasons why Star Trek is shit compared to Babylon 5. You have to accept each series, game, book etc for what it is. But then, why would you be reading/watching it if you are judging it on its reality?
 

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canadamus_prime said:
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darth.pixie said:
The Neverending story...once I read the book, the movies were forever ruined for me.
Why? I've seen the movies (well the first 2 anyway) and read the book and it didn't ruin them for me.
I read the book and loved it up until Bastian's half of the book. I wish a book had been written where Atreyu was the main character throughout.
You do know that the book came before the movie, right? Personally I found the book had a much deeper message than the movie(s).
Yeah, I know the book came out first, and overall I liked the book and the message I just thought Bastian was kind of a jerk. Atreyu on the other hand I really identified with and would have liked to read more about.
 

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My roommate was watching Battle: LA. I couldn't get into it and started picking it apart and ruined it for the both of us by the end. That movie was just so stupid I couldn't take it.
I remember doing that but can't remember what film it was while watching it with me dad. He's a no-nonsense kinda guy so he just told me to shut it :)
 

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dyre said:
I get slightly annoyed when people in movies fire weapons with endless magazines, or overuse full auto. But I get over it :p
Any time I see a gun being cocked/an arrow being nocked without twice with no shot in between. It irritates me to no end...

In pokemon games, I kind of accepted the trading machine because it was the only way to communicate with other players. The NPCs just trigger the process automatically when you trade with them. The anime comes around, and they need a machine to... pass the pokeballs to each other. Christ...
 

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TheVioletBandit said:
canadamus_prime said:
TheVioletBandit said:
canadamus_prime said:
darth.pixie said:
The Neverending story...once I read the book, the movies were forever ruined for me.
Why? I've seen the movies (well the first 2 anyway) and read the book and it didn't ruin them for me.
I read the book and loved it up until Bastian's half of the book. I wish a book had been written where Atreyu was the main character throughout.
You do know that the book came before the movie, right? Personally I found the book had a much deeper message than the movie(s).
Yeah, I know the book came out first, and overall I liked the book and the message I just thought Bastian was kind of a jerk. Atreyu on the other hand I really identified with and would have liked to read more about.
Yeah maybe, but he came out of it a better person though.
 

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Every time I see somebody die of strangulation within about 5 seconds in any film/book/game. It takes about 20 minutes of continuous airway blockage to cause somebody to die of strangulation. 10 minutes or so would cause brain damage. But the strangling "deaths" in films would, in reality, just be a momentary loss of consciousness.

I realise I sound ridiculously pedantic, but it's an absolute immersion breaker for me.

That and overly whitened teeth.
 

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I was gonna go with around the time Indiana Jones was using gun powder to find an electromagnet. I knew, completely, that someone had killed Dr Jones, and was wearing his skin. I may have cried a bit, in lamentations for the death of such a hero. But this is about games, so I'll go with around the time some Crusader Putz gets easily stabbed in the back after defending himself against about 12 dudes without so much as flinching, then kills death. Willing suspension of disbelief broken, tone set for game as 'retarded'. And it never got better. No, Dante's Inferno, no!

Camaranth said:
So Escapists, has your own knowledge ever broken your willing suspension of disbelief?

It may not be a deal breaker, you can still enjoy the game, movie, show, book whatever but something just niggles at the back of your mind? Has something ever been so wrong that you just couldn't enjoy the subject matter anymore?

Recently I learned that the LD-50 (lethal dose for 50 percent of a population) for ionizing radiation for humans is 4 Gray or 400 rads. Playing Fallout 3 and my character is suffering radiation poisoning at 600rads. so either she is very very lucky or she is Dead!
Like I said not a deal breaker it just bothers me.
So, it was the radiation, not the magic pre-war intravenous shots that could instantly fix your entire body that did it for you? Well, that's fair. I went in thinking it would be a fun apocalyptic jaunt, and came out realizing that I was Zeus, with armor that never needs repair and a gun that shoots exploding lightning bolts. I quickly realized I was not playing the game I thought I was, and adjusted accordingly.
 

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canadamus_prime said:
TheVioletBandit said:
canadamus_prime said:
TheVioletBandit said:
canadamus_prime said:
darth.pixie said:
The Neverending story...once I read the book, the movies were forever ruined for me.
Why? I've seen the movies (well the first 2 anyway) and read the book and it didn't ruin them for me.
I read the book and loved it up until Bastian's half of the book. I wish a book had been written where Atreyu was the main character throughout.
You do know that the book came before the movie, right? Personally I found the book had a much deeper message than the movie(s).
Yeah, I know the book came out first, and overall I liked the book and the message I just thought Bastian was kind of a jerk. Atreyu on the other hand I really identified with and would have liked to read more about.
Yeah maybe, but he came out of it a better person though.
How funny would it have been if he had came out a worse person forcing Atreyu to kill him and intern kill himself because he's a figment of Bastian's imagination?
 

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Xanadu84 said:
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Also, when something is on the lens, like a splatter of blood or a hunk of mud, my brain says, "Oh yes, that is right. There is a camera there, because this is all filmed on a stage/designed on a computer, and I am in a fictitious fantasy world, where my perspective if that of a passive observer" It is the very definition of breaking suspension of disbelief. Ill give tongue-in-cheek flicks like Tarentino a pass because weird embellishments fit, and video games that take place from a first person perspective that use it to signify the characters perspective at least have a logical reason, but for most other situations, I interpret gunk on a lens as attempt to be artsy by purposefully making an amateurish mistake in failing to keep the damn lens clean.
agree with you on the first one but what if the in FPS the character is wearing goggles/sunglass/or glass?