Angry Cat Traps Family In Bedroom, Forces 911 Call

[lacktheknack]

yeahhh no, I've known plenty of cats who have been raised since kittens and I know for a fact are treated well that act like dicks to people with no provocation what so ever.

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Wrong, you just don't know the reason they are doing this and don't care to find out.

Saying something over and over doesn't make it true.

If you know the magical answer to why my entirely untraumatized dog suddenly began freaking out at age 4 upon encountering long and thin objects, like a fireplace poker, to the point of nipping nearby people, please tell me. And then explain why he very suddenly stopped caring again a year later.

I'm going with "Animals have brains too, which can get their neurons crossed and cause unpredictable behaviour". Like any other realist.

 

[Gennadios]

My Himalayan definitely has a dark side. He's only 12 lbs but he was partially adopted by a raccoon family that lives in the backyard.

Some situations require a chair and a broomstick to manage him. Still, a total sweetie.

 

[immortalfrieza]

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No, it being true does. I have no way of knowing why your dog did that, I don't know anything about it, and I haven't done much research on dogs anyway. Regardless, they aren't doing it for no reason, no animal ever does.

I'm going with "animals act on instinct and never do anything for no reason" like anyone who actually knows what they're talking about and isn't making blind assumptions about animals when they've never even done a bit of research.

This 22 pound cat? The baby most likely scared or hurt it in some way so it fought back, and then the owner kicked it so it went into full on attack mode, both in self defense. There's nothing in the article about the cat attacking the officers that came to get it, it just hid. It's aggression was focused on the people that hurt it. Chances are since the owner's response to the cat scratching the baby was to kick it they probably hit it all the time.

 

[lacktheknack]

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No, it being true does. I have no way of knowing why your dog did that, I don't know anything about it, and I haven't done much research on dogs anyway. Regardless, they aren't doing it for no reason, no animal ever does.

I'm going with "animals act on instinct and never do anything for no reason" like anyone who actually knows what they're talking about and isn't making blind assumptions about animals when they've never even done a bit of research.

This 22 pound cat? The baby most likely scared or hurt it in some way so it fought back, and then the owner kicked it so it went into full on attack mode, both in self defense. There's nothing in the article about the cat attacking the officers that came to get it, it just hid. It's aggression was focused on the people that hurt it. Chances are since the owner's response to the cat scratching the baby was to kick it they probably hit it all the time.

Oh, I have no doubts that this specific cat was abused. Who the hell kicks their cat because it scratches someone?

That said, when someone says "animals are unpredictable", they're not saying they do things for no reason, they're saying they do things for no APPARENT reason, and that's reason enough to be cautious with animals. Even if you cling to "they do nothing without reason", surely you're not so naive as to think that you can predict an animal's every move.

 

[Sofus]

When I read this, I just couldn't help but remember the monty python killer rabbit.

 

[Robert Marrs]

This is really pathetic. Its a cat. Deal with it one way or another. If you can't handle an out of control cat and need to hide your whole family in a bedroom you need to re-evaluate your life. The dog should be as ashamed as the father.

 

[Robert Marrs]

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No, it being true does. I have no way of knowing why your dog did that, I don't know anything about it, and I haven't done much research on dogs anyway. Regardless, they aren't doing it for no reason, no animal ever does.

I'm going with "animals act on instinct and never do anything for no reason" like anyone who actually knows what they're talking about and isn't making blind assumptions about animals when they've never even done a bit of research.

This 22 pound cat? The baby most likely scared or hurt it in some way so it fought back, and then the owner kicked it so it went into full on attack mode, both in self defense. There's nothing in the article about the cat attacking the officers that came to get it, it just hid. It's aggression was focused on the people that hurt it. Chances are since the owner's response to the cat scratching the baby was to kick it they probably hit it all the time.

A normal cat will run to a safe place and defend itself. Cats that attack like that don't do it because they are abused, they do it because they are aggressive or because they realize whatever they feel threatened by is scared of them. The latter seems more likely in this case.

 

[immortalfrieza]

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Not to a T no, but as subtle as the reason might turn out to be, there's always a reason and one can probably prepare for it. If one can find the reason they can solve the problem and fix the bad behavior, it just might take some time and work. You can predict an animal's behavior if you know enough about an animal, it's just that the reason it's doing something might not be blatantly obvious, you might have to pay close attention.

Another thing, a baby probably shouldn't be anywhere an animal can get to it for the first few years if it can be avoided. The kid doesn't know how to handle an animal, which probably means the kid will hurt or frighten it, which leads to situations like this.

 

[FalloutJack]

22 POUNDS!!! What have they been feeding that thing? It's nearly twice the average weight of a cat that breed.

Personal theories of mine would include:

{1} Friskies![sup]TM[/sup] Deluxe Edition.

{2} Cat food laced with Weight-Gainer 4000.

{3} Recipes from the lesser-known Twilight Zone cookbook, 'To Serve Manx'.

OT: Seriously, though, I have cat experience and I am learned on the nature of actual wild cats. Your basic Felis Domesticus can be harmful if provoked, but it is not so dangerous as a 911 call unless you're thinking rabies or distemper. Otherwise, you can pretty much make the cat go "Holy Shit!" if you stomp on the floor with enough force to make the room shake. A cat can perform very quick maneuvers against a larger being or TRY to leap for the face, but really... Most of them are like "Gott en Himmel, I want out of here!" if you up the anty on threat display.

On the other hand, any man who kicks a cat can go to hell.

Captcha: 'That's right'. Damn straight.

 

[immortalfrieza]

A normal cat will run to a safe place and defend itself. Cats that attack like that don't do it because they are abused, they do it because they are aggressive or because they realize whatever they feel threatened by is scared of them. The latter seems more likely in this case.

Unless it was cornered, or being chased, or...

It could be any number of things, but a cat is never aggressive for no reason, this is a fact. An abused animal will fight back as well, especially if they've been abused for a long time, something's got to give. Not all animals are inclined to hide when they are threatened either.

 

[Bara_no_Hime]

No they're not. No cat has ever done bad things just to be a dick, they've always done it because the owner either failed to do something or did something bad to them first, as was obviously the case here.

Actually, it seems that you are the one who needs to do your research, as this statement is entirely false.

Cats kill for fun. There are scientific studies that prove this. Cats only eat or gift 50% of their kills. The other 50% they leave to rot.

Cats are often dicks for their own personal amusement.

Now, that said, striking a cat is not a good idea - you don't typically want to hurt a predator since predators will hurt you right back. That is instinct.

However, in the case of cats, cruelty to animals smaller than themselves (possibly including that baby) is ALSO instinct. Hence dicks.

Source [http://theoatmeal.com/comics/cats_actually_kill]

 

[immortalfrieza]

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So a cat hunting prey is being a dick? No. Cats play with their prey instinctively as practice and to keep in shape so that when they do need to hunt for food they can actually pull it off. Those 50% that they kill but don't eat are so that they can actually catch the other 50% they do. That's also strawmanning me, I'm referring to how they act towards humans when I said that, and cats are certainly not aggressive towards humans for no reason.

 

[Bara_no_Hime]

So a cat hunting prey is being a dick? No. Cats play with their prey instinctively as practice and to keep in shape so that when they do need to hunt for food they can actually pull it off. Those 50% that they kill but don't eat are so that they can actually catch the other 50% they do. That's also strawmanning me, I'm referring to how they act towards humans when I said that, and cats are certainly not aggressive towards humans for no reason.

Cats are also willfully cruel to their pray, not just catching and killing, but torturing said prey. Did you actually read the link I included?

Anyway, that said, I love cats. I own one. She's right over there stalking a beetle that snuck in earlier.

However, I also recognize that cats are cruel, sadistic motherfuckers, and that abuse is not the only explanation for the events described by the OP.

I have a toddler (20 months old). My cat has scratched my kid before. Sometimes my kid deserved it. Sometimes my kid did not and my cat was just being an asshole. My cat got punished (a claw trimming and no post-trim treat) after the later.

You can love cats and recognize that they are assholes. That's part of their adorably evil charm.

 

[immortalfrieza]

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Didn't need to, I have seen said statistics before and as I said, for them it's a training regimen. Since even feral cats spend somewhere between 18-20 hours a day sleeping they have to get a workout somehow or they will lose the ability to get food.

Just because you don't know why your cat attacked your kids doesn't mean they don't have a reason. Maybe it's assuming that THIS time your kids are going to do something to deserve a scratching so your cat did a preemptive strike, maybe your kids have been messing with the cat when you haven't been seeing it, maybe it's as simple as the kid has been petting it for too long and the cat wanted it to stop or just wanted to get some sleep, maybe the cat decided it's playtime and decided the kids were the toys, who knows? All I do know for sure is that that it has a legitimate reason and it has nothing to do with just being an asshole, that is always the case.

The reason I love cats so much is because I recognize that they are never assholes to anyone, any aggression on their part is deserved.

 

[NuclearKangaroo]

and this lads and gents is why dogs>cats


dogs are mans best friend, they dont trap people in bedrooms, they bring you the newspaper, play fetch and ruin the carpet forever

Too bad the dogs that mauled babies didn't get the memo. Unless of course they ruin he carpet forever with baby blood.

Or the Pitbulls.
Or the Rottweilers.

Or any other violent dogs.

I'm sure if you told the parents of those dead babies, things will be all better! I mean, who can resist a tasty baby? Dip them in barbeque sauce and you got some baby back ribs right there.

oh boy, i knew i shouldve sent everyone in the forum the "im not being serious" memo, but now its too late, you brought dead babies to the table, and now nobody can stop looking at the pile of dead babies in the room

i hope you are happy twinkie

 

[immortalfrieza]

and this lads and gents is why dogs>cats


dogs are mans best friend, they dont trap people in bedrooms, they bring you the newspaper, play fetch and ruin the carpet forever

Too bad the dogs that mauled babies didn't get the memo. Unless of course they ruin he carpet forever with baby blood.

Or the Pitbulls.
Or the Rottweilers.

Or any other violent dogs.

I'm sure if you told the parents of those dead babies, things will be all better! I mean, who can resist a tasty baby? Dip them in barbeque sauce and you got some baby back ribs right there.

oh boy, i knew i shouldve sent everyone in the forum the "im not being serious" memo, but now its too late, you brought dead babies to the table, and now nobody can stop looking at the pile of dead babies in the room

i hope you are happy twinkie

I'm pro choice, everywhere I go I leave a pile of dead babies. Not exactly new.

They're delicious though, you should try them. The dogs have the right idea.

Except in red states, I can't go there. If I do, John Mccain will make me a dead baby.

(god, this is gonna go up on escapist.txt. I just know it. I am also being facetious.)

I feel like this is very relevant to this conversation:

 

[008Zulu_v1legacy]

22 POUNDS!!! What have they been feeding that thing? It's nearly twice the average weight of a cat that breed.

Lasagne.

It's a real catastrophe when things like this happen. No animal is purfect, least of all cats.

 

[Stu35]

maybe the cat decided it's playtime and decided the kids were the toys, who knows? All I do know for sure is that that it has a legitimate reason and it has nothing to do with just being an asshole, that is always the case.

... Can't tell if you're joking or not.

99% of the time, those two statements together would be blatantly intended humorously.

Reading the remainder of your posts in this thread though, I honestly can't tell.

It's hurting my brain.

 

[immortalfrieza]

maybe the cat decided it's playtime and decided the kids were the toys, who knows? All I do know for sure is that that it has a legitimate reason and it has nothing to do with just being an asshole, that is always the case.

... Can't tell if you're joking or not.

99% of the time, those two statements together would be blatantly intended humorously.

Reading the remainder of your posts in this thread though, I honestly can't tell.

It's hurting my brain.

100% serious. If you do something enticing or the cat just has a lot of energy at the time the cat could decide you look like a fun toy. In fact, the only reason my own 3 cats have ever scratched or bit me in their lives is because they got a little too rambunctious and decided by feet looked like a toy, or I wasn't paying attention and put the actual toy too close to me.

 

[Stu35]

maybe the cat decided it's playtime and decided the kids were the toys, who knows? All I do know for sure is that that it has a legitimate reason and it has nothing to do with just being an asshole, that is always the case.

... Can't tell if you're joking or not.

99% of the time, those two statements together would be blatantly intended humorously.

Reading the remainder of your posts in this thread though, I honestly can't tell.

It's hurting my brain.

100% serious. If you do something enticing or the cat just has a lot of energy at the time the cat could decide you look like a fun toy. In fact, the only reason my own 3 cats have ever scratched or bit me in their lives is because they got a little too rambunctious and decided by feet looked like a toy, or I wasn't paying attention and put the actual toy too close to me.

I see...

And you feel that the cat deciding that you're a fun toy doesn't make the cat an 'asshole'?

Because I had cats growing up, I loved them, they were awesome - cute, fun, fluffy, all that good stuff. They were still 'assholes'.

Because cats are 'assholes'. I'm not saying it's a bad thing, or that it's not an evolutionary thing, I'm simply saying that you can't turn around and say: "He's not being an 'asshole', he just thinks you're a toy!", because thinking you're a toy is what makes him an 'asshole'.

It doesn't make it a "legitimate" decision on the cats part. Anymore than the cat deciding to torture its prey to death for fun is a "legitimate" decision.

Savvy?

Also, you come across as a little bit crazy-cat-lady/man ish in your posts, and I genuinely can't tell if that's intended humorously or not.