Angry Cat Traps Family In Bedroom, Forces 911 Call

[Raggedstar]

I saw a picture of the cat's face today. Every article I've seen calls this cat a Himalayan and I can bet a large sum of cash that the cat is NOT a Himalayan. Ugh, it's stupid and it bugs me so much. He's just your typical black and white tuxedo moggie. Still could afford afford to lose a few though. If your domestic cat is 10 kg and not a Maine Coon or Ragdoll, your cat might be fat.

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Not to a T no, but as subtle as the reason might turn out to be, there's always a reason and one can probably prepare for it. If one can find the reason they can solve the problem and fix the bad behavior, it just might take some time and work. You can predict an animal's behavior if you know enough about an animal, it's just that the reason it's doing something might not be blatantly obvious, you might have to pay close attention.

I'll quote again to highlight something I did yesterday. Animals are unpredictable, and anyone who works with animals, big or small, will tell you the same thing. It's good to listen to an animal and see what can trigger a bad behaviour and to carefully analyze a situation when something happens, but unless they can tell us specifically what's making them upset, sometimes we'll never know and it may be impossible to peg it down without days/weeks/months to look at behaviour patterns, health check-ups (as some negative behaviour like aggression can be linked to neurological problems. See "rage syndrome" in dogs, a neurological condition most frequently seen in Cocker and Springer Spaniels that trigger fits of aggression), behaviour modification procedures, and whatnot. Even then it may be difficult and expensive. And then animals have personalities, and like with us, can be fluid and inconsistent. Their fuses can be long one day and short another. Something that bugs them one day may not in another. They're like us. Anyone who says they can always anticipate an animal's reaction is going to open themselves up for surprises. Prepare what you can (from history, breed, health, current mood, etc), but always keep in your mind that there could be a curve ball that you may not have ever been able to predict for better or worse. That's what people mean by when animals are unpredictable (especially if you're dealing with an animal that doesn't give traditional warning signs, like growls).

And to respond to another post, no, cats don't have poor eyesight in the day. Sight is a very crucial sense to them, day or night. In some ways it's even better than our's, just kitty vision is more notable with being awesome at night. In general cats are very sensory with hearing, smell, sight, and touch. There's a reason why cat muzzles block the eyes.

 

[crazygameguy4ever]

as funny as this story is.. maybe they should have called the guy from that show My Cat from Hell

 

[Bad Jim]

Meanwhile, on the other side of the world . . .

 

[immortalfrieza]

As I said pretty much from the start, do your research, pick up a book or 2 on cats, read everything you can find on the net about cats, and then come back and tell me I'm bullshitting you.

I'm the one who provided research. You did not. All you've offered is your personal opinion and a lot of hyperbole.

Nevermind. I'm done talking to the "crazy cat man" (to use your own words).

For the record, you and everybody else on this thread didn't provide the slightest bit of research, you and the other people on this thread have just said cats are dicks for no reason over and over again while ignoring people like me who actually do know what they're talking about.

 

[Adeptus Aspartem]

Nevermind. I'm done talking to the "crazy cat man" (to use your own words).

For the record, you and everybody else on this thread didn't provide the slightest bit of research, you and the other people on this thread have just said cats are dicks for no reason over and over again while ignoring people like me who actually do know what they're talking about.[/quote]

Just dropping by. Stop lying please. You're insulting everyones (including your owns) intelligence with your behavior in this thread.
There were links provided which you even denied with "Didn't need to read them" yourself.

And to your argumentation: All you say is "I'm right, because i'm a cat expert with nothing to prove i am and clearly you all haven't read ALL the books about cats so your statements are all irrelevant".
If you can tell us at that point how ANY discussion is going to happen in the first place feel free to offer a solution.

You didn't listen to what people wrote and are again just repeating:

you and the other people on this thread have just said cats are dicks for no reason over and over again

They explained what they meant, they didn't just repeat.

You on the other hand just stated that you're know what you're talking about. No data to back it up, no prove of any diploma or something alike that would show you're an expert on your field nor any other sources/links to provide additional information. Just

people like me who actually do know what they're talking about.

I gonna turn this upside down now: You've no clue about what you're talking. You're mumbling incoherrent nonsense about animal saints, while it's pretty well documented that several animals - which includes us too btw - are very well capable of being sadistic / cruel to other beings for their own enjoyment.
Trust me, i know what im talking about so stop ignoring me!

 

[A BigCup of Tea]

Holy shit that must of been some fucking cat to trap a whole family AND a dog in a room!! what was it a tiger??

 

[immortalfrieza]

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I would have to have actual arguments to argue against before I could refute them. All I'm getting is the equivalent of "cats are dicks for no reason because I said so!" That's not an argument. Also, I shouldn't even need to back what I say up, you can do that yourselves with any random Google search. Hell, here's one right now that took me about 2 seconds:
http://www.pawnation.com/2013/03/28/are-cats-evil-mean-or-vindictive-by-nature/

Why an I bothering to enlighten you people anyway? The very fact that you can even say this stuff proves that you know jack about cats at all.

 

[Lizmichi]

and this lads and gents is why dogs>cats


dogs are mans best friend, they dont trap people in bedrooms, they bring you the newspaper, play fetch and ruin the carpet forever

Yea I had a dog eat a couch once. A FUCKING COUCH. As well the rubber handle to a hammer, cowboy boots, and count less pillows. We put them up and he would find them. Thank god he's done with that phase. When I was a little kid when had a dog mom saved from an abusive home. Aggressive dogs kill, aggressive cats need to work at it to kill a human.

Cats > dogs

 

[jhoroz]

The comments in here make me weep for the human race. I own four cats and love them all dearly but if I see one of them attack an INFANT then you're damn right I'm going to do whatever it takes to get it away from the baby, up to and including a swift kick to the rear.

Cats are awesome but babies are more important.

This.

Honestly, what the fuck is wrong with you people? If a cat scratched my son, I wouldn't just kick it. I'd cave its fucking head in.

 

[NuclearKangaroo]

and this lads and gents is why dogs>cats


dogs are mans best friend, they dont trap people in bedrooms, they bring you the newspaper, play fetch and ruin the carpet forever

Yea I had a dog eat a couch once. A FUCKING COUCH. As well the rubber handle to a hammer, cowboy boots, and count less pillows. We put them up and he would find them. Thank god he's done with that phase. When I was a little kid when had a dog mom saved from an abusive home. Aggressive dogs kill, aggressive cats need to work at it to kill a human.

Cats > dogs

i was merely joking, but i still think much more highly of dogs than of cats


dogs are loyal and helpful, hell they even helped our ancestors hunt and stuff like that, cats have done... nothing really, just look cute and shit and dogs can be cute too

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damn i love dogs

 

[samaugsch]

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I would have to have actual arguments to argue against before I could refute them. All I'm getting is the equivalent of "cats are dicks for no reason because I said so!" That's not an argument. Also, I shouldn't even need to back what I say up, you can do that yourselves with any random Google search. Hell, here's one right now that took me about 2 seconds:
http://www.pawnation.com/2013/03/28/are-cats-evil-mean-or-vindictive-by-nature/

Why an I bothering to enlighten you people anyway? The very fact that you can even say this stuff proves that you know jack about cats at all.

The article you provided mentions that cats do things because they have different personalities. From my understanding, it's agreeing with both sides to an extent.

 

[Lizmichi]

and this lads and gents is why dogs>cats


dogs are mans best friend, they dont trap people in bedrooms, they bring you the newspaper, play fetch and ruin the carpet forever

Yea I had a dog eat a couch once. A FUCKING COUCH. As well the rubber handle to a hammer, cowboy boots, and count less pillows. We put them up and he would find them. Thank god he's done with that phase. When I was a little kid when had a dog mom saved from an abusive home. Aggressive dogs kill, aggressive cats need to work at it to kill a human.

Cats > dogs

i was merely joking, but i still think much more highly of dogs than of cats


dogs are loyal and helpful, hell they even helped our ancestors hunt and stuff like that, cats have done... nothing really, just look cute and shit and dogs can be cute too

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damn i love dogs

Oh I know you were joking and meh to the puppy. It's cute, but I love cats. They're not needy, and they don't beg. When a cat wants you it will come to you, at least with all the cats I've had.

 

[NuclearKangaroo]

and this lads and gents is why dogs>cats


dogs are mans best friend, they dont trap people in bedrooms, they bring you the newspaper, play fetch and ruin the carpet forever

Yea I had a dog eat a couch once. A FUCKING COUCH. As well the rubber handle to a hammer, cowboy boots, and count less pillows. We put them up and he would find them. Thank god he's done with that phase. When I was a little kid when had a dog mom saved from an abusive home. Aggressive dogs kill, aggressive cats need to work at it to kill a human.

Cats > dogs

i was merely joking, but i still think much more highly of dogs than of cats


dogs are loyal and helpful, hell they even helped our ancestors hunt and stuff like that, cats have done... nothing really, just look cute and shit and dogs can be cute too

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damn i love dogs

Oh I know you were joking and meh to the puppy. It's cute, but I love cats. They're not needy, and they don't beg. When a cat wants you it will come to you, at least with all the cats I've had.

but a dog will ALWAYS be there for you, a cat, maybe if it feels like it, not that it will do anything useful, i dont think cats can really perform any useful task

 

[Someone Depressing]

The animal should't be put down.

The morons that poorly housed it probably should, though.

I don't think putting down violent animals is wrong, but puting down violent animals that are a result of horrible care is definetely wrong.

 

[maxben]

That's a nice encompassing line that means absolutely squat, since "provoke" could be anything that we don't see as unreasonable.
It fits right in with the attitude that animals can do no harm and it's simply not true.

"Provoke" means plenty, and it's obvious what it means. It means hurt them in some way. If that's not plain enough, here:
1. Don't hit or attack them in any way.
2. Don't mess with their food while they're eating it.
3. Don't screw with their kids, especially when they're not around and don't trust you.
4. Don't just walk up and start petting an animal you've never met before. There's a good chance they will hurt you or try to run away.
5. Learn how to handle behavioral problems or don't have the animal.
6. Most important, make sure they aren't sick before you blame them for anything.

Animals have never done anything to anyone that those people didn't bring about. They are merely following their instincts and if their instincts tell them you are a threat you are going to get attacked.

Dude, all you are saying is that "animals can be dangerous because they are animals". I don't think anyone disagrees with you. They don't have a rich inner life allowing them to make too many decisions on the essence of morality and the permissibility of murder under a variety of contexts. Technically, though, I can make arguments that humans are the exact same by pulling from neuroscience, psychology, and determinist philosophy. Seriously, read what you wrote and the exact same things work for humans.

 

[Frankster]

I'm gonna wager it's not the first time that cat has been kicked.

For it to get so violent/agressive either it had a hell of a traumatic kittenhood before the family acquired it and/or the family are rotten pet owners who did not take good care of the cat and taught it to be that way. I mean ok yeh I've known moody cats but fuck I never thought a cat could be capable of a stunt like this xD

but a dog will ALWAYS be there for you, a cat, maybe if it feels like it, not that it will do anything useful, i dont think cats can really perform any useful task

Thats BS stereotyping cos you ain't met my cats and 2 of them are as loyal as ANY dog, heck even more loyal cos unlike a dog with short memory whose loyalty is easily given, my cats are loyal to me because they want to ^^ And I ain't even the one who feeds them!

As for useful task...Usefulness is in the eye of the beholder.

What can a dog do for me that is "useful"? Fetch a ball? Yeh great. Only "useful" thing a dog could do for me is be my mini bodyguard I guess but I'm not interested in that cos means I have to walk it and clean its mess and what not.

Meanwhile what do my cats do?

My black and white angora cat is the most adorable cuddly fluff ball I know, it actively seeks out cuddles and doesn't get tired of them. He is always there to welcome peeps and act as a soft toy, which is a use in itself.

My black cat by contrast is a miniature panther and a great hunting mistress. She has SAVED MY LIFE from spider attacks (ok bit of an exageration but I am an arachnophobe) and keeps house clean of creepy crawlies that I find gross. She is also the most "loyal" cat I know in that she loves to follow me everywhere and all I have to do to get her running to me is do a certain sound (kinda like with dogs eh?) and she drops whatever she is doing to come running.

Ill emphasize the "hunting spiders" bit again cos to me that is a lot more important then anything a dog could do.
Actually speaking of importance, dogs were important to human development due for their help in hunting+guarding.
Cats were important as civilization developed cos they protected against vermin, hence why its "good luck" to have a cat onboard a ship and not a dog for example

Soz if tone seems agressive, not my intention but wanted to debunk some of those BS cat stereotypes that people like to spout but yet I've found it to be absolutely false in reality.

 

[Brian Tams]

I just wanted to point out that its absolutely perfect that Andy's avatar is that of Cat Jesus.

 

[TallanKhan]

I had a number of thoughts when I read this story, all of which are jostling for poll position here so I am going to go ahead and list them:

First of all the fact that the guy's initial reaction was to kick the cat probably tells you enough about what happens to it on a regular basis to explain why it went all coo-coo for cocoa puffs. People like this shouldn't be allowed to own animals and only have themselves to blame for incidents like this.

Second, it was a damned house cat, even if this thing was some kind of mutant super cat and all of that extra weight was pure muscle, it was still just a big house cat. We have already established these people should be allowed to own animals but frankly, if a grown man couldn't protect his family from a house cat I question whether he should have been allowed to have a family.

Lastly, he wants to keep the cat?!?! The hell is wrong with this guy? He was so intimidated by this cat that he hid in a bedroom, he has an infant child in the house, how does he propose to protect it? And why is he allowed to make this decision, Animal Control were called in, surely they must recognise that leaving this cat in the home would be inappropriate?

 

[chinangel]

Angry Cat Traps Family In Bedroom, Forces 911 Call

The 22-pound Himalayan kept an entire family, including the dog, trapped in a bedroom until police responded to a desperate 911 call.

Lee Palmer of Portland, Oregon, has a wife, an infant son, a dog and a cat named Lux. And Lux, according to Palmer, has "a history of violence." Yesterday, the cat scratched his son's forehead, so Palmer kicked the cat - and the cat dropped the hammer, forcing the family, including the dog, to flee into the bedroom, from where Palmer called 911.

"I kicked the cat in the rear, and it has went off, over the edge, and we aren't safe around the cat," he told the 911 operator. "We're trapped in our bedroom. He won't let us out of our door."

After learning that Palmer was calling about a house cat and not a rogue man-eating tiger that had busted out of the local zoo, the operator excused herself to determine whether this was something the police should actually be sent to deal with. Told that it was, she got back on the line and assured the worried family that help was on the way, although she seemed to struggle for things to say while they waited for the rescuers to arrive.

When animal control finally showed up, the cat jumped onto the refrigerator but they were able to grab it and put it into a pet carrier. Nobody was hurt, including the baby, and despite Palmer's previous statement about the cat's violent nature he later claimed he'd "never seen anything like it" before. Amazingly, as of yesterday the fate of the cat still hadn't been settled. "We are debating what to do," he said. "We definitely want to keep [the cat] away from the baby and keep an eye on his behavior."

Please, kids. Please. Stay in school.

Source: WBTV.com [http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2014/03/aggravated_cat_is_subdued_by_p.html]


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Your avatar is not helping the situation. At all.

On topic, as a cat lover this is ridiculous.

 

[rheianna]

The cat only scratched the baby because the baby pulled its tail... Then the father went and kicked the cat... Considering these circumstances I'm on team cat.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/vicious-pet-cat-traps-oregon-couple-call-911-22854245