Anonymous Attacks North Korea

[mad825]

I'm baffled as to why we're just sitting around waiting for them to throw the first punch.

Shoot first and ask questions later? I wouldn't want you in charge. So, if this the cold-war you'd risk M.A.D and the genocide of several nations just because of a threat? Got balls my friend.

NK are out gunned, out manned and out nuked statistically. That said, NK are defensive not aggressive but they will use their munitions if provoked even if they are out numbered. Actions and ideas like you're expressing gives them reason into believing that what they are doing is right and therefore continue and reinforce their way of existence.

The cold-war was scientific discovery, not in the technical sense but into the psychology and sociology of every day life.

 

[WanderingFool]

Anonymous! Setting in motion events that will lead to the death of millions of innocent South Koreans!

...would someone remind me why people support these guys?

You... do realise that North Korea has about 5 computers in the whole fucking country... I doubt many N. Korean citizens even know about this, than alone actually saw the message.

And all five of those computers are in the hands of a megalomaniac with nuclear weapons who would view this as an act of war! =p

Somehow, if North Korea decides to fire a missile because of this, Im gonna have a hard time not laughing about it, even if it does do damage somewhere. just the thought of Someone going, "these people made a mockery of us on the internet, FIRE THE MISSILE!"... hell its funny thinking about it now...

 

[Yokillernick]

I'm baffled as to why we're just sitting around waiting for them to throw the first punch.

Shoot first and ask questions later? I wouldn't want you in charge. So, if this the cold-war you'd risk M.A.D and the genocide of several nations just because of a threat? Got balls my friend.

NK are out gunned, out manned and out nuked statistically. That said, NK are defensive not aggressive but they will use their munitions if provoked even if they are out numbered. Actions and ideas like you're expressing gives them reason into believing that what they are doing is right and therefore continue and reinforce their way of existence.

The cold-war was scientific discovery, not in the technical sense but into the psychology and sociology of every day life.

I'm terribly sorry but this just seems to go so well with what you just said and it also kind of explains NK's positions at the moment.


Jokes aside, I can't really take any of NK's threats seriously anymore. Not since they threatened to blow up the Sun.

 

[Abomination]

Somehow, if North Korea decides to fire a missile because of this, Im gonna have a hard time not laughing about it, even if it does do damage somewhere. just the thought of Someone going, "these people made a mockery of us on the internet, FIRE THE MISSILE!"... hell its funny thinking about it now...

It would be the best thing Anon could possibly have accomplished. They would have been the catalyst that led to the resolution of the "North Korean issue".

I want Anon to keep this up just without giving the NKs a means of turning it into propaganda. Though I fear it will take more than a DDos attack to really have a proper effect. Perhaps changing a video recording to something different half way through discrediting Kim that is being broadcast/displayed to a large group of people? But that's more along the lines of espionage than what Anon usually does.

 

[lacktheknack]

I'm sure this will wake the whole government of NK up and not add to tensions one little bit.

Huh, and to think I used to like what these guys did... That was until I realized they're idiots and are making so many things worse. Now there's this. Great, more reason to piss North Korea off >.> The nuclear threats thing is already iffy enough as it is, do we need Anons throwing their hat into the ring?

Anonymous, please, please, please don't trigger a global thermonuclear war!

Oh no! North Korean is going to initiate a nuclear strike against the internet!

Being an ultimately decentralized collective, I can't say I support everything Anon does, but if the group has a overall point, it's to stir the pot a bit; get people talking, like we are now, & they tend to succeed at that.

These forums rant & rave if DRM boots them from a game server, but start ringing their hands any time people claiming the title of Anonymous start an open act of protest.

You imply NK gives a damn about the point themselves.

All they know is that a group, likely American, has attacked them. As the others mentioned, MAYBE THIS IS ACTUALLY A BAD THING.

 

[Cavouku]

I feel like whichever member ended up writing this was... self elected, to say the least. While I've been around proclaimed Anons (physically, during Scientology protests. Not bad people), I can't begin to explain their structure, seeing as how they purportedly have none.

Regardless of the... I'm sorry but- abysmal message, the general Anon tactic of swiping information was rather intriguing. I'm not sure what can be done with it, exactly, but... hmm...

Still, I guess I would rather Anon had some form of preventing retaliation before doing something quite like this. Or at least, had someone writ e a better note. What about the person who wrote the anti-Scientology videos? Not pulitzer winning, but effective, and rather chilling in the write context.

This was not what I felt to be a really strong effort by the group that was able to so thoroughly shame HB Gary, fluster the Cha-church of $cientology, and help put a few criminals behind bars, to top it off. However, how strong of an effort could Anon do, and would it be "too much"? As it stands, I don't think this will be enough to worry about, but also not enough to do much.

 

[Lono Shrugged]

Please everyone stop saying "North Korea" and just say "North Korea's stupid childish leadership" The population is a beaten down wreck and have as much to do with all this as the average levelheaded American people did with the patriot act and war on terror.

On one hand it's nice to see a little bit of egg on the leaderships face. But on the other hand some poor fucker probably got shot over this.

 

[Chessrook44]

The more people do this, or laugh at North Korea or make jokes about them... the more I wonder just how much they want to tempt fate.

I absolutely agree. The arrogance in some of these posts is mindblowing, hoping war does start so that we can have "chaos because it's fun!" and because "with our combined alies they have no chance!" and also "why don't we just attack them first?" is actually unnerving. Those were actual things people have said in this thread, paraphrased. I think people are under the impression that war is fun, and totally justifiable if the enemy is different from them. I don't support North Korea, but this reaction is pathetic, and they seem to forget its a real place with real people, and invading just because is not a good reason.

I know I'm being a bit serious, but I'm really disappointed with some people. I would blame the "America, F*** yeah!" craze, but it's not just the US that thinks this about foreign nations. And it is the Internet, after all - people are always arrogant.

I personally feel more about how I've seen people going "Aww, the little kid is blowing his mouth off again" and stuff like that. Maybe I watch too much media but come on, this just feels like schoolyard bullying before the kid buys a gun and goes on a rampage.

Maybe I'm stretching the metaphor a bit there but still... come on people.

 

[lacktheknack]

The North Korean army has warned the U.S. that it has been given official clearance to launch a nuclear strike against it, saying that "the moment of explosion is approaching fast" and that war could break out "today or tomorrow."

MAYBE WE SHOULD PAY ATTENTION TO THIS.

North Korea doesn't have a missile that is able to strike anywhere near the US Mainland. And there are anti-missile batteries stationed in Guam, Japan and South Korea in case anything does happen.

Regardless, it's a much bigger story than "Anon Vandalized A Thing" when a country is literally on the brink of declaring war on the USA.

They arent on the brink of doing anything. Do a little research for gods sake.

Their military is PATHETIC compared to the forces that are arrayed against it.

Their missile technology is decades behind the countermeasures ready to be brought to bear against them.

They KNOW that if they take one step along the path of war that they would be slapped into oblivion in the same way you might slap an ant crawling on your arm.

The only reason they make statements like the one you are shaking and whimpering over is so that they can gain international acceptance. "look at us, we are willing to go toe to toe with the most deadly military in the world. No really we are! We can do it! Please consider us a legitimate threat and deal with us on equal footing! ...Please?"

I've done my research.

The state of their military is more or less irrelevant. I say this, because they're restarting a nuclear facility that produces bomb-usable plutonium after the US dropped two fake bombs on them a week or so ago.

That's a response only an insane dictator gives.

One who's insane enough to start a war they cannot win.

And while most other countries would be safe if they started chucking nukes, I can't say I'm anything resembling happy that North Korea is going to be "wiped". There's people there who need help, you know... the kind of help that bombs don't give.

 

[Abomination]

There's people there who need help, you know... the kind of help that bombs don't give.

And there's no justification for foreign intervention at this present time. People want NK to throw the first stone so the powers that be are justified in moving in there and shutting the place down permanently.

Any aid that goes to North Korea is just temporary relief that doesn't solve the serious underlying problem - corrupt leadership and oppression. The only way to 'solve' North Korea is by military intervention and removing the current administration.

It?s not as though there?s even a question as to who would take over after. There?s this neighboring nation with a very similar name, incredibly wealthy and productive with very high standard of living that is more than willing - for humanitarian reasons alone ? to assume administration. Every piece of the puzzle is in place apart from the justification to actually move in with military force.

 

[Abomination]

Throwing rocks at the hornet's nest again, eh Anonymous?
Not sure what defacing their social networks will accomplish...

Incidentally: If North Korea fires one nuke, anywhere, whether it hits or not, North Korea will cease to exist within the year.

Within the year? Try within the week! The Minuteman ICBM can deliver three nukes with one launch to three different targets! The Russian R-36 can deliver TEN in one launch {Each with between 550 to 750 kiloton yields, For comparison the bomb dropped on Hiroshima had a yield of only 16 kilotons!) Considering that the recent UN sanctions passed unopposed I seriously doubt that the DPRK will be able to find any allies if it starts an actual war!

All it would take is about three launches at most and possibly only one well-placed launch to force the DPRK back to the negotiating table

Woah woah woah... why would the world respond with a nuclear attack? There would be no need to. Certainly the world could just flatten that area entirely but if that was something we were willing to do it would have been done by now. We still care about the unfortunate innocents of the nation who are held in what is essentially serfdom.

 

[Siege_TF]

I'm baffled as to why we're just sitting around waiting for them to throw the first punch.

I would guess because the people in the know are aware that there is no first punch, and this war they keep going on about is just a propaganda tool to stop the people from revolting; there is no food, electricity, etc because they are at war.

 

[lacktheknack]

The North Korean army has warned the U.S. that it has been given official clearance to launch a nuclear strike against it, saying that "the moment of explosion is approaching fast" and that war could break out "today or tomorrow."

MAYBE WE SHOULD PAY ATTENTION TO THIS.

North Korea doesn't have a missile that is able to strike anywhere near the US Mainland. And there are anti-missile batteries stationed in Guam, Japan and South Korea in case anything does happen.

Regardless, it's a much bigger story than "Anon Vandalized A Thing" when a country is literally on the brink of declaring war on the USA.

They arent on the brink of doing anything. Do a little research for gods sake.

Their military is PATHETIC compared to the forces that are arrayed against it.

Their missile technology is decades behind the countermeasures ready to be brought to bear against them.

They KNOW that if they take one step along the path of war that they would be slapped into oblivion in the same way you might slap an ant crawling on your arm.

The only reason they make statements like the one you are shaking and whimpering over is so that they can gain international acceptance. "look at us, we are willing to go toe to toe with the most deadly military in the world. No really we are! We can do it! Please consider us a legitimate threat and deal with us on equal footing! ...Please?"

I've done my research.

The state of their military is more or less irrelevant. I say this, because they're restarting a nuclear facility that produces bomb-usable plutonium after the US dropped two fake bombs on them a week or so ago.

That's a response only an insane dictator gives.

One who's insane enough to start a war they cannot win.

And while most other countries would be safe if they started chucking nukes, I can't say I'm anything resembling happy that North Korea is going to be "wiped". There's people there who need help, you know... the kind of help that bombs don't give.

That nuclear facility that they restarted? Yeah that wont be turning out anything useful for right around 4 to 5 years from now according to most experts.

So its not really an insane tactic, insane people tend not to plan for years and years in advance. It is just one more media grabbing plow that seems to have caught attention of folk who get all antsy.

Besides, kill a few thousand NK troops, help millions... I personally figure killing several thousand would be better than leaving tens of millions under that regime. Then again I tend not to support tender footing around while people suffer over the long haul.

Again, it's not about what the factory will put out... it's about what it represents.

And running in guns blazing tends to be a thing that leads to other, worse things. You call it "tender-footing", I call it "not being idiots". Because all we need right now is to upset NK's allies, right?

Because whether they strike first or not, other countries will never stop looking for reasons to hate the USA.

 

[Not G. Ivingname]

I thought most of North Korea's internet (the tiny, tiny amount they have) is there own server that is completely severed from the world wide one.

 

[N3squ1ck]

When I witness asshole-to-asshole combat, I hope both sides can lose equally. Like with World War II, I'm tempted to go by who has the lesser body count, which means I'd root for Anonymous. ...Then again, when it came down to Communist Russia and Nazi Germany, I'd be rooting for the Germans. Oh well.

I'm sorry but what?
Why?
Nazi Germany was the worst thing ever, how could one ever support that? Even compared to Soviet Russia?

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Well, I don't really think this will help resolving this situation but also I don't think that this seriously is going to kick off the war

 

[Doom972]

I don't think that they depend on their computers all that much. You need more than a bunch of self-important script kiddies to affect that regime.

 

[Gatx]

Anonymous! Setting in motion events that will lead to the death of millions of innocent South Koreans!

...would someone remind me why people support these guys?

You... do realise that North Korea has about 5 computers in the whole fucking country... I doubt many N. Korean citizens even know about this, than alone actually saw the message.

It's not the average citizens that'll care, it's how the people in power in N. Korea (who might possibly own one of those 5 computers) might react to this provocation.

 

[Alchemist08]

Heh, wow. People really think Anon's actions are going to be a tipping point, or have any effect at all in this situation? Granted NK is lead by a group of insane little assholes, but I mean come on. Anon threatening NK is about as noteworthy as Nk threatening the US. It's not. It is in fact as others have mention sword-rattling/dick waving. If the folks in charge of North Korea are crazy enough to actually launch a suicidal attack, they will find a reason to do so no matter what we do. So why bother humoring them by getting upset over this eh? My advice like always is to chill out.

 

[Patrick Buck]

Funny, but jesus christ, please stop poking the north Korean bear. Soon enough they're going to flip like a well-done pancake, let's not hurry that shit along. :/

 

[Sofus]

Fuck north korea. Let's just get it over with and either kill kim or simply launch all our nukes at their pathetic third world country.