Under different circumstances I wouldn't mind... but with the threats of nukes... that really isn't helping...
Anonymous Attacks North Korea
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Mmm, but you can be sure that before they go they're going to sling nukes in every which direction. Peacefully dealing with them seems the best way.LifeCharacter said:
Anonymous is really in the right here. They're simply killing off the Propaganda machine within North Korea in an effort for members of North Korea and its citizens to realize just how piss poor their technology is in an attempt to incite rebellion within North Korea while simultaneously weakening resolve within the ranks. Anonymous can now also use the passwords they've retrieved in order to issue propaganda of their own; reveal the state of the rest of the world, the follies of the North Korean dictatorship system, and demonstrate just how silly the idea of going to war with even one first world nation would be.
We have more than ample defenses to mitigate any North Korean attack, so Anonymous may be the only ones that can seek out a somewhat peaceful resolution for all involved, with the exception of possibly the citizens of North Korea, as an insurgency will always have its casualties.
We have more than ample defenses to mitigate any North Korean attack, so Anonymous may be the only ones that can seek out a somewhat peaceful resolution for all involved, with the exception of possibly the citizens of North Korea, as an insurgency will always have its casualties.
I think the real problem here is not the might of the North Korean army. If they attack and they're subsequently crushed in a year or a month or a day, that would be "great" for many people. But we should not forget that many people could die and any loss of life, no matter the numbers, is a horrible thing.
So even if they launched a nuke at South Korea and killed just one person... well, that's one too many dead.
So even if they launched a nuke at South Korea and killed just one person... well, that's one too many dead.
Oh that pic of Kim Jong Un as Pigsy is hilarious, would love a poster version. Seriously if there is one regime that deserves to have the piss taken out of it its North Korea.
That jumped up little shit of a dictator has been swinging his dick too much of late, maybe this will help show him just how much of a bad joke the rest of the world considers him.
That jumped up little shit of a dictator has been swinging his dick too much of late, maybe this will help show him just how much of a bad joke the rest of the world considers him.
Yep, poking the bear and giving the guy who's running loose with reality a reason to launch a weapon of massive destruction isnt a terrible idea in anyway. BUt hwat does anon care, they're above things such as law and reason and sense.
Seriously though I dont know where they get off saying they're the 99% when they have more than enough power to cripple people, make life miserable, and generally censor the internet to their desire just like the US Gov. and DPRK's Gov. That's hardly the 99%. Sure their members maybe part of the 99%, but i bet some of their members are also some of the low 1% or very very upper edges of the 99%. And the group itself is anyhting but the 99%
Seriously though I dont know where they get off saying they're the 99% when they have more than enough power to cripple people, make life miserable, and generally censor the internet to their desire just like the US Gov. and DPRK's Gov. That's hardly the 99%. Sure their members maybe part of the 99%, but i bet some of their members are also some of the low 1% or very very upper edges of the 99%. And the group itself is anyhting but the 99%
Here we have Anonymous show they have no fucking clue what they are doing, despite all their skill with computers. Yes lets piss off the insane nuclear armed nation even more, its not like they are erratic to the point of insanity.
But the call to rise up is what gets me, assuming any North Koreans saw this (and they almost certainly didn't since this is propaganda for external consumption, with any who did see it being so few it doesn't matter) do they really think they are going to start an uprising because of bunch of people halfway around the world and behind keyboards, utterly unable to affect their situation said to do so and that they would have their back?
Anonymous could fuck up my life pretty hard, but they can't really touch North Korea.
Kinda moot point anyway since the site they attacked was based in China. They haven't actually done anything to anyone in North Korea.
We shouldn't want to fight North Korea, thats not a path with a bright future for anyone involved, least of all the people of the Koreas.
But the call to rise up is what gets me, assuming any North Koreans saw this (and they almost certainly didn't since this is propaganda for external consumption, with any who did see it being so few it doesn't matter) do they really think they are going to start an uprising because of bunch of people halfway around the world and behind keyboards, utterly unable to affect their situation said to do so and that they would have their back?
Anonymous could fuck up my life pretty hard, but they can't really touch North Korea.
Not for the average person no. I have heard that supposedly they are getting more connections in more areas, but when they can kill you for having a cell phone that calls outside the nation I doubt that means anything.Genocidicles said:
Kinda moot point anyway since the site they attacked was based in China. They haven't actually done anything to anyone in North Korea.
Because they may or may not do something, if you attack first they will certainly do something and at this stage that will be causing a whole lot of death and destruction because NK said some stuff that people didn't like. Thats sure to make South Korea and Japan, nations who are entirely in range of the Norths missiles, less that pleased shall we say.Mumorpuger said:
We shouldn't want to fight North Korea, thats not a path with a bright future for anyone involved, least of all the people of the Koreas.
America would destroy North Korea. They have:lacktheknack said:
1. the biggest military budget in the world.
2. the biggest gun:citizen ratio in the world
3. crazy nationalists in power and stupid red necks
I'm not a fan of American politics or culture because of this, why would anyone attack them?
I seriously would support any military action to take out the government in North Korea, just to liberate the millions dying under the regime.
For shits and gigs it should be China who does it. Imagine, your only possible friend in the world coming into your house and stabbing you in the back to claim glory of your puny body.
For shits and gigs it should be China who does it. Imagine, your only possible friend in the world coming into your house and stabbing you in the back to claim glory of your puny body.
I think it's more that "the new guy in charge" has to "prove he's worthy of his father's name" lest an unfortunate accident befall him; and that basically means giving the hardline military leadership free lease to stir up shit. My personal opinion? Kim Jong Un isn't exactly an ace of spades, but more like a seven of clubs if we talk the card-styled wanted lists.Desert Punk said:
Nuking North Korea? Yeah I'm pretty sure that South Korea, Japan, China and Russia would be overjoyed to have to deal with the fallout that gets swept their way by the winds. Radioactivity and irradiated soil don't care about national borders.doggie015 said:
That friendship is all but done. China has told them repeatedly to calm the fuck down. The lastest batch of sanctions went unopposed in UNSC, with both Russia and China voting in favor. And while Russia has up to this point tried the "everyone calm down and avoid escalation" rhetoric, their last response was "North Korea's continuos defiance to the UN resolution is nothing short of appalling".JokerboyJordan said:
Maybe the bee is hoping you're allergic...Benpasko said:
Anyway.
If DRPK tries to mobilize, their infrastructure is liable to implode within hours. But in that time, they can still shell the fuck out of whatever is in range of their artillery, and it doesn't matter that artillery is outdated by mothern standards, those things still hurt, those things still kill.
History loves irony. It's also full of examples of just what happens whenever people go "Let's just blast them, it's going to be a quick and easy war, and we'll make it home in time for dinner."
Lot of misplaced faith in the west/USA'a military capabilities in this thread, cuba , korea, vietnam i know they get spun a lot but if were honest not exactly victories were they? were a month off the 10 year anniversary of the victory in iraq according to Bush but last i heard the body counts still going up daily. And the Afghan war....
OK the DPRK is backwards in a lot of ways , but they have a 5 million reservists with 3-5 years military training more than most US army does now. they have the largest fleets of subs in the world , the most special forces of any nation. they may have old jets but they do have 1700 of them. They must have at least 1000 computers for 1000 cyber warfare specialists the military has. they arent constrained by any treaties and use those blinding lazers the chinese developed that got outlawed. they do have EMP bombs gps scramblers a fuck tun load of heavy artillery and tanks.
sure they may not have a delivery method for their nukes, but of course they might its not like the UN inspectors get to go in there and we dont exactly have a good accounting of where all the old soviet stock piles went either, we do know for a fact though that they do possess a large stockpile of both chemical and bio weapons. did they get a batch of small pox off the old soviet regime? want to find out the damage a vial of that will do in a modern metropolitan city? or a weaponised Ebola strain
The very simple reason we don't go in and remove the regime is simply because we can't , the nuclear option? well apart from the hopefully obvious moral problem of wiping out a country to get rid of a regime , get yourself a map of the area, your going to do a lot of damage to china and japan a part of russia , 3 countries you probably dont want to piss off in a nuke throwing competition.
OK the DPRK is backwards in a lot of ways , but they have a 5 million reservists with 3-5 years military training more than most US army does now. they have the largest fleets of subs in the world , the most special forces of any nation. they may have old jets but they do have 1700 of them. They must have at least 1000 computers for 1000 cyber warfare specialists the military has. they arent constrained by any treaties and use those blinding lazers the chinese developed that got outlawed. they do have EMP bombs gps scramblers a fuck tun load of heavy artillery and tanks.
sure they may not have a delivery method for their nukes, but of course they might its not like the UN inspectors get to go in there and we dont exactly have a good accounting of where all the old soviet stock piles went either, we do know for a fact though that they do possess a large stockpile of both chemical and bio weapons. did they get a batch of small pox off the old soviet regime? want to find out the damage a vial of that will do in a modern metropolitan city? or a weaponised Ebola strain
The very simple reason we don't go in and remove the regime is simply because we can't , the nuclear option? well apart from the hopefully obvious moral problem of wiping out a country to get rid of a regime , get yourself a map of the area, your going to do a lot of damage to china and japan a part of russia , 3 countries you probably dont want to piss off in a nuke throwing competition.
Not all of them. Just 30 or so.Genocidicles said:
But seriously, internet access is pretty restricted in North Korea, and it's not internet access as we know it.
I know it's impossible from an engineering standpoint, but I just got the image in my head of Anonymous accidentally gaining the controls to an entire nuclear arsenal out of this. The confusion over what happened and what they should do with it seems like it would be hilarious, although what would happen after they figured out what they wanted to do would be decidedly not.Darks63 said:
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On an unrelated note, I wonder if all this means there are North Korean Anonymous members?
Somehow, if N. Korea does fire its nukes, im sure people wont give a shit about Anon or anything they do for months afterwards, maybe years if N. Korea actually hit something and kills thousands of people.Darks63 said:
Nope. Anonymous will not receive any praise from me for this action. They are a loose cannon that simply does whatever they want, to whomever they want, for whatever reason they want. They do not speak for the people, they do not represent the people, and they do not fight for the people because they take no input from the people. They hold no consistency of values, morales, or ethics other than whatever strikes their whims. They exercise poor judgement in their actions in how they are accepting of innocents as collateral damage for their so-called crusades. They claim freedom of speech while denying to others. No, I will never see them as heroes in any way, shape, or form, and I will not cheer them in this action. They are simply muddying the waters and potentially provoking an already unstable government to rash action.
Yeah, I wouldn't really worry. Our defense systems are so airtight, they can't really touch us. Hell, we wouldn't even have to retaliate if they did. We could just sit here and watch, bemused, as they jump up and down angrily and yell at us, or send more missiles. Either one would be just as effective.
Bullshit.
Here's how it actually went down:
*On a random 4chan forum somewhere*
Anonymous Person 1: Oh guys, check it out: My buddies and I just did some amazing shit.
Anon 2: Oh it was great, we totally got into North Korea's servers and made Kim look like a pig.
Anon 3: Oh hey! We should put Mickey Mouse on his chest. Wait, let me go fix that real quick...
Anon 2: Hahaha that's funny as hell.
Random Asshole: Yeah! And we should totally claim this as an act of Anonymous and declare that we'll help free NK.
Anon 2: What? That's dumb. Who are you? That's not funny at all...
Anon 1: Dude, he's an idiot. Don't even talk to this one, he thinks he's a hardcore hacktivist or something.
Random Asshat: There, sent, I wrote up this really eloquent speech in, like, 5 minutes. We're going to save the world.
Anon 3: I'm back... had to put it on his stomach instead. What did I miss?
Anon 2: This dunce is sending messages to the press pretending to be us.
Anon 3: Again? Dammit RA, knock it off, that stopped being funny back in the 60s.
Random Ass: Viva La Resistance.
Anon 1: That's it, I'm done with /b/
Anon 1: This place sucks.
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I really wish you'd stop calling that random idiot "Anonymous" just because HE'S the one sending unfunny nonsense to the press.
Here's how it actually went down:
*On a random 4chan forum somewhere*
Anonymous Person 1: Oh guys, check it out: My buddies and I just did some amazing shit.
Anon 2: Oh it was great, we totally got into North Korea's servers and made Kim look like a pig.
Anon 3: Oh hey! We should put Mickey Mouse on his chest. Wait, let me go fix that real quick...
Anon 2: Hahaha that's funny as hell.
Random Asshole: Yeah! And we should totally claim this as an act of Anonymous and declare that we'll help free NK.
Anon 2: What? That's dumb. Who are you? That's not funny at all...
Anon 1: Dude, he's an idiot. Don't even talk to this one, he thinks he's a hardcore hacktivist or something.
Random Asshat: There, sent, I wrote up this really eloquent speech in, like, 5 minutes. We're going to save the world.
Anon 3: I'm back... had to put it on his stomach instead. What did I miss?
Anon 2: This dunce is sending messages to the press pretending to be us.
Anon 3: Again? Dammit RA, knock it off, that stopped being funny back in the 60s.
Random Ass: Viva La Resistance.
Anon 1: That's it, I'm done with /b/
Anon 1: This place sucks.
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I really wish you'd stop calling that random idiot "Anonymous" just because HE'S the one sending unfunny nonsense to the press.