Anonymous Attacks North Korea

[Zetatrain]

I'm baffled as to why we're just sitting around waiting for them to throw the first punch.

Well what do you propose?

Anything short of full scale nuclear strike on North Korea will just result in them launching their nukes and killing millions of people. Even if the US could intercept all their missiles I doubt the US is in any hurry to charge into North Korea especially since this would most likely drag China into it.

 

[Cpu46]

I'm baffled as to why we're just sitting around waiting for them to throw the first punch.

Cause they won't.

The moment they even look like they are going to legitimately fire nukes or invade South Korea their allies will revoke their support. North Korea won't do anything militaristic without the support of their larger allies. They simply don't have the resources to sustain any military action without it.
While it is true that they could hold Japan, Guam, or South Korea hostage with threats of military or nuclear assault the reaction against them would probably consist of most of the major world powers. Even withholding nuclear arms the combined retaliation strike would absolutely cripple the country if not destroying it outright.

 

[Zetatrain]

I'm baffled as to why we're just sitting around waiting for them to throw the first punch.

Well what do you propose?

Anything short of full scale nuclear strike on North Korea will just result in them launching their nukes and killing millions of people. Even if the US could intercept all their missiles I doubt the US is in any hurry to charge into North Korea especially since this would most likely drag China into it.

China wouldnt give two shits. They know what side of their bread is buttered and they are not going to send their economy into a downward spiral just to help a little isolationist nation that isnt even one of their official allies.

North Korea has no official allies, they just have 'strong ties' with China, and formerly Russia

Actually, I'm pretty sure China doesn't want to see NK collapse because it would lead to a massive influx of refugees, something China definitely doesn't want happening given their already massive population. I'm highly doubt China would wage full scale war, but it think an invasion of NK by the US would cause the two to butt heads in a way that goes beyond political rhetoric.

Even if we eliminate China from the equation I doubt the US or any other country wants to deal with the aftermath of a second(or third if you want to get technical)Korean War.

 

[SteewpidZombie]

Oh we're off to troll the wizard, the wonderful wizard of N.Korea. Because, because, because! All of the horrible things he does!

 

[Zetatrain]

I'm baffled as to why we're just sitting around waiting for them to throw the first punch.

Well what do you propose?

Anything short of full scale nuclear strike on North Korea will just result in them launching their nukes and killing millions of people. Even if the US could intercept all their missiles I doubt the US is in any hurry to charge into North Korea especially since this would most likely drag China into it.

China wouldnt give two shits. They know what side of their bread is buttered and they are not going to send their economy into a downward spiral just to help a little isolationist nation that isnt even one of their official allies.

North Korea has no official allies, they just have 'strong ties' with China, and formerly Russia

Actually, I'm pretty sure China doesn't want to see NK collapse because it would a massive influx of refugees, something China definitely doesn't want happening given their already massive population. I'm highly doubt China would wage full scale war, but it think an invasion of NK by the US would cause the two to butt heads in a way that goes beyond political rhetoric.

Even if we eliminate China from the equation I doubt the US or any other country wants to deal with the aftermath of a second(or third if you want to get technical)Korean War.

Well, south Korea would be happy to pick up the pieces in the aftermath, they really want their northern brothers and sisters to have a good quality of life that isn't controlled by crackpot dictators.

Ah, that is true, can't believe I didn't think of that. However, another thing to consider is that generally speaking preemptive strikes are frowned upon within the international community. Plus lets not forget that even if NK doesn't have a way to deliver/launch its nukes they can still set them off. It would basically be COD 4 in NK.

 

[Strazdas]

North Korea has computers advanced enough to connect to the internet?!

Even better question: They can be accessed from outside of North Korea?

actually they even have office of national statistics website.
Sure it takes 5 minutes to loadn and the data is so inconsistent that its pointless for anything but a joke, but they have a official website.

 

[Jack Nief]

It's all fun and games until someone gets killed. Which, in this case, is likely to be some poor North Korean citizens who had nothing at all to do with this.

 

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

How can people have a low or high opinion of Anonymous? Any prick with some hacking skills can hack someone and claim that it was an Anonymous attack. That's what being anonymous means. It's not an organization. You don't apply for a membership. You just do stuff and claim that Anonymous did it.

 

[bluegate]

Meanwhile in North Korea innocent people are being blamed for this and being executed for treason or whatever name they slap op these sort of things.

Someone, somewhere, will pay for this little prank, whether it be just or not...

 

[mad825]

I'm terribly sorry but this just seems to go so well with what you just said and it also kind of explains NK's positions at the moment.

You're comparing what I said to COD?

To iterate what I said in a simplified way; Nobody wants a war. The U.S tried to invade NK during the 1950s which also NK never officially declared peace therefore they've stayed in a state of war. Like a victim of a bully, all it takes is one final straw to erupt.

 

[Zeckt]

I'm actually quite scared that one day I will log on to the news and find out South Korea got bombed and suffered massive civilian casualties. Please let's just hope that never happens.

 

[Lightknight]

Because of just war theory. There's nothing they can do that will make it through "Star Wars" or whatever our missle defense system in the pacific is called nowadays and once we deflect an attack we can move in with the support of pretty much everyone.

Maybe we also don't want to invade North Korea. Do they even have any oil?

Touche.

No, but they have unicorns!

Ah, then there's motivation!

just war theory.

Do you really think the U.S. gives a single shit about that? We didn't have a problem preemptive striking the shit out of Iraq.

Also, I think there's a lot less controversy even if we attacked first. China is supposedly their ally and they've moved troops to the border, and I don't think they're going to be supporting North Korea. They are the most destabilizing influence in Asia and no one likes that. China particularly doesn't like the threats against the U.S. After all, we're essentially economically codependent.

The Iraq War was an interesting one. Some very powerful people forced that action and we lost a lot of cred in doing so. But I made two points in that post, not just "Just War Theory". The other point: "Maybe we also don't want to invade North Korea. Do they even have any oil?" is regarding the understanding that the North Korean nation doesn't really have anything we don't already have in spades. That backhanded comment I made about them not having oil was to imply that any possible second motivation (greed/longstanding rivalry/etc) isn't there either specifically like there was in Iraq. So I certainly wasn't being forgetful there.

But yes, the US does care about how the international community views us. Beating the crap out of such a weak nation for posing (and that is what they're doing, they cannot harm us as far as we can tell) would be the equivalent of international bullying without them striking or trying to strike first. This is why the US tried to claim that Iraq had all kinds of dangerous weapons so that they looked like a major threat and then once we moved in it was too late. Someone in power just really wanted to kick their ass in my opinion and that person has US blood and debt on their hands, not to mention Iraqi blood.

 

[Yokillernick]

I'm terribly sorry but this just seems to go so well with what you just said and it also kind of explains NK's positions at the moment.

You're comparing what I said to COD?

To iterate what I said in a simplified way; Nobody wants a war. The U.S tried to invade NK during the 1950s which also NK never officially declared peace therefore they've stayed in a state of war. Like a victim of a bully, all it takes is one final straw to erupt.

I'm not comparing what you said to CoD, God no! I'm just pointing out that part of what you said is dead similar to the video that's all.

 

[Jeno.K]

Now if they would only reveal the locations of the cyberwarfare cells in China and the list of all North Korean operatives in South Korea...