Anonymous killing PSN

[moopig66]

Alright, as a nerd i once supported Anonymous , but crashing PSN is going way to far. Im sorry, i hate you all now. And calling people who are now angry about it fat and lazy, not a good idea. I spent 60$ per game to PLAY IT you little twats! Here's their quote

"Take a break from online gaming for a while.....it will help your skills, your health, and your emotional levels, which by the way are a bit out of order if they are being shackled by the PSN being down. We have no qualms about our actions, even though it may affect fellow anonymous or supporters... we hope they understand the bigger picture."

Do you agree with them?

 

[AgentNein]

Didn't realize that they confirmed involvement with this whole thing. Hrmph. Haven't been playing much online lately, mostly use my psn for the netflix and hulu+. Yes this whole faux "for your own good" attitude annoys me a bit. Long day of work I'd like to watch a fucking episode of Doctor Who or two jerky jerks. But what are you going to do? Not much TO do really.

 

[Bobbity]

They came out and said that they didn't do it, so the people that posted that message were probably acting on their own.

Even so, that's a somewhat pretentious message to send, considering that they're likely in that very position. You might be over-reacting a little though. Whoever crashed the PSN is a complete fuck, but you're responding more than a little bit badly to their words.

 

[CrazyCapnMorgan]

Hmm, very odd considering the other thread that addressed the same thing said otherwise. Would you, by chance, OP have any sources, besides your word? Because...

Anonymous on PSN Outage: "For Once We Didn't Do It"

Online "hacktivist" group Anonymous has denied any coordinated involvement in the collapse of the PlayStation Network.

Yesterday - or slightly before yesterday, to be precise - Sony's PlayStation Network for a day or more [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/109448-PSN-Down-Worldwide-Is-Anonymous-to-Blame], and Sony EU PSN manager James Gallagher suggested that an attack by outsiders - such as the shadowy loose internet coalition Anonymous.

While this wouldn't be the first time Anonymous had gone after Sony [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/109056-Anonymous-Halts-Sony-Attacks-Affecting-PSN-Users] for its involvement in the trials of George "GeoHot" Hotz and other PS3 jailbreakers, this time it says Sony is pointing the fingers in the wrong direction.

"While it could be the case that other Anons are acting by themselves," reads a statement [http://anonnews.org/?p=press&a=item&i=848] on the Anonymous news site, "AnonOps was not related to this incident and does not take responsibility for whatever has happened."

An alternate possibility, suggests the statement, is that Sony is using Anonymous' previous attacks as a scapegoat "to distract users from the fact that the outage is actually an internal problem with the company's servers."

However, this would seem to contradict a post on the Anonymous Facebook page [http://www.facebook.com/pages/Anonymous/128798377161188?sk=wall&filter=2], which reads: "Take a break from online gaming for a while ... it will help your skills, your health, and your emotional levels, which by the way are a bit out of order if they are being shackled by the PSN being down. We have no qualms about our actions, even though it may affect fellow anonymous or supporters ... we hope they understand the bigger picture."

Of course, another explanation is that both statements could be correct. The problem with (and some would argue, greatest strength of) Anonymous is that it is not a singular entity, but a loosely affiliated group of hundreds and thousands of others all behind a veil of anonymity. While the coordinated AnonOps branch may have nothing to do with this, other Anons may have decided to act on their own - though one would think it would have to be a powerful attack indeed to cripple PSN this badly.

Or it could just be that the hamsters powering the Sony servers all died. There's that, too.

(Thanks to tghm1801 for the tip!)

(Mashable [http://mashable.com/2011/04/22/psn-down/])

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[Sniper Team 4]

I'm pretty sure a splinter group is behind it, and the "head" (if that's what you want to call them) of Anon knows about it, they're just keeping quiet for some reason. I've never liked Anon and I've made no secret of that. I view them as nothing more than thugs, and they do nothing to prove me wrong. Why I'm annoyed about the PS3 online thing is because I can't upload my trophies from Killzone 3 and Portal 2 so I can see what level I'm at. Plus I like talking with my friends.

 

[oreopizza47]

I was under the impression that the main collaboration of Anons that does most of this kind of crap was not involved in any way, and that this was performed by a splinter cell of Anons, if performed by any Anons at all. I won't lie, I'm more than a little miffed about this, because I'm a PS3 gamer, a multiplayer lover, and a Trophy whore all at once, so this is taking away from the way I play my games. I love the story modes as well, but it just doesn't feel the same as getting online and having some fun with your friends. I look forward to Sony getting off their collective asses and fixing what I believe to be a fault on their own hands which they are using Anon as a scapegoat for. Anon doesn't usually deserve the benefit of the doubt, but I believe it can be awarded in this situation, despite evidence to the contrary.

EDIT: Wondering something... who operates the Anon Facebook page? To be honest, having a Facebook page seems to almost defy the Anonymity of the group. I would only barely be surprised if it turned out that; either a) it is an Anon splinter group, and the same group or a supporter is running the page, or b) Sony was using Anon to cover their own asses.

 

[Radeonx]

Do you have a source? Because there are other sources that say that anon didn't do it.

 

[moopig66]

Normaly i would agree, but i wanted to play portal 2 co-op

 

[moopig66]

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Anonymous/128798377161188?sk=wall&filter=2

I believe its the 3rd post down

 

[Savagezion]

Well, before people go shouting "They said it wasn't them and I believe them" remember that this is not a singular entity. There could be people involved with Anon that are doing this independently. As well, it could be a small attempt at maintenance on Sony's end to try and stop a repeat attack. Even though Anon says "Not us" doesn't mean they aren't the cause for it.

Do I agree with Anon? A strong feeling in my gut strongly tells me "maybe".

Heh. Yes and no, honestly. I do agree we should all be able to do whatever we want to a Playstation if we pay for it. However, I don't think we are entitled to holding a network hostage. The whole thing reeks of hypocrisy on Anon's part.

 

[pdgeorge]

I've actually just gotten back from a 2 month break from my Playstation 3 (my only 'current gen' console atm) and I come back for Portal 2 and... PSN is down... I've got a life but sometimes I want to take some time away from it and play some games. The people who are doing this either care just as much (if not more) about the playstation or they wouldn't be potentially risking jail time in these attacks, or (more likely) they are just annoying douches who want to cause trouble and pretend they are doing something good (the equivalent to PeTA who cause millions in damages to things and hurt people because of Animals being hurt. Sure your cause 'might' have a good reason behind it but your going about it the wrong way to get anything done. Except they don't actually believe in the greater good they are fighting for, they just want an excuse to 'blow $#*% up')

One of the reasons they are doing this stupidity is because of the OtherOS function that was removed AGES ago. "We want people to have the right to use their belongings however they want" (though truth is most of them just want to be able to pirate games... they just aren't allowed to admit it)
Ironically they are destroying the ability for people to use their own things the way they want to.

Not only that, they are attacking a 'free service' that Sony has no obligation to spend much money on. Sure they need to have PSN on, but they can have it 'on maintenance' indefinitely until the attacks stop, and not have to refund anyone any money (except people who wasted money on PSN plus, but that's nowhere near a large amount of people).

 

[moopig66]

Yes, i agree withe the vast hypocrisy on their part. Thou it could just be some people trying to take credit. Strange how the nerds of the nerds are telling us to get lives

Well, before people go shouting "They said it wasn't them and I believe them" remember that this is not a singular entity. There could be people involved with Anon that are doing this independently. As well, it could be a small attempt at maintenance on Sony's end to try and stop a repeat attack. Even though Anon says "Not us" doesn't mean they aren't the cause for it.

Do I agree with Anon? A strong feeling in my gut strongly tells me "maybe".

Heh. Yes and no, honestly. I do agree we should all be able to do whatever we want to a Playstation if we pay for it. However, I don't think we are entitled to holding a network hostage. The whole thing reeks of hypocrisy on Anon's part.

 

[mireko]

To be honest, it wouldn't surprise me if China were behind this.

Not that I trust any press releases from a group that isn't technically a group, I just trust that they're too incompetent to pull something like this off.

 

[Jfswift]

I don't like them. Some of their members I was reading earlier are associated with the now defunct Encyclopedia Dramatica. I can't sympathize with a group that actively would cause pain to people. Even if it wasn't them it doesn't matter. This is dumb. I didn't ask for someone to go out on a holy crusade against Sony (or whoever). I don't need them too either.

 

[Killclaw Kilrathi]

"Take a break from online gaming for a while.....it will help your skills, your health, and your emotional levels, which by the way are a bit out of order if they are being shackled by the PSN being down. We have no qualms about our actions, even though it may affect fellow anonymous or supporters... we hope they understand the bigger picture."

That doesn't sound like typical Anonymous to me, they usually don't care about crap like that. I'm inclined to believe their statement that the main "group" didn't have anything to do with it, and that it might just be a smaller bunch of anons acting on their own accord.

Or maybe Sony's servers are inadequate. Considering their level of customer service and post-sales support, I'm not ruling that out.

 

[Savagezion]

Yes, i agree withe the vast hypocrisy on their part. Thou it could just be some people trying to take credit. Strange how the nerds of the nerds are telling us to get lives

Well, before people go shouting "They said it wasn't them and I believe them" remember that this is not a singular entity. There could be people involved with Anon that are doing this independently. As well, it could be a small attempt at maintenance on Sony's end to try and stop a repeat attack. Even though Anon says "Not us" doesn't mean they aren't the cause for it.

Do I agree with Anon? A strong feeling in my gut strongly tells me "maybe".

Heh. Yes and no, honestly. I do agree we should all be able to do whatever we want to a Playstation if we pay for it. However, I don't think we are entitled to holding a network hostage. The whole thing reeks of hypocrisy on Anon's part.

I have to admit though, they are extremely entertaining.

 

[monstersquad]

Awwww, too bad Xbox Live is so crappy as to be beneath the notice of psn users. Anybody want to play AC:Brotherhood online? I know I do, and I will. Right now.

 

[Vanbael]

I think Anon is part to blame for the now targeting of PSN, something or someone might have affected PSN services [http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/04/22/update-on-playstation-network-qriocity-services/]
I think a subset of Anon is probably behind this. But I'm not panicing. I remember days where PSN was down before the hacking and I was only deprived of online play. I would go to Dead Space or Assassin's Creed relief.

 

[Savagezion]

But honestly, if you are complaining that you cant play video-games because of this... then it really is sad.

Really? As sad as someone who thinks they should be allowed to tinker with something they have purchased? You know Anon's whole argument. If they want to defend giving out rootkey codes and say it is unforgivable for Sony to say "no". But if we want to play games on the thing (you know, what it was advertised for as the main purpose) we are the crybabies?

It's the same goddamn argument genius.

 

[monstersquad]

YOU PEOPLE HAVE GOT TO START GETTING YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT.

ANONYMOUS HAVE DENIED THIS ALREADY AND SONY ARE NOT DISCLOSING THE CAUSE, ALTHOUGH EMERGENCY MAINTANANCE HAS BEEN MENTIONED, INORDER TO THROW DOUBT OVER THE SITUATION.

THERE IS NOTHING INDUSTRY WOULD LOVE MORE THAN FOR SILLY PEOPLE TO START JUMPING TO CONCLUSIONS BY BLAMING ANONYMOUS FOR THIS AND THEREBY DOING THEIR JOB OF DISCREDITING ANONYMOUS, FOR THEM.

YOU ARE BEING SCAMMED BY THE VERY PEOPLE WHO'S INTEREST IT IS TO HAVE ANONYMOUS JUST DISAPPEAR.

AND BELIEVE ME WHEN I SAY YOU'LL BE A LOT LESS SAFE WITHOUT THEM, REGARDLESS OF YOUR PERSONAL OPINION OF THEM.

LOUD NOISES!!