Anonymous Members Hint at Unofficial Involvement in PSN Attack

[Di'kut]

Putting the blame of something on Anonymous is like blaming humanity for something. Headlines like this are starting to seriously annoy me now.

 

[Actual]

Dependant on the hackers actions I'm undecided on this one.

If they release or sell peoples financial information they are villians. If they do not then I'm kind of in favour of what they did.

Sony has crossed too many lines of morally acceptable behaviour recently, they had bought the law effectively and were not going to be punished by any official organisation. This vigilante punishment will have to do.

Hopefully the financial and PR hit Sony are taking will convince them to adopt more ethical business practice.

Putting the blame of something on Anonymous is like blaming humanity for something. Headlines like this are starting to seriously annoy me now.

Also what this guy said. Despite all the news on anon people can't seem to grasp that everyone is (potentially) an anon.

 

[Thaluikhain]

Putting the blame of something on Anonymous is like blaming humanity for something. Headlines like this are starting to seriously annoy me now.

Argh, yes.

Prove that aliens or sentient AIs are involved, or don't bother. Or at least replace the word "Anonymous" with the phrase "Internet randoms".

 

[manythings]

Why would you even say something remotely like that? Who is stupid enough to say that they had a small hand in anything illegal? Someone obviously doesn't like to remain Anonymous. I thought this group was dumb before, but now my thoughts have been confirmed.

That idiot in France who made the video where he talked about the cyber-crimes (or whatever they are called nowadays) he had commited... then got charged and arrested.

 

[Togs]

And now the weakness in Anonymous's otherwise brilliant system becomes apparent- namely "Who watches the watchmen?"


p.s. An unintentional Watchmen reference, well chuffed.

 

[Togs]

or you know, form an actual leadership?

That would kinda defeat the point.

 

[Carnagath]

Anonymous can't actually hack stuff.

 

[TheRealCJ]

And now the weakness in Anonymous's otherwise brilliant system becomes apparent- namely "Who watches the watchmen?"


p.s. An unintentional Watchmen reference, well chuffed.

If it was unintentional, shouldn't it be a Juvenal reference?

 

[lacktheknack]

They really need to implement a screening process to weed out the douche-bags

That's not how GIFT works. I guarantee that of the hackers, 95% are normal, pleasant people in real life.

Once they don't have a social filter, however...

 

[Yvl9921]

Guys, stop treating Anonymous as some sort of official group. Any "official" statement is bull, because they don't have any sort of organization whatsoever. Someone who's been on the site for a couple hours could have posted that just as easily as seasoned hacker.

so basically they did it. wonder if they gonna get pwned by any formal charges or if the whole thing will blow over

You cannot charge anon with formal charges. They don't have any sort of identity. That's why they're called Anonymous.

 

[Pearwood]

1 - No shit they were involved
2 - Do people think that Anonymous is an official registered business? They're hackers, aka criminals.

 

[Frizzle]

Why would you even say something remotely like that? Who is stupid enough to say that they had a small hand in anything illegal? Someone obviously doesn't like to remain Anonymous. I thought this group was dumb before, but now my thoughts have been confirmed.

Anonymous has had its hand in many illegal things. The only difference between this and any other action they've taken is that now they've gained the attention of the FBI, so they cower and say they had nothing to do with it, like cowards.

But my point is why would you *admit* them? They voluntarily offered this information. That's just dumb in my book.

Captcha: Justice, nnrited
so appropriate

 

[Burnhardt]

Dependant on the hackers actions I'm undecided on this one.

If they release or sell peoples financial information they are villians. If they do not then I'm kind of in favour of what they did.

The hackers have stolen the personal information and credit/debit card numbers of countless PSN users.

It doesn't matter what they do with it, they are criminals.

 

[Swifteye]

Man. I can't wait for some dude too show up on a talk show ten years later talking about the events that went down these past two weeks in some talk show while trying to sell some book he wrote about said events.

 

[Actual]

Dependant on the hackers actions I'm undecided on this one.

If they release or sell peoples financial information they are villians. If they do not then I'm kind of in favour of what they did.

The hackers have stolen the personal information and credit/debit card numbers of countless PSN users.

It doesn't matter what they do with it, they are criminals.

Yes they are criminals, the law defines that. I never said they weren't criminals, however you can be a criminal and still be doing the right thing.

I'm one of the PSN customers whose details were stolen, and while I'm pissed at that I'm still not convinced that the hackers are in the wrong.

 

[Trogdor1138]

I see people still continue to have no idea how "Anonymous" actually works? Well I'm used to it now. Enjoy your misinformation guys.

Escapist, please don't feed this crap.

Dependant on the hackers actions I'm undecided on this one.

If they release or sell peoples financial information they are villians. If they do not then I'm kind of in favour of what they did.

The hackers have stolen the personal information and credit/debit card numbers of countless PSN users.

It doesn't matter what they do with it, they are criminals.

Yes they are criminals, the law defines that. I never said they weren't criminals, however you can be a criminal and still be doing the right thing.

I'm one of the PSN customers whose details were stolen, and while I'm pissed at that I'm still not convinced that the hackers are in the wrong.

How exactly are they not in the wrong? I'm curious to know these reasons. Because it seems like there is EVERY reason they're in the wrong.

 

[drkchmst]

Regardless who these hackers are the responsibility of this is squarely on the shoulders of Sony. Their security was not up to spec it seems and if they had all the necessary updates and patches to their security (which as of yet we haven't heard if they did or not) the entire industry should be supporting them bc if the latest security can be hacked so completely every company is in danger.

 

[ChaoticLegion]

Why would you even say something remotely like that? Who is stupid enough to say that they had a small hand in anything illegal? Someone obviously doesn't like to remain Anonymous. I thought this group was dumb before, but now my thoughts have been confirmed.

Actually, judging from your post, you are the one lacking in mental understanding of the situation.

Whenever I post on a forum or do anyhting online anonymously without people knowing my real identity, then I am technically part of Anonymous while carrying out that action.

No one has owned up to having a hand in ANYTHING illegal at all, just because one person states "someone did this while acting anonymously", it doesn't mean they had any involvement in this action at all. People need to start understanding that "Anonymous" isn't an entity or a group, it is just a person, or group of people, doing something anonymously. This something can be anything at all, and can be carried out by anyone, just because you may be involved in "anonymous operation number 1" it does not mean you have to be involved in "operations" 2 or 3, or anything else ever, nor even that anyone from number 1 will be even remotely involved in 2 or 3.

 

[Actual]

I see people still continue to have no idea how "Anonymous" actually works? Well I'm used to it now. Enjoy your misinformation guys.

Escapist, please don't feed this crap.

Dependant on the hackers actions I'm undecided on this one.

If they release or sell peoples financial information they are villians. If they do not then I'm kind of in favour of what they did.

The hackers have stolen the personal information and credit/debit card numbers of countless PSN users.

It doesn't matter what they do with it, they are criminals.

Yes they are criminals, the law defines that. I never said they weren't criminals, however you can be a criminal and still be doing the right thing.

I'm one of the PSN customers whose details were stolen, and while I'm pissed at that I'm still not convinced that the hackers are in the wrong.

How exactly are they not in the wrong? I'm curious to know these reasons. Because it seems like there is EVERY reason they're in the wrong.

Just what I said earlier.

Dependant on the hackers actions I'm undecided on this one.

If they release or sell peoples financial information they are villians. If they do not then I'm kind of in favour of what they did.

Sony has crossed too many lines of morally acceptable behaviour recently, they had bought the law effectively and were not going to be punished by any official organisation. This vigilante punishment will have to do.

Hopefully the financial and PR hit Sony are taking will convince them to adopt more ethical business practice.

 

[Popido]

Another member explains, as has been explained many times before: "If you say you are Anonymous, and do something as Anonymous, then Anonymous did it. Just because the rest of Anonymous might not agree with it, doesn't mean Anonymous didn't do it."

May I remind you that Anonymous is not a single person.

Anonymous gets its power from numbers and the whole point of anonymous "personality" is that MULTIPLE people speak as the same identity. Usually single anon can not act alone, but as the PSN seems to be completly FUBAR...

Anonymous identity works because its hard to find or name all the people that are part of it. Even the sub sections are named to make clear difference between different ideals.

..the hacker should be given a name and tagged away from the mass. People are way too confused about this concept, so it probably would be for the best to name the hacker something else than anonymous.