Anonymous "Spokesman" Quits, Forms Splinter Group
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What amazes me is so many seem convinced that Anonymous remains some nebulous entity without purpose or direction. How many splinter groups are there? How many different sub-sections and sub-groups? I mean, look at groups like AnonOps, and then the groups who claim they're not true Anons, and...
...this is going to turn into a holy war, isn't it? Bugger, they already got their activist start in going after another religion... this is going to end badly.
...this is going to turn into a holy war, isn't it? Bugger, they already got their activist start in going after another religion... this is going to end badly.
I think its more likely Barrett Brown "left" because no one in Anon actually likes him - hes a nobody news hack whos managed to gain a little face time by associating himself with anon, going for the bad-boy style angle.
I do agree that the whole IRC thing was completely pathetic though, but the fact that they all decided to use an app which encouraged having an identity was always going to end in disaster.
I do agree that the whole IRC thing was completely pathetic though, but the fact that they all decided to use an app which encouraged having an identity was always going to end in disaster.
Anywho, this is unsurprising to me. Anonymous seems to think it knows what's best for everyone, but they don't even know what's best for THEMSELVES.
I'm leaving Anon because of the control issues and attention-whoring. So, I'll release a press notice about how I'm quitting, and taking these others with me...
>MFW
>MFW
I've found watching this whole scenario take place rather fascinating. The structure in anarchist in nature using a medium where your day to day identity can be kept, relatively, separate and private using only one form of communication to pursue a mutual interest. In other words, a group banding together without hierarchy, identity or interpersonal relationship but each from their own private cultures to achieve one unique goal.
No where else in the world has anarchy been so well covered by the media and watched by thousands of people world wide!
There are bound to be disputes and an evolution of the group's practise and ideology. Everything is born from some thing. Maybe we'll see some thing greater then Anonymous form during the next few months from these off shooting factions.
It's like the internet got a political soap opera!!!
Or maybe I'm just a nosy sod who likes keeping tabs on the guys whom effectively forced Sony to give me WipEout HD/Fury for free!!!
No where else in the world has anarchy been so well covered by the media and watched by thousands of people world wide!
There are bound to be disputes and an evolution of the group's practise and ideology. Everything is born from some thing. Maybe we'll see some thing greater then Anonymous form during the next few months from these off shooting factions.
It's like the internet got a political soap opera!!!
Or maybe I'm just a nosy sod who likes keeping tabs on the guys whom effectively forced Sony to give me WipEout HD/Fury for free!!!
I don't see anything about a big press release, I think all this information was acquired through a phone interview that news people tend to hassle people about.WittyInfidel said:I'm leaving Anon because of the control issues and attention-whoring. So, I'll release a press notice about how I'm quitting, and taking these others with me...
>MFW
Brown sounds like Anonymous' version of Colonel Kurtz.
Anonymous' gradual collapse was going to happen eventually. When you have a group with no hierarchy and no well-defined goals it's bound to cause friction between people with different agendas. But I don't think that will stop Anonymous' members from continuing their activity in other forms through other groups. That's the benefit of be so decentralized. This isn't really going to change their actions much, it'll just be under another name.
Anonymous' gradual collapse was going to happen eventually. When you have a group with no hierarchy and no well-defined goals it's bound to cause friction between people with different agendas. But I don't think that will stop Anonymous' members from continuing their activity in other forms through other groups. That's the benefit of be so decentralized. This isn't really going to change their actions much, it'll just be under another name.
The one person in this thread who has a clue. The infighting is between two small groups. Anonymous isn't imploding. Someone will eventually get sick of it and start a new IRC and all the members who aren't involved (i.e. the vast majority of them) will move.Versuvius said:
To those of you saying Anon must have leadership: not really. They can create a hierarchy in order to accomplish things, but it's mostly a swarm organization so when bs like this starts to happen the swarm will just move on. No one is clamoring for a leader. You can talk about human nature being inherently prone to hierarchy but look who you're talking about. THEY ARE HACKERS. These people are the exceptions that prove the rule, most of them are a-social or anti-social, and most of them have a disdain for authority indicated by the very nature of the 'organization' to which they belong. They aren't going to all line up behind someone and beg them to lead them. Trying to get power in Anon is just asinine. The power of Anon comes from the fact that it is a swarm without a leader and everyone operates more or less independently, even when they have common goals.
As for this Brown fellow. This article is incredibly confused. He was never really a true 'member' of Anon, he was just a supporter. From what I understand he's a journalist, not a hacker, and his organization is by no means a 'splinter group' of Anonymous. IT IS AN ACTUAL, OFFICIAL ORGANIZATION, IT ISN'T EVEN RELATED TO ANONYMOUS. It's just one of his interests that he is going back to because he's tired of the current bull crap happening in Anonymous. If he thinks that this internal conflict is a reflection of the group as a whole then it's clear that he doesn't really understand Anon.
Honestly it never was some central organization. Most of the members are just focused on specific issues. It's really just a venue for like-minded people to get together and pursue common goals. The only thing that distinguishes Anonymous is a name and a set of designated IRCs where the 'members' discuss things. Think of it more like a convention center in the internet. All sorts of people can use it and it doesn't have any specific purpose or organization in itself. The people who claim it does are really just making it into something it's not. They're kind of like people who set up tents and live in the convention center and claim that they own it and everyone who rents in it recognizes them as their leader. In real life they would probably be crazy hobos with tin foil hats.Blind Sight said: