Anonymous' Target Planned to "Take Down" WikiLeaks

[adderseal]

Anybody heard of a game called Uplink? Basically, you are a hacker that has to work for corporations to take down rival servers. It was released quite a long time ago, but it seems it was disturbingly prescient. What's going on now is almost exactly what the game is about.
The aim of the game was to stop a corporation releasing a self-reproducing virus that copied itself to servers, destroyed it, then emailed itself to every address in the contacts list. It ended up taking down the entire internet. All simplified, of course, but if anything like this actually happens in the near future, I fucking called it.

 

[AnonOperations]

Anybody heard of a game called Uplink? Basically, you are a hacker that has to work for corporations to take down rival servers. It was released quite a long time ago, but it seems it was disturbingly prescient. What's going on now is almost exactly what the game is about.
The aim of the game was to stop a corporation releasing a self-reproducing virus that copied itself to servers, destroyed it, then emailed itself to every address in the contacts list. It ended up taking down the entire internet. All simplified, of course, but if anything like this actually happens in the near future, I fucking called it.

Lol, yeah man. I liked that game - Except 1 difference in the game, was making money from hacking, no money is made from this.

 

[ENKC]

I'm really not sure how the author of this article translates any of this into heroism on Anonymous' part. What good have they in fact accomplished by these actions?

 

[AnonOperations]

I'm really not sure how the author of this article translates any of this into heroism on Anonymous' part. What good have they in fact accomplished by these actions?

Just check out everything this attack has reveled. Now we have companies severing their ties with HBGary. It has also prevented largely false information being sold to the FBI. It has also helped to stop further attacks on wikileaks and anonymous.

 

[Hucket]

This a case of the lesser of two evils I guess. Anon is an illegal organization, doing illegal things for a debatabley just cause. Bank of America and this security organization are shady buisnesses, trying to cover up alegdged corruption by morally and ethically questionable means, but not illegal.

How do you know that what Bank of America and other large corporations are doing is not illegal?
That's what Wikileaks is for and why we should support it.

It's not secret that the american government and the corporations they are strongly associated with are riddled with corruption, so i do not see how you can put your trust on them.

From what i read, they had pictures of Wikileaks servers...ooooh noes now they have stolen their souls? And they were planning to disgrace a reporter for his support of Assaigne(sp?)...And what is the difference between that and what wikileaks did? They released documents meant to disgrace political and financial figures, which is how I would suspect they would go about disgracing this reporter.

What exactly are these corporations accused of doing? Being corrupt? They reflect the society we live in. Fair play is bullshit and wishful thinking for dreamers who have failed. They are in for themselves and their share holders, yes I'm not debating this fact, but Anon is just the same. They say they are for free speech and freedom of information, but all they are really in for is themselves. Or else they would be putting their considereable computer skills to actual productive use like stopping idiots like these from causing aproblem. Like a said before, ethical and moral issues yes, illegal no.

 

[AnonOperations]

The plan they have to attack wikileaks is illegal. If everything they were doing was legit, there wouldn't be companies severing their ties with HBGary.

Anon is just the same. They say they are for free speech and freedom of information, but all they are really in for is themselves. Or else they would be putting their considereable computer skills to actual productive use like stopping idiots like these from causing aproblem. Like a said before, ethical and moral issues yes, illegal no.

What are you talking about? How does anonymous benefit from working towards a free press and against censorship?

 

[Bretrayer]

Holy &#8*!. Since when when have we been living in the future?

 

[Godhead]

Anonymous will not nor will ever be honorable in any sense. They are assholes first and foremost, any good things that come from their activities are mere coincidence.

A slightly lesser form of this argument goes for Julian Assuange and Wikileaks,they are attentionwhores looking for 15 minutes and anything that comes from it that's positive is mere coincidence.

So tracking down a man that beat his animals, a girl who threw puppies into a river, and showing a veteran with almost no friends and family an amazing birthday is the exact definition of being assholes? Right.

 

[Droppa Deuce]

Anonymous is a "hero"?! Nobody's a fuckin' hero here! It's just everyone being dicks to a different degree! The banks and corporations are dicks by default, Julian is a dick for giving the hornet's nest a good old hefty kick and making the US look worse than it already does, and Anonymous is being a dick just because they don't like anyone trying to get back at Julian for being a dick! It's just a gigantic dickfest! Dicks! Dicks everywhere!

I know this was an attempt at humour, but if you seriously believe this, you're a bit deluded.

Why is Julian a "dick" for trying to expose the mass corruption and backstabbing going on behind the scenes? Are you happy to have banks bleed you dry and corporations/governments take your money without you even understanding how and why?

The world is an unbalanced cesspit led by a privileged few who command and decieve a dominated majority. Not everyone is happy to just bumle through life unaware of the injustices of the ruling classes.

Can't wait for the Bank of America files to be released.

P.S. apologies if you were just telling a joke.

But the only didcks here are the USA and their banking system, and these companies willing to shut down Wikileks for a fee.

 

[Hucket]

The plan they have to attack wikileaks is illegal. If everything they were doing was legit, there wouldn't be companies severing their ties with HBGary.

Anon is just the same. They say they are for free speech and freedom of information, but all they are really in for is themselves. Or else they would be putting their considereable computer skills to actual productive use like stopping idiots like these from causing aproblem. Like a said before, ethical and moral issues yes, illegal no.

What are you talking about? How does anonymous benefit from working towards a free press and against censorship?

To your first point, they pulled out due to the public opioion trashing they would take from being connected to a know disgraced organization. Bank of America already had the public trust of them demolished with the downturn, and they know they cannot take another hit. It has nothing to do with the activity being illegal (what exactly would they be doing that was illegal, no one has said anything about this).

and too your second point if I want to go completely comsperiacy theory, it benefits a group that is synonymous for legally and ethically acts against reprisal for these acts and their post on certain forums and websites and there by RULE THE WORLD!!

On a less crazy stream, its does benefit the more "rambuncious" members of Anon. Those that find a sick satisfaction of posting porn parading as children videos, because it limits the means that governments and law inforcement agencies can use to combat not just these morally reprehensible acts, but also the bigger acts say like...breaking into governmental and business databases and steal priviledge information

 

[AnonOperations]

On a less crazy stream, its does benefit the more "rambuncious" members of Anon. Those that find a sick satisfaction of posting porn parading as children videos, because it limits the means that governments and law inforcement agencies can use to combat not just these morally reprehensible acts, but also the bigger acts say like...breaking into governmental and business databases and steal priviledge information

You're aware these are largely separate groups right?

Remember, these anons are working for a free press and against censorship. Anons do not profit from this.

Anonymous is no longer merely a hate machine, Anonymous is an independant entity with its own goals outside of restrictive political procedure.

reddit: First you've got the 4chan Anonymous. They're like /r/f7u12, /r/atheism, and /r/circlejerk combined with the moral compass of any other hivemind. They're mainly trolls, not harmless but not vicious unless you do something to really piss them off. Their raids are more for fun and on an individual level (Habbo Hotel, that teacher who was a financial dominatrix, the cat abusers, etc).

Then you've got the (AnonOps) Anonymous. They're more focused on political issues, not conservative but fans of individual freedom and transparency of government. They're not exactly well-organised but when they latch onto an issue they go for the throat until it becomes boring. They're still trolls, but they're trolls with botnets.

Sure there's bleedover, but the latter has a different air to it.

 

[Stevepinto3]

Geez, you think a security firm would be prepared to handle a hacking attempt. Guess they should have bought a dog.

 

[zehydra]

On a less crazy stream, its does benefit the more "rambuncious" members of Anon. Those that find a sick satisfaction of posting porn parading as children videos, because it limits the means that governments and law inforcement agencies can use to combat not just these morally reprehensible acts, but also the bigger acts say like...breaking into governmental and business databases and steal priviledge information

You're aware these are largely separate groups right?

Remember, these anons are working for a free press and against censorship. Anons do not profit from this.

Anonymous is no longer merely a hate machine, Anonymous is an independant entity with its own goals outside of restrictive political procedure.

reddit: First you've got the 4chan Anonymous. They're like /r/f7u12, /r/atheism, and /r/circlejerk combined with the moral compass of any other hivemind. They're mainly trolls, not harmless but not vicious unless you do something to really piss them off. Their raids are more for fun and on an individual level (Habbo Hotel, that teacher who was a financial dominatrix, the cat abusers, etc).

Then you've got the (AnonOps) Anonymous. They're more focused on political issues, not conservative but fans of individual freedom and transparency of government. They're not exactly well-organised but when they latch onto an issue they go for the throat until it becomes boring. They're still trolls, but they're trolls with botnets.

Sure there's bleedover, but the latter has a different air to it.

and from what I can tell half of the 4chan anonymous seems to loathe the AnonOps, and half of it tries to take the credit for AnonOps' accomplishments.

 

[Zer_]

Anonymous will not nor will ever be honorable in any sense. They are assholes first and foremost, any good things that come from their activities are mere coincidence.

A slightly lesser form of this argument goes for Julian Assuange and Wikileaks,they are attentionwhores looking for 15 minutes and anything that comes from it that's positive is mere coincidence.

[Citation Needed]

OT: Color me shocked... :/

 

[DanielDeFig]

I'm not vary familiar with Anonymus, but i get the idea that they don't attack people without good cause(and no-one gets directly physically hurt by their "attacks". so that's a huge improvement over the "Suicide bomb/hostage/Massacre" versions of political attacks)

My stance on WikiLeaks is this: If you don't want people to know about it, then you shouldn't be doing it.

I recently learned that Sweden (my country of Citizenship) is a rare exception when it come to the government and how it deals with "Secret Files". Apparently, unlike most other countries, the Swedish governments leaves all government files public (I suppose active military information is locked away for the safety of the troops), and any citizen has the right to request to see files concerning the government. When such a request is made, a board is available to determine if the information in the file would lead to endangering someone's life if released. If not, then the citizen is free to view the file. If determined that relasing the file in question would endanger someone, then it is stamped "secret", but only temporarily. I forget what the maximum amount of time is, but it's not decades, probably not even years. It can always be renewed after it expires, it would go through the same process.

Apparently, most countries do the exact OPPOSITE! Ever heard of Honesty and Transparency? Or Civil SERVANTS?
The citizens of any country are the Lord/Lady of the mansion, the government is the maid/butler/cook/driver/gardener/guard, and can be easily replaced if they do not do their jobs properly.

Then-again some stubborn servants who have been around for more than 30 years, during which time they have done an execrable job performing their duties to the Household, after being asked to leave resolve to chain themselves in the basement for 18 days while their Family makes-off with the jewels and silverware. Then they mysteriously slither away leaving the first-hand to deal with the repercussions :-/

Can you guess who I'm talking about?

LULZ! That made me LOL! XD!

I was kinda referring to how servants like that are stuck in the mindset that they are in charge of the mansion, or might even think THEY are the Lord (thanks to thousands of years of Kings/Emperors).

 

[BabyRaptor]

Damn us evil Liberals...Not just trusting the government to be good and wage continuous war. We actually want to know what they do. The balls!

 

[demoman_chaos]

I am certain Anonymous is more than just 1 group, likely a lot of non-related groups are using the name.

 

[Hucket]

On a less crazy stream, its does benefit the more "rambuncious" members of Anon. Those that find a sick satisfaction of posting porn parading as children videos, because it limits the means that governments and law inforcement agencies can use to combat not just these morally reprehensible acts, but also the bigger acts say like...breaking into governmental and business databases and steal priviledge information

You're aware these are largely separate groups right?

Remember, these anons are working for a free press and against censorship. Anons do not profit from this.

Anonymous is no longer merely a hate machine, Anonymous is an independant entity with its own goals outside of restrictive political procedure.

reddit: First you've got the 4chan Anonymous. They're like /r/f7u12, /r/atheism, and /r/circlejerk combined with the moral compass of any other hivemind. They're mainly trolls, not harmless but not vicious unless you do something to really piss them off. Their raids are more for fun and on an individual level (Habbo Hotel, that teacher who was a financial dominatrix, the cat abusers, etc).

Then you've got the (AnonOps) Anonymous. They're more focused on political issues, not conservative but fans of individual freedom and transparency of government. They're not exactly well-organised but when they latch onto an issue they go for the throat until it becomes boring. They're still trolls, but they're trolls with botnets.

Sure there's bleedover, but the latter has a different air to it.

I will agree that there seems to be two sperate anons. the better organized one is the one I can stand (for the most part).I am all for the transparacy of government, but there are lines and yes they did cross them. International dimplomacy is one of those lines. Those files are kept secret because all government officials lie. They say they're not talking to this one group, but they are. And these secrets, when revealed, lead to not a more open transfer of ideas, but a world where no one trust anyone (not that that trust is really impressive now) and distrust breeds anger. I'll take deceit over war anyday.

Am i condoning corruption, no. But I am seeing it as a lesser of two evils when compared with the hacking and cyber espianage that Anonops uses.

 

[AnonOperations]

EXPOSED: Attack on Wikileaks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExL4KQ3noOI