Anonymous' Target Planned to "Take Down" WikiLeaks
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This is crazy stuff and yea claiming that a hacker group just whipped up 60,000 documents in various formats in a few days is downright laughable.
If it was a few random emails or months after the incident sure i might buy it but that much data, records, pdfs and various other info this whole web stinks of major bullshit. less anon was spending the last few months between attacks to whip up all this stuff.
If it was a few random emails or months after the incident sure i might buy it but that much data, records, pdfs and various other info this whole web stinks of major bullshit. less anon was spending the last few months between attacks to whip up all this stuff.
Sounds like something you'd hear in a bad conspiracy theory movie. Still, if there's any truth to this, it's quite a sad state of affairs.
Is it sad that I can't think of a good reason to dismiss it as crazy conspiracy theories? That I actually think it might be true?
Is it sad that I can't think of a good reason to dismiss it as crazy conspiracy theories? That I actually think it might be true?
I agree with you. I'm rather neutral when it comes to Anonymous. They always seem to balance good with equal evil. And even when they do some good, they tend to go a little too far. In this instance, they hacked the CEO's twitter account and used it to post his home address, cell phone number, and social security number. That was petty and went too far in my humble opinion. It also serves to give those in power a reason to place restraints on the internet. Something that Anonymous claims to fight against. Its like cutting off your nose to spite your face.Reverend Del said:
Anonymous does seem to have changed somewhat recently, methinks another group may have started running under this name for whatever purpose. Anonymous in the past has never had the co-ordination to pull off something like this.
Might you be suggesting that Anon is in fact the technology division of the Illuminati, who have the overarching goal of unifying the world under a single government? If so, would you please look into this light?Carnagath said:
Yes, they have. Anything from Habbo raids, to Operation Chanology was done and organized by Anonymous. Face it, even the biggest dicks online can band together if you call them out.flaming_squirrel said:
anon being a loose knit hacker group with god knows how many members, and the core guys seem to be way above the noobs the other week that got poped using easily traceable tools, it is not hard to guess there is a core group of anon and everyone else that subscribes to anon, but anon itself has never said wait a minute we did not do x y and z so it seems like if someone else pulled something off in their name they might mention it along the way.
A fair point. However, your question and response can also be directly echo'd towards an organization such as the Bank of America, in whom would (if true) have rather harsh repercussions if a deep-scale cover-up of corruption within it was uncovered.Generic Gamer said:
Quite frankly, it is the sequence of events in which makes HBGary and the Bank of America seem as guilt as potentially charged in this situation.
I love how some of the most important business' in America are quickly beginning to look as if they are some mystical, dark and evil corporation. Funny.
thethingthatlurks said:
Didn't claim anything about Anon, but about this specific group of people who happen to be calling themselves Anon. I don't think they'd be so well informed and skilled if they were your typical basement dwelling 20-something trolls, and I don't think they are performing all those impeccably timed "hacks" randomly and for free. I think it's more likely that Assange might have hired some "personal defense", and there's nothing conspiratory about that.
Habbo: "Hey guys lets go piss off some 12 year olds on a crappy social game"thethingthatlurks said:
Chanology: "Hey guys scientologists are being dicks online, lets go troll them irl lulz"
They require minimal to no organisational capabilities, pretty much the same level as getting everyone to phone up gamestop and ask for battletoads.
These however are MAJOR online attacks against large and powerful organisations. Even against Scientology who's online security must be somewhat laughable compared to a major bank they did little in the way of hacking against them, they damaged the odd website here and there and faxed them random crap but that was about it.
Not too sure about Assange hiring some form of protection but this does seem a 'little' perculiar. The regular anonymous was never capable of this.Carnagath said:
I will admit that they seem more aggressive now, but freedom of expression online has always been the guiding principle of Anonymous (and lulz, obviously). Remember the scientology thing? You had people all over the world protesting, and not just online. I think it's more likely that one member incites others to follow. The wikileaks story did rile Anon up, hence the attacks on Visa, MC, paypal, etc, and this is just the continuation of this. Besides, the security firm did call them out, so I guess it was also a matter of pride.Carnagath said:thethingthatlurks said:
Didn't claim anything about Anon, but about this specific group of people who happen to be calling themselves Anon. I don't think they'd be so well informed and skilled if they were your typical basement dwelling 20-something trolls, and I don't think they are performing all those impeccably timed "hacks" randomly and for free. I think it's more likely that Assange might have hired some "personal defense", and there's nothing conspiratory about that.
As for Assange paying them? Meh, ain't nothin wrong with having your own personal army of hackers available.
Holy shit!
Erm...I mean, I'm sure that this might get a fair bit of crying over how this 'isn't real news' and how it's probably 'all bogus anyway' because the people in those positions are *totally* not smart enough for this kind of thing and the public media should always be taken as the defacto source of The Truth (tm)...
...damn interesting sum-up indeed. I may take some time to check up on this later, so for those of us who enjoyed it - thanks for bringing it to our attention.
Erm...I mean, I'm sure that this might get a fair bit of crying over how this 'isn't real news' and how it's probably 'all bogus anyway' because the people in those positions are *totally* not smart enough for this kind of thing and the public media should always be taken as the defacto source of The Truth (tm)...
...damn interesting sum-up indeed. I may take some time to check up on this later, so for those of us who enjoyed it - thanks for bringing it to our attention.
You do realize that Chanology led to large protests in major cities all over the world? It wasn't just an online thing, it was massive.flaming_squirrel said:
And I should point out that online attacks are laughably simple. A DDoS attack requires no skills, and works by entering simple information into a program. If you can get enough people to join, you will take down any website, like Visa. The security firm was different, but it's hardly rare to see somebody hack into a server. The only difference here is that they posted the stuff they found online. Sorry, but I don't see any change in Anon's behavior, aside from it being less asshole-y.
As a Tolkien nerd, I am absolutely disgusted that some shitty security company would used the word Palantir for exactly the purpose of an actual palantir. It reminds me of fucking Sauron. Can we start referring to Bank of America as "The Enemy" now?
Also: wasn't it just a few years ago during the financial collapse that Bank of America was labeled as "Too Big To Fail" by God knows how many Congressmen/women?
Also: wasn't it just a few years ago during the financial collapse that Bank of America was labeled as "Too Big To Fail" by God knows how many Congressmen/women?
Looking forward to criminal investigations into the bank.....that are not likely to happen, due to everyone who can judge them, is on their payroll.
