Anonymous' Target Planned to "Take Down" WikiLeaks

[i am not god]

I'm not that much of a tech-savvy guy myself, but it does seem against common sense for them to do this for no real reason. So maybe there is an (inter)national government conspiracy about something going on.

Although to be fair it's not exactly hard to imagine that there's corruption in the highest levels of any organisation, it's practically always true.

 

[thethingthatlurks]

What a load of crap. This is completely nonsensical smear because Aaron Barr and HBGary Federal was the one that help bring key members of Anonymous to justice. Anyone who believes this is an idiot.

Yes, Anon is well known for their long attention span and dedication. Yep, they love nothing more than faking over 60000 documents as a justification for hacking a security firm a few days earlier.
Idiot...

 

[deth2munkies]

Anonymous will not nor will ever be honorable in any sense. They are assholes first and foremost, any good things that come from their activities are mere coincidence.

A slightly lesser form of this argument goes for Julian Assuange and Wikileaks,they are attentionwhores looking for 15 minutes and anything that comes from it that's positive is mere coincidence.

And it's kind of sad how your ruling corporates/government are even worse than them!

Amirightguys?

And you're the kind of person who is taken with far left nutjobs* that take kernals of truth and blow them obscenely out of proportion.**

*Everyone on the far side either way is a nutjob.

**Both sides do this.

 

[similar.squirrel]

If I had any doubts about Anonymous's actions to this date, they have been dispelled. Carry on, you magnificent bastards.

 

[Danpascooch]

Welcome to America, where there is freedom of the press [sub]unless the press says something we don't want it to[/sub]

Freedom of the press except when they give out information you don't want them to is not freedom of the press at all, it's "we approve of what you're doing right now, so for now we'll say you're free to report on anything"

I fully support the anonymous campaign to help Wikileaks, because there is no such thing as "freedom of the press" if you can take it away when shit gets real.

Wikileaks needs to stop telling people what they are going to leak ahead of time, not only does it paint a giant bullseye on their face, it gives the offending party time to get PR working on some bullshit excuse for their actions. Here's a tip Wikileaks, next time don't tell them you're going to do it, JUST DO IT.

Wikileaks saying "we're going to release this info soon" would be like America saying "We are going to war with ______ in 5 years" thus giving them 5 years to not only prepare, but try to fuck you up.

Sure the announcements generate some publicity, but I think even more would be generated if the world was caught totally off guard by a big corruption scandal, it would be "breaking news" everywhere.

 

[Desworks]

Jolly good show, well done Anon.

Also:

Wat?

 

[RA92]

It's worrying that the presumption of honesty is with the people who refuse to reveal their identities. If there is a group out there with the sheer manpower to do this and the track record of dishonesty it'd be them. Question: Can you ever imagine Anonymous realising they're wrong and backing down for any reason?

I don't really know either way which is the truth here, but don't go thinking Anon don't lie.

EDIT: Also bear in mind that they won't have needed to fake all these emails. The vast majority will be innocuous emails about mundane issues, only a few will be serious and that changes the workload a bit.

In addition it looks like this was a 'feasibility study' rather than an actual plan. Even if it did take place it sounds like a contingency plan, like those nuclear attack plans that most governments keep updated just in case. If Wikileaks were removed people would ask why, but it seems standard to formulate an initial plan.

Well, considering Assange was planning to release proposals were made against ThinkProgress for the Chamber of Commerce by HB Gary. And perhaps most disturbing of all, Hunton & Williams was recommended to Bank of America's General Counsel by the Justice Department -- meaning the U.S. Government is aiding Bank of America in its attacks.

As for them formulating initial plans of attacks that are largely illegal... can we for fuck's sake finally stop asserting the 'unlawfulness' of WikiLeaks and AnonOps? The playground's even now, alright guys? Just grab the popcorn and watch the goddamned show!

 

[RA92]

Anonymous will not nor will ever be honorable in any sense. They are assholes first and foremost, any good things that come from their activities are mere coincidence.

A slightly lesser form of this argument goes for Julian Assuange and Wikileaks,they are attentionwhores looking for 15 minutes and anything that comes from it that's positive is mere coincidence.

And it's kind of sad how your ruling corporates/government are even worse than them!

Amirightguys?

And you're the kind of person who is taken with far left nutjobs* that take kernals of truth and blow them obscenely out of proportion.**

*Everyone on the far side either way is a nutjob.


**Both sides do this.

Sure go ahead. Keep ignoring the <url=http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/03/27/wikileaks>real world.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MnYI3_FRbbQ/S63xqkll1BI/AAAAAAAACVY/xNFJAh0afqA/s1600/cia.pngIn the link, see how the CIA report clarifies that unlike in America, pure apathy will not sustain the propaganda in Europe. Your own government insults your intelligence.

And me a left wing nut job? Considering how I've been pointing out that like Bush giving the corporates tax cuts while borrowing money from China to sustain a war, Obama has been doing the same thing with the $700 billion bailout? Resulting in people losing their homes and the fat cats in Wall Street walking away with huge bonuses?

And if WikiLeaks was an attention whore, they would've released all of their 251,287 documents at once, instead of carefully reviewing each of them and releasing only 2,658.

 

[Lullabye]

So...its assholes vs assholes in an all out cyber information war?
Nice.
I mean, is it really that surprising thought that large companies (especially the higher ups) would have maligned business practices?
And is it really that surprising that Anon didn't fake these emails? Remember, its Anon because it's literally anyone. Somehow I doubt all of them are raging 14 year old boys. Maybe most, but not all. Hell, i'm sure one of us are even with Anon.

 

[Baldr]

What a load of crap. This is completely nonsensical smear because Aaron Barr and HBGary Federal was the one that help bring key members of Anonymous to justice. Anyone who believes this is an idiot.

Yes, Anon is well known for their long attention span and dedication. Yep, they love nothing more than faking over 60000 documents as a justification for hacking a security firm a few days earlier.
Idiot...

There is no such thing... Just some garbage file someone encrypted and put on the Internet saying it contains emails.

 

[TheXRatedDodo]

I love how some of the most important business' in America are quickly beginning to look as if they are some mystical, dark and evil corporation. Funny.

That's exactly it.
The "tin foil hat" wearing types have been saying this for a very, very long time, and the normal peeps shrugged it off as it being just a conspiracy theory, now this shit happens and people realise.
The irony of it is beautiful.

 

[Hucket]

This a case of the lesser of two evils I guess. Anon is an illegal organization, doing illegal things for a debatabley just cause. Bank of America and this security organization are shady buisnesses, trying to cover up alegdged corruption by morally and ethically questionable means, but not illegal.

I am not a supporter of Anon (as most of you can tell) and as it has been said before, you have to question the trustworthiness of a group that will not reveal there identity. However I do have to question the possiblity of a group fabricating such a large number of documents. But bear in mind, with the incresase in planning this might have been in the works for a longer period of time than a few days. Its highly unlikely, but its still there.

 

[jpoon]

Fuck HBGary and all of the related corrupt corporations (basically any and all of them). Good job Anon, once again!

This a case of the lesser of two evils I guess. Anon is an illegal organization, doing illegal things for a debatabley just cause. Bank of America and this security organization are shady buisnesses, trying to cover up alegdged corruption by morally and ethically questionable means, but not illegal.

I am not a supporter of Anon (as most of you can tell) and as it has been said before, you have to question the trustworthiness of a group that will not reveal there identity. However I do have to question the possiblity of a group fabricating such a large number of documents. But bear in mind, with the incresase in planning this might have been in the works for a longer period of time than a few days. Its highly unlikely, but its still there.

I would trust Anon (regular people with computer skills) before I would ever trust any of these corporate scumbags.

 

[Little Duck]

Pfft. I could have made a better presentation than that.

Also, are we really at an age where the hackers and bastards are the good guys? I am so happy right now. Yet at the same time so sad.

 

[hyker]

man this is all like a big movie, the big twist at the end is that anonymous will meat with wikileaks to discuss somekind of tactic against the whole conspiracy, but it turns out wikileaks is controlled by the corporate conspiracy itself and traps anonymous and...

woah
okay, I'm getting a bit carried away

 

[fundayz]

This a case of the lesser of two evils I guess. Anon is an illegal organization, doing illegal things for a debatabley just cause. Bank of America and this security organization are shady buisnesses, trying to cover up alegdged corruption by morally and ethically questionable means, but not illegal.

How do you know that what Bank of America and other large corporations are doing is not illegal?
That's what Wikileaks is for and why we should support it.

It's not secret that the american government and the corporations they are strongly associated with are riddled with corruption, so i do not see how you can put your trust on them.

 

[Popido]

Hmm..Can anon lie? Its like having thousands of children all looking and giggling at you while keeping their mouths shut about the pigeon's crap on your head.

I know they can make troll stories and trick ignorand inviduals to fall for these trollings, but whenever they go too far they explain to the fools how they're being trolled.

If that information happens to be forfeit, the invidual who made it would be separated from the mass and labelled.

I've seen people on 4chan go too far loads of times, I couldn't speak about Anon in other places but I frequent 4chan. Can you actually imagine the originator of a raid being able to call it off halfway through? The problem is that the Anon taking part in this are extremely invested in getting a certain result and clearly believe that the ends justify the means.

If Anonymous got into private databases belonging to a company they were dead set on bringing down and found nothing but absence reports and paper requests...would they honestly concede that the company was on the level? Course they wouldn't. They want a result and they're so invested in getting that specific result that they'd make shit up.

Nghnno, I think that you're just being paranoid now. I mean, Anonymous is a self-loathing perfectionist and an atheist on top of that. They can make shit up sure, but not convince "themselfs" to belive on it. "Themselfs" as what they belive to present - Dark part of humanity that we all try to depress and deny.

They cannot seperate themselfs from the masses of people nor is that something they seek for, as Anonymous is just a mask for people to use to speak without guilt or conserne of others.

...
Or maybe Im becoming too fanatic after following them...who knows.

 

[vxicepickxv]

<spoiler= The Laughing Man would be proud>
http://tenser.typepad.com/tenser_said_the_tensor/images/laughing-man.jpg

Geez, I was going more with a variation on the cyberpunk theme and thought of an entirely different Laughing Man.

Spoiler: The Last Knight of the Crying Spire

Officially, I am not allowed to say how much I enjoy both the takedown of Bank of America and associated goon squads, but unofficially, I'm enjoying it a lot.