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The Eaten Cake

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Actually, I enjoyed Catcher in the Rye and 1984 (although I haven't finished it yet). I suffer when I attempt to read Dickens, though. I read a hundred pages of Oliver Twist about a year ago and found it to be pretentious and rambling. Sometimes I even lost sight of what Dickens meant to convey in the unbelievably long expositions he insists on making.
 

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Great Expectations
I have never been forced to read anything so long-winded.
And I never want to again.
 

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Texts they made us examine in High School that I enjoyed:
To Kill A Mockingbird
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
Frankenstein
The Witch of Blackbird Pond
The Wife of Bath
Frontline
The Merchant of Venice
Romeo & Juliet
The Taming of the Shrew
A Midsummer Night's Dream
King Lear
Macbeth
Julius Caesar

Texts they made us examine in High School that I hated:
Lord of the Flies
Farenheit 451
Blade Runner
Brave New World

I should point out that I'm not a fan of dystopian novels. Not because the premise is necessarily bad (Brave New World was quite fascinating), but because they were almost invariably poorly written. They had a wonderful statement to make, and they had an excellent world to use to make that statement, but the characterisation and plot were simply dreadful. Although I will mention that I loved Animal Farm.

You'll also notice how much Shakespeare there is in the former list. I can't remember a Shakespearean play that I didn't enjoy.

Except Peter Brook's version of Lear. Oh my GOD was that movie terrible. It was actually physically painful to watch.
 

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Dostoyevsky for sure. I had a go at Crime & Punishment, found it utterly impenetrable, and quit in the first chapter.
Catcher in the Rye was readable, but I couldn't stand Holden Caulfield and bailed halfway through. He still has my vote for Worst Protagonist Ever.
And I enjoy Shakespeare as long as I'm not reading it.
 

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NeutralDrow some time ago said:
I have no trouble separating "literary classics" from "books I like." I came across only a few in school that I genuinely liked. Sorry to buck the trend a little, but I loved To Kill a Mockingbird...possibly because my English teacher never got hung up over symbolism, and never required his students to. I can almost count the others on one hand; let's see...Catch-22, Their Eyes Were Watching God, Bless Me Ultima, Death Comes For the Archbishop, Jane Eyre (seriously, and I don't know why), Joy Luck Club. Almost one hand.

On the other hand, I didn't like Catcher in the Rye, Animal Farm, The Giver, 1984, Brave New World, Tale of Two Cities, The Great Gatsby, The Scarlet Letter, The Grapes of Wrath, The Crucible, Frankenstein, Candid (though it was close), The Stranger (close), Lord of the Flies, Of Mice and Men...
You know, I'd almost despaired of finding anyone else on the Escapist who liked that book. It was really surprising.[/quote]

I'm still up in the air on Candide. Yes, it is a classic work of Satire but it's almost as though the author had absolutely no respect for my intelligence and simply attempts to bludgeon his ideas home. That said, it does have one of my favorite paragraphs in literary history:

"Those who have never seen two well-trained armies drawn up for battle, can have no idea of the beauty and brilliance of the display. Bugles, fifes, oboes, drums, and salvoes of artillery produced such a harmony as Hell itself could not rival. The opening barrage destroyed about six thousand men on each side. Rifle-fire which followed rid this best of worlds about about nine or ten thousand villians who infested its surface. Finally, the bayonet provided 'sufficient reason' for the death of several thousand more. The total casualties amounted to about thirty thousand. Candide trembled like a philosopher, and hid himself as best he could during this heroic butchery".

Sure, it's about as subtle as a salmon backhand to the face, but at least it managed to be funny. At least to me.
 

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And then there was one, it's supposed to be a murder mystery so you're like, oh cool if I pay attention I can figure it out! But then the in the end when literally ALL the possible suspects are dead it explains to you how it was this one guy and how he killed himself and used this ridiculously elaborate plan to make it seem like someone murdered him. It wasn't even clever, like the author said Fuck It, no one is solving this shit before it's over!
 

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MaxTheReaper said:
orannis62 said:
Got to disagree with you there. Only book I read in school that I unabashedly loved. I liked a few others (Crucible, Fahrenheit 451, Of Mice and Men), but not nearly so much.

On the other hand, I hated Great Gatsby and Catcher in the Rye (although I found Holden to be a semi-interesting character, the book couldn't survive on him alone), and A Separate Peace currently holds the #1 spot on my "Shittiest/Most Boring Books Ever" list.
That wasn't actually something you could disagree with.
I just said it was the worst book I've ever read.
Well, except Twilight.
Or Eragon.
But they're not really books.
I know. All I meant was that I didn't share your opinion of it.
 

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Jumping_Over_Fences said:
Catcher in the Rye!!! Worst, most boring book in the entire world. What the hell was the point of that story? To listen to Holden Caulfield complain about his life. He was the reason his life sucked! He never did anything, but complain and have a weird, almost sexual relationship with his very young sister.
This.

I had to read it in school with a teacher who loved this book more than anything; after every paragraph she'd be like "Oh, isn't this wonderful, girls" grrrr. And the ending proved to me what a waste of time the book was. It was like reading an early 20th Century emo's diary.

I also dislike Jane Austen and the Brontes; again, for school, I had to read Jane Eyre and it bored me so much I could not even be bothered to finish the book so I could do my coursework.
 

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Agent Larkin said:
I found that Lord of the Flies was terrible even though that is supposed to be a classic.
Seconded. It's an absolute load of shit at that. I also despise Jane Austen, Charolette Bronte (or whomever wrote Jane Eyre...my mind has literally wiped itself clean from the attempt at reading it.), and, while I tried to get into Don Quixote, I just couldn't.

On the plus side, Heart Of Darkness, MacBeth, King Lear, Gulliver's Travels, Catch-22 and The War of The Worlds are splendid works. I actually read The War Of The Worlds while listening to my entire Muse collection on shuffle, so the destruction of England was carried out to the sound of epic distortion-metal and hate.

It was awesome. Truly, shiningly epic-awesome.
 

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When I had to study Things Fall Apart I hated it, but now I think back on it, it was a bloody good book. I think the reason most people hate library classics is because they were forced to read and study them in school or college, rather just for pleasure.

EDIT: Same goes with Frankenstein.
 

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Pretty much all that stuff we had to read in school sucked... Mice and Men, Lord of the Flies, To Kill a Mocking Bird, Shakespeare...
 

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Assassin Xaero said:
Pretty much all that stuff we had to read in school sucked... Mice and Men, Lord of the Flies, To Kill a Mocking Bird, Shakespeare...
May I say that I...ahem...ninja'd you.
 

Assassin Xaero

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Uhh... I umm... liar!

*runs away and hides*

Actually, I can only really read things by 3 different authors... everything else is horrible...
 

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MaxTheReaper said:
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berethond said:
To Kill a Mockingbird. This was the worst book I've ever read.
I agree wholeheartedly. I had to read this for my 10th grade English class. I actually gave up and just used the cliff notes for the project I had. That was the only book I have ever done this with.

Also, The Scarlet Letter was boring, too.
 

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Jerious1154 said:
Moby Dick is literally the most boring book I have ever read.

Of its 500 pages, 400 of them are about whales. Bone-structure of whales. Different types of whales. Differences in bone-structure between different types of whales. Debate over whether or not dolphins are whales. Size of whales. Uses of whales. Stories about whales.

Same with the Odyssey, only instead of whales it has feasts. That book is 25% story, 75% feasts.
I have to disagree with you on the Odyssey, it wasn't about feasts.... it was about forgetting home. Careful! Don't listen to the song of the sirens, you'll forget home. Don't drink that potion, it will bring you great joy and ecstasy, and you'll forget home! Almost every single obstacle he faced cause the characters in the story to lose sight/thought of their home and family. But I must agree, it was filled with feasts.
 

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1984. I've said it several times, but what a peice of REDUNDANT CRAP. At least in Half-life 2 I can hit Alec Guiness with a crowbar.
Your turn, Orobouros.
nooooo!!! I think 1984 is my favourite book. I don't think it is redundant even though its passed the date the book was set in. Its a fairly timeless warning of the threat of government control on our lives, made more and more relevant as cctv becomes popular and counter-terrorist legislation is passed that infriges on basic rights.

For me the worst of all the classics is Wuthering Heights. So. So. So. Dull.
 

jackbriggs18

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And I semi-agree on the shakespeare. Reading it isn't much fun but if you see proper productions of it, it's hundreds of times better.

I saw hamlet when David Tennant was in it for a school trip and I was surprised at how good it was.
 

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Maybe this doesn't count, but I absolutely hated Pilgrim's Progress. It was preachy and simplistic on an elementary level. My teacher thought it was deep and had an important message that was relevant to Christianity, but it was just endless encounters with characters with names that give away their entire one-dimensional personality and motivation, only to be discarded two-three pages later. It self-victimizes Christianity, and instills this black-and-white mindset that anyone who isn't a 100% devout, God-fearing, antisocial Christian is an enemy of the most despicable sort.

Man, was I glad when I finished it. We were spared the sequel, in which the exact same plot happens again, except that the Protagonist is the previous protagonist's wife. Hoo boy.
 

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Agent Larkin said:
Cpt_Oblivious said:
MaxTheReaper said:
Quothe I:
berethond said:
To Kill a Mockingbird. This was the worst book I've ever read.
I don't know how you can see that as a bad book.
Why do you see that as a good book? There's so many things that make it a bad book. If you're really that curious, read on. I've got a rant that's about the size of the description of Boo Radley's front porch.

The whole plot of the book revolves around "people in the south are prejudice" and the moral "prejudice and racism are wrong." No shit! Everyone knows racism is bad, and anyone who doesn't already think that will just say the book had a happy ending.The whole first 60% of the book is about jack shit nothing, and the only relevant thing for the plot that it does is identifies boo radley as a character, and he's only IN the book to be a deus ex machina at the end and possibly fortify the prejudice theme. The court trial, which is what the book is supposedly ABOUT is actually a very small part of it and it's so late in the book that the plot revolves more around some kids who grow up in a southern town than racism. The "unfair treatment" of the black man falls completely flat because he wasn't a character up until the trial. He had no character development except for "he's black" and then "he dies because he's black." I'm sorry but if there's a character who dies unfairly and I don't know anything about the guy other than his race, why the fuck am i supposed to care? Are people who are "appreciative of the arts" really so narrow minded that general consensus is "He's black, so care about him"? That in itself is a bit discriminatory.

And then there's the writing style. It's told from the naive perspective of a child, who speaks broken english. Some people find that artistic, i find that annoying. But I still haven't got to the main problem I have with this book, the strange emphasis on certain description. It spends THREE FUCKING PAGES to say "tree with a hole in it and it had some dolls in the hole" and throughout the book there's vivid description of everything that noone gives a fuck, except for one part near the very end where the main antagonist gets what's coming to him. This of course would be the ONLY instance of physical conflict in the whole entire book that's summed up in TWO SENTENCES. It's also the only part of the book that I would want ANY further-than-basic description of. More time was spent describing the wood on the stands in the court room. But no, it's just "Redneck trips, Redneck stops moving"

This could all be excused if the book's premise was somewhat interesting to begin with, but almost all the conflict is internal. There where no fights, though there was plenty of potential for it. No deaths other than the black man who we're only supposed to care about because of the color of his skin and the two sentence guy who tripped and killed himself (on assumption.) Not even any major verbal conflict. "Atticus defended a black man in a civilised court case! that's such a big deal! He was challenging society!" You know what would have been a better more interesting way to do that? If Atticus snapped called the judge and jury out on being a racist in a forward and angry manner. You know, like, how someone on the street would do it today. But no, that would have led to verbal conflict. something far too interesting for the author to accept. Even the main conflict of racism has to be INFERRED. What is so great about it? Enlighten me on why preachy fucks hail it as the best novel of all time. [/rant]

Oh and on another note: I hate almost all the classics. As far as literature, Shakespeare is the best example of this and as far as movies, Citizen Cane.
 

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Guitarmasterx7 said:
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Enlighten me on why preachy fucks hail it as the best novel of all time. [/rant]

Oh and on another note: I hate almost all the classics. As far as literature: Shakespeare is the best example of this and as far as movies, Citizen Cane.
1 I dont think it is the best novel ever I just think it isn't as horrible as most people make it out to be
2 I like the book because I don't view it as being about Racism in the South. I view it as a coming of age/shattering of innocence story.
3 I have great respect for the character of Atticus Finch as a man who is willing to stand up for anything.

That is why I like this book.

Also CItizen Cane does suck.