Anyone Else Getting Sick of MLP?

[crystalsnow]

Oh, crystalsnow, stop whining...

For the most part, I agree with you, and I'm a "brony" (gasp, shock!) I don't quite understand why people who hate it so much need to constantly comment on it...

Actually, I take that back. I'm sure one reason (on the escapist, at least) is that pony threads tend to garner lots of comments (which we're contributing to now, dang it!). I myself have gotten tired of all the controversy. I've been a fan for a year and a half, and that's all I am: a fan of a cartoon show. Just like I'm a fan of a lot of different things. In my time as a (ugh) brony, I haven't once, online or off, tried to force the show on someone. It's just not that big of a deal. I can't wait for people to just give it a rest. It's a show. If you don't like it, then just ignore it. It's not that hard.

So, in general, I agree with you, though I think you could of gotten your point across with a little less rage.

To be honest I'm starting to get the feeling that threads like this are being started on purpose, with the sole intention of attention-grasping. In fact, the OP even stated that he KNEW this could turn out into a flame-war situation before it even started, and he put it up anyway. As for getting my point across, it has been proven time and time again that only the loudest of people are heard. In all areas of life, reasoning alone is not enough to get a point across to the general public, you need to beat them across the head with it.

It's happened before, though this is a little bigger than last time. We had furries, which were kinda the same. They had niche media which they loved but nobody else cared much about, stupid catchphrases/words they'd made up that grated on nerves and fulfilled no purpose, a sub-community dedicated to weird porn and an annoyingly loud presence on the internet compared to their number. A few years on and now they're just part of the background noise of the internet at large. Every now and then you stumble over something you don't want to or don't care about, but only as often as you'd reasonably expect compared to all the other stuff that's out there. I'm hoping ponies do the same and just blend into the background as well so I can go back to ignoring them like I do furries, weirder furries, people who like WoW too much and duckface photos.

The whole war over furries is still pretty much ongoing, although I'll agree it has calmed down significantly. Ponies are going to blend into the internet background eventually, whether its within the time span of a year, or five years. But there are hundreds of other fanbases, each flammable and ready to recreate this same sort of situation.

 

[shrekfan246]

And if you have dumbass friends who ignore your requests for them to not show you those things, that's a problem with your friends, not the fan-base or the franchise.

Can't speak for others, but I've NEVER had friends be this damned inistent about a show and getting me to watch it. And they're not even the TV cultural snob of the group who, about once a year, demands to know why I'm not watching all 200 or so seasons of Midsummer Murders.

I'm confused by your wording. Are you saying that you don't understand the OP because your friends respect your wishes, or are you saying your friends turn into incorrigible monsters when you tell them you don't watch MLP?

 

[Gordon_4_v1legacy]

I know this thread is probably a shit storm waiting to happen but I need to say it. I'm really getting sick of having MLP shoved in my face. I'm not bothered by the avatars, the fan art, the fan-fictions, or the t-shirts, other fan bases have done that and the only difference is that the object of the fans adoration was meant for little girls. In fact I'm not opposed to the show at all really, I remember enjoying good shows that also tried to teach good morals and behaviours, though I do think the art style is needlessly cutesy. The majority of this rant is directed at the obnoxious fringe groups that inhabit any fan-base, but the ones of MLP seem the most prominent lately.

That said I am bothered by crossover fan-fictions, especially with IP's that have drastic differences in tone. For example I was told by a friend, despite my objections, another thing that annoys me about MLP, about a fan-fiction that involved both Skyrim and Gears of War that only served as a shameless promotion of MLP from what I gathered. I also get rather pissed off when people question my intentions when I tell them I don't like the show, thinking that I'm insecure about my masculinity or maturity, implying that me not liking a show aimed at five to ten year old girls is a problem. My response being that I've seen similar shows in my childhood having grown up with 80's-90's cartoons that MLP borrows heavily from when it comes to characters and have now found myself drawn to shows and hobbies that deal with a darker subjects that a show with a PG rating cannot explore in depth.

But I can handle the mere annoyance, it is difficult at times but it is manageable. The things that really bother/disturb/disgust me is the erotic fan-fiction and the porn. I don't think I need to explain how disturbing it is to see anthropomorphic versions of the cast with varying degrees of human features being used for pornographic images and all the bizzare fetishes porn has because if someone is going to make porn out of a little girls show they may as well cover all their eccentric/weird bases. Same goes for the erotic fan-fiction. It's rather disgusting considering the inspiration. The main problem is that you don't need to look for it to come across it, and since I doubt 5 year old girls are making this stuff it had to come from the bronies, a minority of them that watches the show for something other than morals they already know and really stretch the boundaries of love and tolerate. I don't mind furries and really weird fetishes as long as it's not shoved in my face but god-damn it what the fuck is wrong with some people? Most of my disgust comes from the fact that it's a children's show.

With that off my chest I would like to admit that the Escapist bronies are easily the most tolerable/respectful of the fans I've encountered, kudos to you guys. Anyone else have anything to say in regards to the topic of an unwilling overdose of MLP? In fact it doesn't even need to be directed at MLP, it can be any IP that obnoxious fans insist on shoving in your face.

Oh Jesus Christ, boo-fucking-hoo. You know what else has Rule34 and is a famous kids show? Transformers. Man, life for a new fan of that show is never quite the same after he or she accidentally finds his first R34 of Megatron butt-fucking Starscream/Optimus Prime. You know what most Transformers fans do?

We fucking ignore it. Just like I can safely say that about 95% of the brony fanbase does. It's a fact of internet fandom, most of us don't like it but we don't waste our energy bitching about it either.

As for your friend sending you shit you didn't want to read, you could always you know -NOT- read it. Junk the link or file and call him what he is, an arsehole.

 

[Swny Nerdgasm]

but when I see a supposedly heterosexual male identify himself as a Brony, I do think less of him

Well then I'm not going to be friendly to you or anyone who thinks like that.

Oh no you won't be friendly with me? What ever will I do?

 

[Judgement101]

I was sick of it the day that everyone decided to post pictures of it that had zero relevence to the thread. In all honesty, MLP has the most overzealous fanbase I have ever seen. If anyone says something bad about MLP the fans of it attack the person like they just called their entire life into question.

 

[Easton Dark]

but when I see a supposedly heterosexual male identify himself as a Brony, I do think less of him

Well then I'm not going to be friendly to you or anyone who thinks like that.

Oh no you won't be friendly with me? What ever will I do?

Continue to be biased and act like a rude person to people that like a cartoon I guess.

 

[Casual Shinji]

This too shall pass.

One day we'll all look back and think,"Oh yeah, bronies - I remember when that whole thing was going on."

 

[Saulkar]

MLP shoved in porn is tolerable, kudos to Anyone else in a willing overdose of MLP directed at your face.

HAHAHAHA!!! I could not resist!

On that topic I seriously do not care what other people draw, animate, or imagine when it cums to my little pony. It is all fan fiction and none of it legitimate. On the note about your f(r)iends pressuring you, you just need the right words. If words alone do not work, they may not be very good friends.

Now that I got that out of me I need to go clop to something.

 

[One Shot wonder]

Go and read Fallout:Equestria.

Come back.

That's why.

I don't know how that was a response to what I said. If you where unaware that was a rhetorical question. If that was meant to be a smart statement, I don't get it? That was one of the things I was complaining about. So. . . . What?!

From a Fallout fan, I'm going to go ahead here and say Fallout:Equestria is bad. It's not adding anything new or valuable to what was already a coherent and (for gaming standards) really rather deep piece of work. No, Ponies do not count as new. If your only reason for writing something is to make everyone ponies so you can enjoy it because for some reason deep and engaging characters who happen to have opposable thumbs and bipedal motion don't appeal to you. It's taking something that was a great thing as it is, and inexplicably adding something else. If Fallout:Equestria is a good piece, then I propose that I shall paint you a true work of art. I call it Constable's Haywain with some Transformers. It's Constable's Haywain, a romanticised view of the English countryside expressed through a canvass ...with big transforming robots, because I can't appreciate art without giant robots.

The point of Fallout is that the world is by and large pretty miserable, but the humour emerges from this setting by contrast against the expectations of pre-war society, by the sheer lunacy of the survivors or by the hilarious happenstance only a retro-futuristic apocalypse can offer. Putting something as innately 'happy' as Ponies in as characters loses some of that. There is no denying that whereas humans can go the full spectrum of (funnily enough) human emotional messages, something about ponies makes them worse suited for especially grim or unhappy tones. This is detrimental to a setting like fallout where half the humour and value is to be found by contrast with this rather miserable backdrop.

If you want to use a piece as an argument, to simply direct one to the piece is insufficient, one must explain the reasoning. In short, you must show us the argument between your premise and the conclusion, to state one and go "it's self-evident" is merely begging the question and poor form.

This too shall pass.

One day we'll all look back and think,"Oh yeah, bronies - I remember when that whole thing was going on."

Fingers crossed.

 

[Eddie the head]

From a Fallout fan, I'm going to go ahead here and say Fallout:Equestria is bad. It's not adding anything new or valuable to what was already a coherent and (for gaming standards) really rather deep piece of work. No, Ponies do not count as new. If your only reason for writing something is to make everyone ponies so you can enjoy it because for some reason deep and engaging characters who happen to have opposable thumbs and bipedal motion don't appeal to you. It's taking something that was a great thing as it is, and inexplicably adding something else. If Fallout:Equestria is a good piece, then I propose that I shall paint you a true work of art. I call it Constable's Haywain with some Transformers. It's Constable's Haywain, a romanticised view of the English countryside expressed through a canvass ...with big transforming robots, because I can't appreciate art without giant robots.

The point of Fallout is that the world is by and large pretty miserable, but the humour emerges from this setting by contrast against the expectations of pre-war society, by the sheer lunacy of the survivors or by the hilarious happenstance only a retro-futuristic apocalypse can offer. Putting something as innately 'happy' as Ponies in as characters loses some of that. There is no denying that whereas humans can go the full spectrum of (funnily enough) human emotional messages, something about ponies makes them worse suited for especially grim or unhappy tones. This is detrimental to a setting like fallout where half the humour and value is to be found by contrast with this rather miserable backdrop.

If you want to use a piece as an argument, to simply direct one to the piece is insufficient, one must explain the reasoning. In short, you must show us the argument between your premise and the conclusion, to state one and go "it's self-evident" is merely begging the question and poor form.

I think you meant to quote the guy I was. You seam to be talking like I said it was good, and I didn't. I think I said something like " Just adding the MLP people to a subject doesn't make it better and sometimes makes it worse." (originality) So yeah I agree with you, but I was talking a little bit more across the board.

 

[thelittleman66]

What I don't get is that why MLP? Why not Strawberry Shortcake or Dora?

 

[Shadowstar38]

From a Fallout fan, I'm going to go ahead here and say Fallout:Equestria is bad. It's not adding anything new or valuable to what was already a coherent and (for gaming standards) really rather deep piece of work. No, Ponies do not count as new. If your only reason for writing something is to make everyone ponies so you can enjoy it because for some reason deep and engaging characters who happen to have opposable thumbs and bipedal motion don't appeal to you. It's taking something that was a great thing as it is, and inexplicably adding something else. If Fallout:Equestria is a good piece, then I propose that I shall paint you a true work of art. I call it Constable's Haywain with some Transformers. It's Constable's Haywain, a romanticised view of the English countryside expressed through a canvass ...with big transforming robots, because I can't appreciate art without giant robots.

The point of Fallout is that the world is by and large pretty miserable, but the humour emerges from this setting by contrast against the expectations of pre-war society, by the sheer lunacy of the survivors or by the hilarious happenstance only a retro-futuristic apocalypse can offer. Putting something as innately 'happy' as Ponies in as characters loses some of that. There is no denying that whereas humans can go the full spectrum of (funnily enough) human emotional messages, something about ponies makes them worse suited for especially grim or unhappy tones. This is detrimental to a setting like fallout where half the humour and value is to be found by contrast with this rather miserable backdrop.

If you want to use a piece as an argument, to simply direct one to the piece is insufficient, one must explain the reasoning. In short, you must show us the argument between your premise and the conclusion, to state one and go "it's self-evident" is merely begging the question and poor form.

He explains it here.

Actually, Fallout:Equestria did preseve most of the "War is Hell" tone, in fact, I would say that it even expanded it. I'm not trying to belittle Fallout with that, it's great at what it is, being an atmospheric game, but the fanfiction's literary medium was inevitably more appropriate for long discussions about ambigous morality, idealism, cynicism, struggles for survival, and the fall of civilization, the nature of tyrannies, not to mention the protagonist's characterization, struggling to find good in herself wheh there is almost nothing good remaining in the world.

Besides, the 50's retro theme itself was used as an intentionally dissonant element in the original Fallout, it's whole point was being a painfully naive andsimplicistic past, so the pony theme kinda replaces that. It has the same effect, with the flasbacks to the pre-war era ponies, with the posters, in-jokes, locations, bringing up the same feeling that "God, how could something so innocent and idealistic go so horribly wrong?"

See, you made the assumption that because ponies are in it, it would take out the Fallout themes. But it wouldnt be a proper crossover if it did.

I wont tell you to read it but, not ever writer makes these things for the "look at these two things being together" one joke punchline.

 

[One Shot wonder]

I think you meant to quote the guy I was. You seam to be talking like I said it was good, and I didn't. I think I said something like " Just adding the MLP people to a subject doesn't make it better and sometimes makes it worse." (originality) So yeah I agree with you, but I was talking a little bit more across the board.

Sorry, I originally intended to make a passing comment on how I agreed that I don't get its appeal and then move on, but I guess I missed it out by mistake. Also my compliments on name & avatar, up the Irons.

See, you made the assumption that because ponies are in it, it would take out the Fallout themes. But it wouldnt be a proper crossover if it did.

No, a proper crossover (as you said) would keep the themes. I wass merely commenting that the themes would suffer some dilution because of changes around them, that although still present they'd be weakened. It'd be like saving private ryan with ponies. Sure Ryan's a pony, he's still some idealistic kid in a war far bigger than just him and his squad whilst undergoing a personal tradgedy as he learns he's the last one alive of his three brothers, the Capitan's still a long-time veteran slowly unravelling at the seams with his past is still a mystery, dozens of men (...ponies, w/e) still get mown down on the beach. However, some of the essence is going to get lost and that's what I'm commenting on. Something is being lost here by taking what is a story of humans, of us, of our very specific nature as (essentially) pack omnivores/carnivores, opportunists by nature, social creatures with a long and blood-drenched past of communal violence. The damning indictment of human nature is a lot less effective when it's damning anthropomorphised herd herbivores for uniquely human and thus opportunistic, tribal and predatory traits. The meaning goes missing, even if all the elements bar the human one are still there.

Also, I thought that post (along with others) had been trimmed from the thread by a mod edit or somesuch, as I couldn't see it in the last 2 or 3 pages, as the topic has moved on more than I anticipated so I apologise for any redundant points.

 

[PirateRose]

You know, the most I've run into the MLP stuff is 1. In the toy section of a retail store & 2. When people complain about the fans.

I must be visiting the right websites.

 

[BiscuitTrouser]

Yet another "I hate MLP" thread. You do realise that these vastly outnumber the actual fan threads don't you? You might be sick of it but I'm getting pretty sick of the hatedom getting shoved down my throat too! Darwin above, the "haters" seem to talk about it more than the fans.

We get it, you don't like a kids cartoon stop yammering on about it.

People take a special pride in disliking or openly hating popular things. They might not hate it BECAUSE its popular but it basically calculates as.... wait lemme write you an equation.

Pride = (How popular it is) * (intensity of the dislike)

And we know pride is proportional to probability of sharing this opinion on the internet. As such youll find more threads asking why MLP is so liked or whats wrong with MLP than you do real threads about it.

Im utterly indifferent. There are several million shows i dont watch and love and its one of them. I can see the appeal and wont judge anyone on anything as puerile as what TV they watch. I mean come the fuck on, what matters LESS than a TV show someone likes. I say put it to rest. The hatedom has some special plinth and we need to just stop talking about the phenomenon. Yeah people love MLP. Im fanatically devoted to firefly. I just seek out firefly and manage to avoid basically all MLP. It isnt hard to avoid. And seeing it with my eyes doesn't induce instant rage because im a balanced human being...

 

[Eddie the head]

I think you meant to quote the guy I was. You seam to be talking like I said it was good, and I didn't. I think I said something like " Just adding the MLP people to a subject doesn't make it better and sometimes makes it worse." (originality) So yeah I agree with you, but I was talking a little bit more across the board.

Sorry, I originally intended to make a passing comment on how I agreed that I don't get its appeal and then move on, but I guess I missed it out by mistake. Also my compliments on name & avatar, up the Irons.

Ahh I see. Also thanks, Up the Irons. I use this name whenever I can get it.

 

[level27smartass]

No its a good show and makes me happy.

Spoiler

The butt-hurt is entertaining too

 

[MrHide-Patten]

Eh, will admit i kinda stayed off deviantart a bit for a while due to all the MLP spam, but really i ignore it because it will die out sooner or later and its still not as damaging for people to like as twilight.

I really wish they would implement some kind of filter, exclude certain pieces that have certain keywords. Probably wouldn't have unwatched Slugbox for it.