Anyone joining the military?

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LaramFox

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thedeathscythe said:
Hahaha, fair enough man, both those things were bugging me, but you answered them both! Now it all makes sense :D
Aye.. I'm Still Half Asleep.. Sorry... Maybe I Should Drink More Dr Pepper To Wake Up.. XD

Glad I Could Answer Your Questions... Sorry I Caused The Need For Them In The First Place.
 

Rawne1980

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Spent 12 years in the British Army and I loved every second.

I'm not going back though, got used to the "easy life" now.
 

BryceS62

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I plan to join the Royal Australian Army Reserves essentially Like joining the army except i get to pick where I'm stationed
 

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Sizzle Montyjing said:
No.
You will never ever catch me joining the military.

All this stuff about 'Honour' and 'Serving your country' is bullshit.
Besides, it's going to be more glaringly obvious that all these wars are fought for is oil...
Where's the oil? "These wars" were not started over oil. If they were, we'd have oil pouring out our fucking ears. The war in Afghanistan was a direct result of the 9/11 attacks. American's doing the world a favor by taking care of that piece of shit country. The war in Iraq was about neo-conservative nonsense,turning the region into a pro-US democratic mini west and all that horseshit. I wish the Iraq war was about oil. That's clarity of thought I can get behind. Go in there take their shit and get out. That is why you start wars.
 

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And the flaming begins...

OT: Yes, I'm leaving for USAF basic training on January 3rd.
 

Sizzle Montyjing

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TorqueConverter said:
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Are you trying to justify war?
Because let me tell you, that isn't going to work on me.

Maybe not all modern wars are based on oil (i never said that if you actually listened), but i bet you that oil is on the minds of our leaders, hell, when we bombed Libya, what do you think was going through our leaders minds?

Also, one more thing: Just because you've seen something and been somewhere, doesn't mean you neccesarily understand it.
Just sayin'.
 

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I couldn't join the military even if I wanted to. Too many health problems, physical and mental. Besides, I already know how to make Thermite and a few other fun things.
 

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I couldnt join the army I dont think

and even if my could my gender would be a probelm (rather off putting after that "skype sex" scandal we had a while ago)

as far as Im concerned let the boys have thier club, killing isnt a place for PC equality (by that I mean lowering of standards and pushing for females to get in in the name of equslity) however hats off to any lady who wants to join up...
 

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The only way i am going to join the norwegian military, is if the norwegian government gets involved in a conflict worth supporting. There is actually enforced conscription for men in norway (even though norway has not been under any real military threat since the cold war), women are allowed and encouraged to join the military but are not conscripted. I strongly dislike the idea of conscription, but if you are going to do it, and claim to treat men and women as equals at the same time, as the norwegian government does, then both genders should be conscripted.

I was recently sent a form, meant to evaluate me for conscription. If it were not for terminal illnesses i would probably have to go through physical evaluation, maybe i would be conscripted.
 

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Sizzle Montyjing said:
TorqueConverter said:
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Are you trying to justify war?
Because let me tell you, that isn't going to work on me.

Maybe not all modern wars are based on oil (i never said that if you actually listened), but i bet you that oil is on the minds of our leaders, hell, when we bombed Libya, what do you think was going through our leaders minds?

Also, one more thing: Just because you've seen something and been somewhere, doesn't mean you neccesarily understand it.
Just sayin'.
I'm not trying to convince you of anything. War however is human nature. To not have war is to be inhuman. If oil was on the minds of the Bush admin then they did an awful job at getting it. Then again, it was the Bush admin after all. I personally believe they had more asinine intentions than oil. Libya is something everyone should have stayed out of. Either evade the damn place and do as you please, or leave them alone. Sanctions, air strikes and all that nonsense accomplishes nothing. This is why NATO is a joke.
 

Sizzle Montyjing

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TorqueConverter said:
Greed, Anger and Hatred are all in human nature, however war is just a bi-product of that, and isn't neccesarily part of human nature.
For instance, we all feel greed and hatred in our lives, however not all of us have ever liked the idea of war.
Does that make them in-human?
No.
That's a ridiculous thing to say.

Libya was mainly about the oil, that's why they were so interested.
Our governments don't give a fuck about these people, they just want to exploit them.
 

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I wouldn't join the military because believe it or not you aren't serving your country you are serving your government. I do not believe in this war and would not join the military because I have no say in who I have to shoot and why I have to shoot them.

While I don't disrespect soldiers at all, I live in a military community and work for the army, I don't believe that serving in the military should get you props just because you chose to do the hardest job in the world.

WW2 is different, Europe was under threat of being conquered and turned into a fascist dictatorship, those guys were serving their country because if they didnt then we were all shafted, if we werent in the middle east our country would probably have a lower threat of terrorist attack (Britain)

I respect the fact that people can do the hardest job in the world, I do not believe they are "fighting for my freedom" or "fighting for my country" they are fighting because someone has ordered them to fight and it's their job that they chose to do. No matter what they have been indoctrinated to believe.

I believe they are trying to fight for my safety but even then the fighting has probably caused more danger to my country because before we got involved in the middle east no one wanted to bomb us.

I respect soldiers individually, I respect how hard they work at a job I could not do, I respect that their job is so hard they could die. I do not automatically respect them because they chose that profession.

It is not an honour to be in the military it is a hard job. I also thing it's a travesty that my countrymen are being killed to "liberate" other countries and fight illegal wars on dubious intelligence and for dubious reasons.
 

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I joined the US Navy back in February, and got kicked out 5 weeks later. Amount of BS that I was told by my recruiter(s) is just amazing.

Word of advise to those interested, pick an MOS that you want and don't try and use it as a stepping stone, or you'll end up like me trying to get all this BS off your record.

It's also becoming a pain in the ass for me to get into the National Guard...
 

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Guffe said:
Sharkeyes said:
Likewise if there's any non-US posters are you joining your nation's military?
It's kind of hard not to for me. I live in Finland and every male (unless you have some disease that stops you from joining) must join the army for a minimum of six months to learn the basic military combat stuff. Every half year (January and July) new reqruits get in and half of them will be there for 6 months while the other half will be there for 1 year (they become "under sergeanter" which I believe is called Last Corporal (not sure spelling is correct) in the US) and they get the training of a group-chief. I have been there for 10 months and got promoted to Sergeant a few weeks ago.
So basically a bit under two months left and I applied for a 6 month job there so I can get some money before I go of studying (not going to go to the military academy).
And my main weapon is the Mortars!
There you go, I hope you learned something today :)
They used to recruit for 1-2 years military service all around europe lol :p

TorqueConverter said:
The war in Afghanistan was a direct result of the 9/11 attacks. American's doing the world a favor by taking care of that piece of shit country.
Because aggrevating people with a compleatly diffrent culture and quite a bit of them ready to suicide bomb and terrorise Western Europe and the USA is a good idea amarite?
 

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The_Emperor said:
I agree with you, don't respect the job so much as I do the soldiers. I know far more often than not there's a shit load of them who don't deserve the respect they receive because of their chosen vocation. In the same breath, there is also heaps of them to receive more grief than they should for their chosen job.

imahobbit4062 said:
Affirmative. I'm joining the Royal Australian Army as a Rifleman in August (I'm joining up with a mate, and I have to wait until then) not as an officer though, I don't want that responsibility just yet. I want to have experience before I have to lead.
Fuck, that's unlucky ;)

ruthaford_jive said:
As someone currently in the military, I can't wait to get out. I hate this shit. I wasn't always like this, but after my injury and seeing another side of the whole thing, I can tell you first hand it's one of the most backward ass organizations I've ever been a part of. I could go on, but I won't.

Some people like it, and more power to them I guess, but I've realized by this time me and the army don't go together well. My only advice is to learn to deal with an obscene amount of BS and shut off your mind for a few years, and you should be fine.
Ahaha, love it. that sounds like most people I know to be honest

BryceS62 said:
I plan to join the Royal Australian Army Reserves essentially Like joining the army except i get to pick where I'm stationed
No, it's essentially nothing like the ARA, don't let anyone tell you any different.

Vault101 said:
I couldnt join the army I dont think

and even if my could my gender would be a probelm (rather off putting after that "skype sex" scandal we had a while ago)

as far as Im concerned let the boys have thier club, killing isnt a place for PC equality (by that I mean lowering of standards and pushing for females to get in in the name of equslity) however hats off to any lady who wants to join up...
To be honest, even if I were one of the females who was up to the role of being part of the infantry, I wouldn't want to join it. It's a huge boys club, more than most people can understand I think. It's not going to change just because women are allowed to join. Regardless of how I feel about the matter, that's the way things are.
 

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Sizzle Montyjing said:
TorqueConverter said:
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Are you trying to justify war?
Because let me tell you, that isn't going to work on me.

Maybe not all modern wars are based on oil (i never said that if you actually listened), but i bet you that oil is on the minds of our leaders, hell, when we bombed Libya, what do you think was going through our leaders minds?

Also, one more thing: Just because you've seen something and been somewhere, doesn't mean you neccesarily understand it.
Just sayin'.
Possibly in the US. Currently, the UK gets about 2% of it's oil form the middle east. 75% of it comes from Norway, and we pipe a good lot of it purselves. The US gets much more oil from Saudi Arabia, almost a million barrels a day.

Anyway, I would love to join the RAF, but an operation that fused my spine with a titanium rod has stopped me from doing so.
 

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Did 4 years and got out. Not sure I'd go back if I could...There's another person involved pretty deeply in my life now, and I'm not sure I'd want to put him through that.
 

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I plan to enlist in the U.S. Army after college, that way I can become an officer as I'll have a degree.

I wanted to do ROTC, but this school is insane, at first they said they had it, then the Admissions people said they didn't, then an alum told me they did ROTC at this school a few years ago...

But things should still work out as long as I have a degree and keep with my plan to get into better shape. I'm a decent weight according to the doctor, but I need to tone things from fat to muscle.