Apple Brainwashes Gay Cure App from iTunes

[omicron1]

Stuff!

The slippery slope doesn't apply? It's reached its logical conclusion (or part thereof) already in Canada and Britain - where reading portions of Romans on the airwaves (I assume on a Christian channel) can get you in legal trouble; where pastors can be arrested for preaching against homosexuality; and where just a month ago a Christian couple were barred from adopting a child because of their beliefs.

 

[Fieldy409_v1legacy]

whats to bet the app is a slideshow of naked jessica alba pics?

 

[alinos]

Eh, apples store, apple can choose what to host.

Although removing something simply because it might offend people is just silly >.> Grow up guys

Why do you think they removed random games with pornstars that weren't even nude, because some christian searched for more pictures found porn and was offended

 

[justnotcricket]

I guess I agree with the comment about how it has a right to be there, but not with an inflammatory, judgemental title. I can't at this moment, think of how they could title it that *didn't* appear inflammatory or judgemental, but if you're going to climb up on the 'free speech' horse, then...

 

[Dogstile]

Eh, apples store, apple can choose what to host.

Although removing something simply because it might offend people is just silly >.> Grow up guys

Why do you think they removed random games with pornstars that weren't even nude, because some christian searched for more pictures found porn and was offended

Proving my point that its silly.

Eh, I don't do apple products anyway, but they just seem like one big mess

 

[FaithorFire]

I understand the sentiment for wanting this app removed, but I am really uncomfortable with how little Homosexuals or Liberals or Atheists think of free speech when the enemy is Christians with an obnoxious message. They could just ignore it, let the popularity of the app die, or even create an app of their own to mock it or prove the opposite point. But no. The solution to to protest and petition until their enemy is silenced. I don't like that approach.

 

[Unesh52]

Canada and Britain

Not America. I don't know anything about the state of religious tolerance in other countries, but here, it's numero uno on the big list of shit you're not allowed to fuck with. You're honestly suggesting that Apple's decision to stop carrying an unpopular app is going to lead to a revolution, a complete reversal actually, in constitutional law. Scalia would laugh you out of the room at the merest idea!

Honestly, this kind of reactionary bull is as crazy as that nonsense about putting up non-religious billboards being "militant Atheism." The public reaction to this was a bit silly, admittedly, but Apple only did what any reasonable business would do when people are talking about getting rid of their iPhones [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNZxOk_bC64] over it (~2:40). I was no more a declaration on their support of homosexuality than Angry Birds is a declaration of their opposition to pigs. This isn't an encroachment on the right to freedom of speech any more than telling a man who's just ejaculated on you in a subway station to fuck right off is. The constitution does not falter in the face of an angry petition, and it certainly isn't going to discriminate against religious adherents when you pretty much have to be a Christian to be in any position to change it.

 

[Unesh52]

I understand the sentiment for wanting this app removed, but I am really uncomfortable with how little Homosexuals or Liberals or Atheists think of free speech when the enemy is Christians with an obnoxious message. They could just ignore it, let the popularity of the app die, or even create an app of their own to mock it or prove the opposite point. But no. The solution to to protest and petition until their enemy is silenced. I don't like that approach.

I agree.

 

[skywalkerlion]

TIEM 4 FLAME CHRISTIANS TIEM

I'm sure my fellow religious escapists can back up that there aren't too many idiots that think homosexuals need "cured".

 

[144_v1legacy]

Someone should tell him that they understand what he's going through, and that their "dumbass cure" app was also removed. Then further point out that it could have helped him avoid his current predicament.

 

[Waaghpowa]

Homosexuality and Religion are a choice, if someone wants to believe they can cure it let them. Curing being black is purely genetic adaptation so curing that would be slapping evolution in the faceand therefore completely wrong.

I wouldn't say homosexuality is a choice, there are plenty of gays who try to go their entire lives as an "ordinary straight person" because society tells them it's they way they should be only to realize later in life that it's not. In their case, it was their choice to try and be "straight" but eventually doing what comes naturally instead. I think the only reason people think it looks like a choice comes down to the expectations of society and their attempt to meet those expectations.

Religion isn't so much a choice either if you live in a heavily religious family who's very zealous nature is stifling and punishes them for thinking differently.

 

[Zaik]

Gays got trolled on itunes. Lol.

That's...what, half of their customers? Of course it's going to get removed, regardless of whether it was intentionally offensive or it's the usual oversensitivity.

 

[Drake_Dercon]

Why?

Because it would be akin to me "debating" with someone that the surface of the sun is warmer than my living room. The opposition's viewpoint doesn't matter because it is factually incorrect. There are no pros and cons to be discussed, there are no issues to be weighed. We're not discussing foreign policy here, one side is just suffering from a delusion.

Homosexuality isn't a medical condition, it's a life choice

Perhaps you've just poorly worded this, but people do not choose to be gay in the way this reads.

"One Side is suffering from a delusion"? If someone stated that the surface of the sun was not warmer than your living room, you should have no problem presenting evidence counter to them. That is my ultimate point in all this. Why is it that anyone can decide that an issue is not up for debate?

There is a difference between a celebration of diversity, offering nothing against anyone and hate speech. I refer to it with such strong phrasing because of the great number of suicides that have been caused by such a mindset.

An app such as this only serves to propagate that mindset or piss of the people that think it will, either way, there is no positive effect to having an object of discrimination appear in a privately owned store with clear rules against it (and I will debate you that). Apple has the right to refuse anything they want to and if a cure heterosexuality app appeared I'd support their removal of it as well. This is worse, however, because people have killed themselves over the idea that homosexuality should be repressed and "cured", if possible. It should be made very clear that society as a whole does not tolerate hatred towards any group, regardless of your opinion (honestly I don't see why there are christians saying homosexuality is wrong, but that's another topic; suffice to say that I did some research out of curiosity once) originating in faith or otherwise.

It is your freedom to think what you think, it is your freedom to speak what you will. It is not your freedom to sell the cause of suicide when there is no proven productive use for it.

 

[drisky]

Eh, apples store, apple can choose what to host.

Although removing something simply because it might offend people is just silly >.> Grow up guys

Yeah this is kind of my thoughts, but apple has to protect their image so damage control is necessary before it would have blown way out of proportion. Also we know these things don't work, no one has been turned straight thorough the power of God and when you and only ends up hurting people, that in it self is a good enough reason to take it down. It can go far beyond just being offensive.

 

[Broken Boy]

Homosexuality and Religion are a choice, if someone wants to believe they can cure it let them. Curing being black is purely genetic adaptation so curing that would be slapping evolution in the faceand therefore completely wrong.

It must be nice to have all the answers & to know everything from your extensive experience of how the world, universe & human mind works. I had no idea in all the time I have spent over the years contemplating these very subjects that I had a choice not to be Bisexual.

Now that aside in my opinion sexual preference is no more a choice than being able to pick the color of your skin. Just because you were curious at one time & you satisfied your curiosity & decided to be straight. You presume that it is a choice for everyone. I find this kind of funny actually & a bit sad but that is just the way I am.

Don't get me wrong everyone if free to express what they believe in my opinion.

That being said yes I did go off on a bit of a tangent at the beginning of this post but at the time I was a little miffed. Now having time to think about it I will apologize for that but I won't remove it. I'm not looking to start a flame war here. I just could not let this go.

 

[pwnzerstick]

I always love how oragnizations like this say that they want equal rights to take away the rights of other people.

 

[freakonaleash]

Is Greg Tito American? Because i've never heard an American say bollocks...

 

[Axelhander]

There are opinions and there are facts.

The following are facts:
- There's evidence both for and against homosexuality being a choice.
- REGARDLESS of the above, homosexuality is NOT wrong and, in and of itself, causes NO harm.

The following is an opinion:
- People who hate homosexuality are likely blaming it for an inability or unwillingness to solve problems in their own lives, and they should find more constructive ways to deal with those issues than making crap up.

 

[mikespoff]

"Ultimately, this issue comes down to what we, as a culture, believe about equality and the freedom to express our beliefs," said Chambers.

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Whether you think homosexuality is wrong or not is up to you, but asserting that it is something which can or should be "cured" is just bollocks.

"Just bollocks" is hardly a well-argued rebuttal to an important issue. The question is one of free speech - will you let other people express their opinions even if you don't agree with them? The developers of that app weren't insisting that it come standard on every phone or that everyone in the world be forced to use it. They were expressing their opinion: that homosexuality is a choice, and that they believe it's a bad choice.

Whether you or I agree with that opinion does not diminish their right to hold it. If they start beating gays in the street it would be a different issue, but as it stands it's an issue of free speech and the right to hold and express opinions. Are you so intolerant that you can't abide anyone who disagrees with you?

 

[funkzillabot]

Is he kidding? Alan Chambers is as "Gay" as the day is long. But isn't that always the way. He's found god or whatever, now he wants to help other Gay men "cure" their homosexuality, too. That is just so freaking stupid. Seriously, this guy is so far back in that closet his ass will end-up in the "Land of Narina".

This guy is a dick. The "Gay Cure", what the fuck? You cannot "cure" being Gay "A-hole". That is you personal, self-righteous, opinion. Just like my personal opinion is? that you're in denial about who you really are and should maybe talk to someone about YOUR PERSONAL issues of a sexual nature. Okay.