Apple Voted Largest Influence On Gaming Industry

Electric Alpaca

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brainslurper said:
Nintendo WAS a frontrunner, before they were rehashing old games on a crappy console.
I don't normally bite to this sort of thing, but oh well:

When talking about something in general, you're talking about it 'as a whole'. So an average. Over the entirety of the history of gaming, Nintendo are the forerunners.

Your own personal feelings on Nintendo's console doesn't mean it's 'crappy' - it was groundbreaking, in fact, the last three consoles they've made were gamechanging.

Steve created a fashion accessory and strong firmware (if you can count him saying to R&D, 'build it better' as input) to further boost the casual gaming boom - a market tapped by Nintendo and PopCap.

brainslurper said:
So much hate flowing against Steve. While I would have put gaben ahead of him, there is no reason to say "Steve Jobs never did anything for the games industry" when that obviously isn't true. Say steve never invested in the iPhone, and didn't create the two largest digital distribution markets known to man. You know where bungie started making games? The spiritual predecessors to halo were exclusively on mac. Think about how much halo has influenced gaming today.
Saying Halo influenced gaming is a bit strong. It influenced the FPS genre, but not gaming as a unit.

If Steve hadn't done it, Google and Android would have. Microsoft would have. As good as the iPhone is - it isn't the precipice some claim it to be.
 

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Electric Alpaca said:
brainslurper said:
Nintendo WAS a frontrunner, before they were rehashing old games on a crappy console.
I don't normally bite to this sort of thing, but oh well:

When talking about something in general, you're talking about it 'as a whole'. So an average. Over the entirety of the history of gaming, Nintendo are the forerunners.

Your own personal feelings on Nintendo's console doesn't mean it's 'crappy' - it was groundbreaking, in fact, the last three consoles they've made were gamechanging.

Steve created a fashion accessory and strong firmware (if you can count him saying to R&D, 'build it better' as input) to further boost the casual gaming boom - a market tapped by Nintendo and PopCap.

brainslurper said:
So much hate flowing against Steve. While I would have put gaben ahead of him, there is no reason to say "Steve Jobs never did anything for the games industry" when that obviously isn't true. Say steve never invested in the iPhone, and didn't create the two largest digital distribution markets known to man. You know where bungie started making games? The spiritual predecessors to halo were exclusively on mac. Think about how much halo has influenced gaming today.
Saying Halo influenced gaming is a bit strong. It influenced the FPS genre, but not gaming as a unit.

If Steve hadn't done it, Google and Android would have. Microsoft would have. As good as the iPhone is - it isn't the precipice some claim it to be.
So Apple loses credit for creating the digital distribution scene on mobile devices, just because Google would have done the same a couple years later? Okay, wright brothers. You guys get no credit for making the first airplane because someone else would have made one later.
 

Electric Alpaca

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brainslurper said:
So Apple loses credit for creating the digital distribution scene on mobile devices, just because Google would have done the same a couple years later? Okay, wright brothers. You guys get no credit for making the first airplane because someone else would have made one later.
Look at my original post:

Electric Alpaca said:
If talking about very recently, I'll be inclined to agree.
I agree, if talking about the very recent.

But considering Apple weren't really in the gaming scene until four years ago it would be pretty close minded to claim that they are the most influential.

You asked; what if Steve Jobs hadn't done it - and I told you. Apple's digital distribution wasn't too dissimilar to other methods, like Steam. It's relative openness is what made it flourish.

I'm sorry, you can't compare the invention of flight; to the invention of a phone more like a computer than previous phones, with slightly flashier firmware.
 

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i think that while Apple has been a major influence in gaming for the past few years, to credit Steve Jobs as the biggest influence EVAR seems a bit of a blasphemy. Now adays you can get some pretty fun games on an I-product, but in the 90's you would have been hard pressed to find a Triple-A game that would run on a Mac. Dare i call Apple's rise in the world of gaming (mind you, gaming =/= technology) a phase? ...Yes, or atleast until we get our holo-decks.
 

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misterprickly said:
Can you smell bullshit?
'cause I sure do!

Steve Jobs was nothing more than a modern age "snake oil" salesman.



The high-tech huckster promised nearly everything and gave next to nothing.

Have you checked out the new iPhone... 10% better than the last version and STILL can't run flash!
Oh my fuck. You people have been dismissing the iPhone for years simply because it doesn't run flash, and Apple has explained constantly why they don't want flash on iOS, because it is a resource hogging battery waster, that was never intended for touch devices and is outclassed in nearly every way by HTML5. Also, the new iPhone is 200% faster then the iPhone 4 in CPU strength, and 700% faster in graphics performance, putting it on par with the PlayStation Vita.
 

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I believe it.

In the year 2011 I have only bought 7 video games, and there are 3 coming out that I want.

I've bought more than 7 games on my iPod in the past month, and downloaded well over 10 for free.

People can try to cover their ears and yell "la la la la la" on the matter all they want, but the app store and iDevices have taken a huge step forward in the gaming community. And a lot of the easy to pick up and play casual games have attracted a wider audience to the hobby (yes, gaming is a hobby, not a lifestyle)

If any company has taken any monumental steps forward in gaming recently, it's been Apple.

EDIT: and since I'm sure someone is going to accuse me of it. No, I'm not a mac fanboy. I'm typing this on a PC, I don't own an iPhone, and I think the iPad is stupid. I own an iPod Touch for gaming, and that's it.
 

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Oh I can see the HUH!?!

Whosa!.....Whatsa!!!....

o_o

REALLY?!?! Oh come on people! iphone is to games what the wii is to fun.

Nintendo and Sega made games what they are today. If it weren't for the 80's videogame craze and these two behemoths (at the time mind you) going toe to toe then games wouldn't be anywhere near where they are today.

I'm so tired of Steve Jobs getting sainthood just because a bunch of fanboys are trying one last suck up to their now deceased God....
 

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I hate to break it to the console jockeys, but anyone trying to innovate by developing games for current-gen consoles is just asking to go bankrupt. A Facebook game (Zuckerberg) or an iOS app (Jobs) is where you'll find the future of gaming.
The rather large glaring problem with your statement is that you are running a fairly huge assumption that there will only be one type of gaming in the future.

This may break a few hearts but the reality is there isn't a single platform that can do every type of game perfectly. Given that different platforms do different games better than others I see a gaming future where you are still playing games on more than just one type of platform.

Facebook games can be fun but you just can't pull off a top notch first person shooter or an MMO as massive as World of Warcraft. I just don't see a gaming future where the only type of game people want to play is a casual game on something like a phone.

Given some of the huge numbers consoles can still pull in for a big release it's far too early to be calling the death of gaming consoles. Still plenty of room in the gaming universe to pop on the X-Box 360 for a death match in the latest shooter, mine some resources on your Facebook games, and then kill a little time playing Angry Birds on the Kindle Fire.

Saying casual gaming will be the only gaming in the future because it's popular is bit like saying vampires will be the only type of undead in various forms of media because vampires have some popular movies and TV shows.
 

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I like how the PC isn't the top on this list. You simply can't even create games without them, and they were the biggest platform for games for the longest time.
 

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Yup, not like Nintendo you know gave life to the damn Western gaming world after Atari started screwing things up. Not like Shigeru Miyamoto's some giantly loved man who gave birth to Mario and Zelda, two games still seeing sequels with their characters appearing in other games. Nope, none of that matters. Because you took a poll with people who are more avid phone users then gamers.
 

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This is scary. I usually dont say that, but now i really dont want to live on this planet anymore. when iphone or apple gains any awards for being top in the industry i just have a high urge of taking up a shotgun and shooting somone.
 

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Um, What?

So if Nintendo and Sony and Microsoft didn't exist we'd still have basically the same gaming industry? Uh no, false, absolutely false, I'm not saying that Iphones haven't changed gaming, but this is like saying that BMC was the most influential manufacturer of cars because they popularized a type of small sedan.

I agree that without Angry Birds and crap like that, we wouldn't have as many little downloadable games for console and pc but it really hasn't done much for the entire industry.

They basically took flash games and made them available on your person, an idea that Nintendo took to the bank and popularized more than a decade earlier with the Gameboy

This is just silly, and sad.
 

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Glad that videogames have only been relevent for the passed 5 minutes.

Not even sure I'd discount Apple as being one of the biggest influences on videogames...popularizing the personal computer and mouse went a long way to creating the industry, I just don't see how a (popular) clone of an existing device has redefined the videogame world. The casual game scene was exploding and apple capitalized on it, nintendo surely had more to do with why it was suddenly so lucrative.

Strazdas said:
This is scary. I usually dont say that, but now i really dont want to live on this planet anymore. when iphone or apple gains any awards for being top in the industry i just have a high urge of taking up a shotgun and shooting somone.
Really? I don't see how anyone could even begin to contest that Apple are, without a close competitor the best at advertising and marketing. I've never known a company built on shamelessly copied product concepts[footnote]Apple really are built on the products from their current era, since Steve Jobs returned..they were looking like going bankrupt before that.[/footnote] with such appalling humanitarian ethics inspire such devout following among people.
 

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brainslurper said:
Oh my fuck. You people have been dismissing the iPhone for years simply because it doesn't run flash, and Apple has explained constantly why they don't want flash on iOS, because it is a resource hogging battery waster, that was never intended for touch devices and is outclassed in nearly every way by HTML5. Also, the new iPhone is 200% faster then the iPhone 4 in CPU strength, and 700% faster in graphics performance, putting it on par with the PlayStation Vita.

I know I will get warned for a low content post but...


THIS!
Actually I've been dismissing it because it's an overproduced, overpriced, over everything except dependable.

So you buy a $US 650 phone? Then what? enjoy it for a year before the new one comes out? two years? How long does it last before it dies? how long can you make it last before the screen cracks or it goes black screen or that one part doesn't respond to your touch unless you really grind your thumb into it?

It sickens me how little we hold cellphone companies responsible for the lifespan of their products, they really do expect us to get another phone every year and re-download all of the content and games.

Meanwhile think about the oldest piece of technology you own that still functions perfectly like the day you bought it, and how much did it cost you?

For me it's probably my Super Nintendo(my nintendo does not function perfectly all the time) which was $US 200 on release in 1991, that is ten dollars a year for functionality.

Consider the Xbox360, on release $US 300, that was six years ago and I hear most people have gone through two or three of them since then, so consider that's about 50-150 dollars for functionality for six years, that's abysmal compared to the Super Nintendo.

Now finally the Iphone, which can be up to $US 600 new, which many people will probably replace in a year.

I just don't think Angry Birds and INeed for Speed and being able to check my email and crap is worth it.
 

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.... the iphone.

WHAT
Have i somehow been completely unaware of the greatest portable gaming platform ever devised?
What can it do?