Apple Voted Largest Influence On Gaming Industry
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...Well the PS3 is an update and that does not transfer over to individuals sold to whereas you don't buy angry birds twice (unless your retarded). The PS3 sold 55 million units while the PS2 sold 3 times that kinda arguing that its impact diminished (Xbox 360 sold 57 million) so overall consoles lost players. Therefore the scope is wider and increasing casual games, pioneered by angry birds as opposed to the short lived reign of the consoles (with my PC gaming trodding along at a happy 100 million+).Tin Man said:
Yes they are...Michael Flick said:
88.3 million Units sold.
Not to mention the least active user group [http://www.next-gen.biz/news/nielsen-wii-has-lowest-user-activity]
Well sadly the legacy of said device saw a 33% fall in total console users when they both upgraded to the next generation. That sort of reign is known as the Alexander the Great Reign. If you think the term Alexander the Great reign is good then you don't understand your history.Michael Flick said:
If your going to play that card then we may as well dedicate the biggest impact to the creation of games to Tommy Flowers.Michael Flick said:
I'll let you do the research with that one.
Times are a changing and... people hate Microsoft, think Nintendo is a gimmick, Sony... psn... that pretty much leaves apple as the last company in any good standing.Michael Flick said:
Also apple lead the way with the ipod and then iphone which has lead to the new shapes of games on those devices, which are selling at an insanely high rate, for a lot wider audience.
I can't possibly think of how many flash games I played BEFORE the casual games came along (and I got a PC that didn't suffer frame rate drops when playing a flash game)
Thank you , Steve Jobs , for bringing me great games such as Baldur's Gate, Icewind Dale, Planescape Torment, The Elder Scrolls Series, Gran Turismo , Mortal Kombat , Quake , Doom, Half-Life , Dragon Age , Mass Effect , Fallout , Neverwinter Nights, Diablo , Guild Wars, Warcraft , Final Fantasy , Call of Duty , Halo , Resident Evil , Syberia and so many other motherfucking awesome games / series !
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...too...much...stupid...Michael Flick said:
Tommy Flowers [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Flowers]... The inventor of the worlds first (working [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Difference_engine]) computer. Colossus [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossus_computer] which solved the Germans' Enigma codes, prolonged WW2 by dealing a large blow to the Germans so we could understand their commands and ships could avoid their U boats.
Nice to see you know your history >.>
Truth be told since the PS1 there haven't been many great leaps and bounds from the makers of consoles. Most innovation has been on a part with the Developers for those consoles (derp) to which Microsoft and Sony can claim a pathetic amount of credit. The numbers of gamers on the consoles actually declined upon the upgrade to the next generations... not what I call bringing the industry forward, but the combination of mobile phones getting better and better as well as being cheaper and cheaperMichael Flick said:
Nintendo has for once and all proven its a gimmick that died, dragging its corpse along on popular franchises like Mario and Zelda (its killed off Metroid! and Sonic is a fucking zombie now, refusing to die).
Actually... no it does deserve more credit (than Microsoft ever does for the Xbox360 certainly) for the DS which started to trigger the notion of small portable devices with touch screen = good
They deserve credit for that.
Apple, and generally androids have created something that no one else has managed to do.
Something you need in the modern day... but it also can do everything else you could imagine except, cook, clean and procreate >.> (please do not stretch that statement to breaking point). Apple's iPod, iPhone and iPad... or any android phones are the ultimate platform for mass distribution of games.
The only other device that can do pretty much anything is a PC... but thats weighed to the floor isn't it
I take this kind of thing with a grain ... no, a barrel ... of salt. Your approach to reading this kind of data should be that of a music lover watching a music awards show: you know that everyone who voted on this bullcrap is ignorant and will only vote in a bumbling, sheeplike manner that is in no way indicitive of their being a competent judge.
Steve Jobs?!?!
Dude got no business riding on that list.
Jack Tretton, Sony's Village Idiot and Reggie "My body is ready" even has a better claim than that guy
If they bother to put in Steve Jobs, where is Bill Gates name?
His company created Windows and XBOX, the combined user of those "platforms" arguably eclipse Nintendo and Sony combined.
Dude got no business riding on that list.
Jack Tretton, Sony's Village Idiot and Reggie "My body is ready" even has a better claim than that guy
If they bother to put in Steve Jobs, where is Bill Gates name?
His company created Windows and XBOX, the combined user of those "platforms" arguably eclipse Nintendo and Sony combined.
You forgot the part of the article which explains how the surveys took place in an apple store.
I sure as hell do.Mike Kayatta said:
He was a great idea-man, and he knew how to sell a product, but the man said himself that, while he liked technology and had an interest in it, he wasn't capable of actually making his ideas come to life.
As I understand it, way back when they released the first Apple personal computers, before IBM came into the market, he even had the audacity to have the computer say something like "If it weren't for Steve Jobs, I wouldn't exist", and I can't imagine how pissed off the actual people who BUILT the thing must have felt when they saw him go on stage to present that product.
No I'm sorry, but I cannot agree that the iPhone and Apple is such a massive part of gaming... Of course I have a slightly conservative view on what constitutes a "gamer" and what "gaming" is, but although Apple has made simple basic (and fun, sure! They are) games available for the public to use, I do not think that the people who enjoy these games (and not much else) can be called gamer.
In the same way I don't call myself a golfer after having played a few rounds of golf... I play football now and then with friends, but I am NOT a footballer. It's not a hobby of mine, it's something that I do to pass the time when nothing else is up. I have yet to meet a "hardcore Angry Birds" gamer, it's a casual game for people not too interested, and to call yourself a "gamer" it kinda needs to be your hobby. I'm not saying you can't be a gamer if you play iPhone games and similar, plenty of my friends do, though I don't know anyone interested in games that play exclusively on the iPhone.
If a gamer is anyone who play games now and then, my grandmother is a gamer... My grandmother is NOT a gamer X3. She plays some very basic games now and then to pass the time, but it is not an interest or hobby of hers
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Off topic? I guess XD but I felt like saying it here anyway Oo.
Apple is a large part in familiarizing the general public with games, which is not bad. But what I think of as "gaming" is not something that Apple is heavily into. Their games are part of the App stream, and I think they will continue to be for a long time.
And of course Steve Jobs is more commonly known... Not because of any games though, but because he's simply a well-known person in general because of Apple and the iPod/iPhone/iPad. EVERYONE knows who he is, but it has NOTHING to do with games =3.
In the same way I don't call myself a golfer after having played a few rounds of golf... I play football now and then with friends, but I am NOT a footballer. It's not a hobby of mine, it's something that I do to pass the time when nothing else is up. I have yet to meet a "hardcore Angry Birds" gamer, it's a casual game for people not too interested, and to call yourself a "gamer" it kinda needs to be your hobby. I'm not saying you can't be a gamer if you play iPhone games and similar, plenty of my friends do, though I don't know anyone interested in games that play exclusively on the iPhone.
If a gamer is anyone who play games now and then, my grandmother is a gamer... My grandmother is NOT a gamer X3. She plays some very basic games now and then to pass the time, but it is not an interest or hobby of hers
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Off topic? I guess XD but I felt like saying it here anyway Oo.
Apple is a large part in familiarizing the general public with games, which is not bad. But what I think of as "gaming" is not something that Apple is heavily into. Their games are part of the App stream, and I think they will continue to be for a long time.
And of course Steve Jobs is more commonly known... Not because of any games though, but because he's simply a well-known person in general because of Apple and the iPod/iPhone/iPad. EVERYONE knows who he is, but it has NOTHING to do with games =3.
I think the survey was secretly funded by apple and came with free crack.
I will agree with steve jobs being influential in gaming, but not the most influential. I would put valve higher than apple. It created some of the standard baselines for shooters nowadays, as well as a pretty good engine (source engine creating half-life, CSS, Vindictus, L4D, portal, and so on). They also created steam, one of the first truly successful digital distribution platforms for gaming.
There's also microsoft, which is still the standard among OSs for laptops/desktops. They also created xbox life (Windows live doesnt exit. IT DOESNT EXIST).
Could also be given to Tim sweeney. Creator of the most prevalent gaming engine nowadays? I would definitely consider that something.
There are plenty of other things I could list, but it wouldn't be worth it.
What has apple done for the industry? They got the iphone. Yes, its a new platform that combines many of the latest and greatest gaming options. Most of what they have implemented, though, already existed. They just glued it together and said "hey, look at our innovative new product, buy it." They then charge the living hell out of people for a product that would, by any other maker, be about half the price.
Yeah, if apple is the major influence for the future, I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
I will agree with steve jobs being influential in gaming, but not the most influential. I would put valve higher than apple. It created some of the standard baselines for shooters nowadays, as well as a pretty good engine (source engine creating half-life, CSS, Vindictus, L4D, portal, and so on). They also created steam, one of the first truly successful digital distribution platforms for gaming.
There's also microsoft, which is still the standard among OSs for laptops/desktops. They also created xbox life (Windows live doesnt exit. IT DOESNT EXIST).
Could also be given to Tim sweeney. Creator of the most prevalent gaming engine nowadays? I would definitely consider that something.
There are plenty of other things I could list, but it wouldn't be worth it.
What has apple done for the industry? They got the iphone. Yes, its a new platform that combines many of the latest and greatest gaming options. Most of what they have implemented, though, already existed. They just glued it together and said "hey, look at our innovative new product, buy it." They then charge the living hell out of people for a product that would, by any other maker, be about half the price.
Yeah, if apple is the major influence for the future, I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
Oh is it April 1st already! Hahhahah! That's a good one!... Oh... you are serious... Sorry, but no. Yes the iPhone has proven that games can be done well on a nondedicated personal device, but I daresay that it is nothing absolutely ground breaking. Hell, are these people forgetting how Nintendo brought the gaming industry back out of complete ruin, or how Sega released the first console with internet access, or how Sony took CD based console gaming and made it... not suck? Sorry, but no, just because Steve Jobs died doesn't mean you have to start wanking the corpse.
The writer for this article made me laugh. He called Sega a "dying studio".L10nH3ArT said:
I'm pretty sure they've been making more money than at least Nintendo for the last 2 years...
You (and it looks like everyone else on this thread) forgot the actual graphics [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Apple_II_games]. Yes, it was preceded by a couple of dedicated video game consoles like the Magnavox, but it was an important device in the early days of home computer gaming.Doom972 said:
Perhaps neither the Apple II nor the iPhone/iPad on their own would earn Jobs a place at the top of this list. But maybe having a huge impact on the industry in both its infancy and its more recent iterations resonated with industry insiders with a sense of perspective.
I hate to break it to the console jockeys, but anyone trying to innovate by developing games for current-gen consoles is just asking to go bankrupt. A Facebook game (Zuckerberg) or an iOS app (Jobs) is where you'll find the future of gaming.
