I don't think older games are better back in the day but I do miss how quirky games were back then during the previous console generations even as recent as PS2, xbox, gamecub era. Back then I was playing super crazy and creative games that such as Katamari Damancy, No One Can Stop Mr. Misquote, The Oddworld Series and Armed and Dangerous. Now a days everyone is worried about making heroes that are badass and cool and its a rare thing to find a super crazy game out there.
Are older games better? Or is that just the Nostalgia talking?
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Developers are too focused on realism and graphics these days. That is why the games of old are still better. Gameplay was front in centre.
"What a horrible night to have a curse"Sarge034 said:
I think Super Castlevania IV is the best game ever made though. Simon's Quest kinda sucked.
OT: It's mostly nostalgia there are a lot of good games and bad games from back then like there are now.
Little of both. Older games were much more diverse. Doing tons of stuff. Whereas today we'll have massive marketing campaigns over tiny differences.
In the past I could buy a game about collecting magical cards that summoned monsters into an environment filled with them, to attack, heal my deck, or even transform me into them. And That wasn't awell known game at all.
Yet in more recent years we made a big deal about cover based combat.
In the past I could buy a game about collecting magical cards that summoned monsters into an environment filled with them, to attack, heal my deck, or even transform me into them. And That wasn't awell known game at all.
Yet in more recent years we made a big deal about cover based combat.
a lot of old games are genuinely good and often better.
The 'Extra Credits' show here on the escapist went over why some older music seems better, and this does also apply to the games themselves as well. To cut make it short, the Core Mechanics of older games are so well refined and solid. This is because often older games are little more then Just the core mechanics... they had to depend on those mechanics being good for the game to be good.
having solid core mechanics makes a game fun regardless of its age. A problem that has plauged current generation games is the focus on other attributes of a game, such as asthetics, that often leave the core mechanics of the game under developed. Seeing as how asthetics alone can sell games (see Metal Gear Solid series, Xenosaga series, recent additions to the final fantasy series, and Crysis series) many modern games have had a less weaker core mechanics.
yes, older games tend to be better.
however that doesn't mean that all old games are the best, or that new games will be craptastic...
The 'Extra Credits' show here on the escapist went over why some older music seems better, and this does also apply to the games themselves as well. To cut make it short, the Core Mechanics of older games are so well refined and solid. This is because often older games are little more then Just the core mechanics... they had to depend on those mechanics being good for the game to be good.
having solid core mechanics makes a game fun regardless of its age. A problem that has plauged current generation games is the focus on other attributes of a game, such as asthetics, that often leave the core mechanics of the game under developed. Seeing as how asthetics alone can sell games (see Metal Gear Solid series, Xenosaga series, recent additions to the final fantasy series, and Crysis series) many modern games have had a less weaker core mechanics.
yes, older games tend to be better.
however that doesn't mean that all old games are the best, or that new games will be craptastic...
We had a huge lot of "oh my god i have never seen something like that before" games from the 80s until the early 2000s. The kind of fast Technical evolution and always new possibilities are just not given any more. And you cant invent the tire a second time, real new ideas and genres wont come as frequently like we where used to.
Additionally to that and thanks to the enourmous technology behind nowadays games, the developers have costs of millions and millions to make a game, so they cant risk success for a creative idea.
Additionally to that and thanks to the enourmous technology behind nowadays games, the developers have costs of millions and millions to make a game, so they cant risk success for a creative idea.
One thing I miss most from older games is a world map. Even if you are a building-sized person lumbering around the continent, it is reassuring to see a scoop of land, the ocean and the horizon.
I think you're missing my point. I love old games, I still play Alex Kidd and the Wonder Boy series on the Wii's Virtual Console. But my point was that if you closed your eyes and pulled a NES game off the shelf at random and a PS3 game off the shelf at random and played them both, there's a much higher chance that the PS3 game is going to be more fun. There are classics on every console, but to me the real test is playing the forgotten games, the average games that never received nor deserved particular acclaim, and even the shovelware on all the various consoles and observing the overall quality of them. I think that the general quality of games is higher now than it ever has been.Zeithri said:
I return to Deus Ex every now and again to compare how it measures up to new games.
So far it wins every time.
So far it wins every time.
It's 50/50, especially for a lot of our age range, I believe. The oldest games like Pitfall and Pong weren't "great," and games didn't really become awesome until just before the NES, when you started to get stuff like Donkey Kong.
Then I think the real golden age of games ranges from the NES through the PS2, because no matter what console you had during that period of time, your system of choice had some pure gold.
Why? Because up until the last couple of years, games didn't require an absurd amount of money to produce, so instead of experimental games like Legacy of Kain, the original Silent Hill games, Kid Chameleon, the original Resident Evil, etc., all we get now are Modern Warfare clones because the industry knows they'll sell.
I think this is why the Indie Game "scene" (for lack of a better word) seems to be growing, because we're willing to sacrifice the graphics and modern standards like chest-high walls for a unique experience, like Minecraft or I MAED A GAM3 W1TH Z0MBIES 1N IT!!!1
Then I think the real golden age of games ranges from the NES through the PS2, because no matter what console you had during that period of time, your system of choice had some pure gold.
Why? Because up until the last couple of years, games didn't require an absurd amount of money to produce, so instead of experimental games like Legacy of Kain, the original Silent Hill games, Kid Chameleon, the original Resident Evil, etc., all we get now are Modern Warfare clones because the industry knows they'll sell.
I think this is why the Indie Game "scene" (for lack of a better word) seems to be growing, because we're willing to sacrifice the graphics and modern standards like chest-high walls for a unique experience, like Minecraft or I MAED A GAM3 W1TH Z0MBIES 1N IT!!!1
I just picked up Suikoden 1 on PSN (5.99 is a steal for that game) but I'm waiting until I get a PSP next week to play it. I loved that game, seriously it's my favorite RPG of all time. My brother likes turn based JRPG's and I tried to get him to download it from my acct. but he says the graphics will keep him from enjoying it. Any advice on how to get him to play it or sequels with upgraded graphics?Macedon said:
As someone who didn't grow up with games older then the previous console generation, therefore having no nostalgia glasses, I think newer games are generally better. Case in point: I preferred Twilight princess over Ocarina of time. Oot was definately amazing for it's time, but I must say Tp was more enjoyable. Tp had a much more lively world, a more engaging story, and brilliant dungeon design. I will say that the old pc games like system shock or Deus Ex look better then old console games, but I have little experience with those kinds of games. I haven't played an old game that was as fun and enjoyable as the likes of Bioshock, Mass Effect 2, and Read Dead Redemption. I believe that as the technology used to make games increases, so does the quality of the games and the standards that they are judjed by.
Older games are also better because the multiplayer aspect was a side attraction, not the sole reason the game was made. People actually made games, rather than multiplayer arenas with vague back stories.
I just enjoy older games because to me they are really fun. The only game I went back to and realized that it kind of sucked was Earthworm Jim. Why? The freaking water level.....
The older games I'm thinking of had no multiplayer unless someone was sitting beside you!The Maddest March Hare said: