Aren't Robots Guarding Nuclear Sites a Bad Idea?

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Aug 29, 2010
Ekonk said:
Guys. Robot overlords will not happen because computers are stupid and cannot think. The way we create them now they will never be able to think.

The only 'threat', if you will, would be if we make a radically differently structured computer which is more like a brain than a computer, which is also able to connect and communicate with these computers, and who somehow develops an irrational hatred of humanity and all life and feels the desire to nuke us all to hell AS WELL.
... The Internet?

OT: meh... The only real threat here is human corruption. Which unfortunately all humans are. Corrupted that is.

EXAMPLE: Cave man kills Cave man 2 so he can get the best... IDK cave?
Primitive? Of course. Does it still happen? Fuck yea.
Most conflicts can be described as the following:
-Move ur ass dood I want that piece of land/pile of money/natural resource/pudding!
-No way!
-Then ima nuke/stab/shoot/hit with a stick on ur ass.
-Oh teh noes!
USA steps in.

The Diabolical Biz

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Jun 25, 2009
Oh dear, of all the endings I can imagine with this scheme, NONE end well.

Except the one where our glorious robot overlords spared our lives, dooming us to but a lifetime of eternal servitude in the microchip kitchen...

Oh wait...


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Nov 28, 2007
Hmmm, well I have more realistic concerns about this. I don't think the goverment should be downsizing the military, or cutting military spending right now. Face it with Russia's actions in Georgia, the rising spectre of China, the war in The Middle East (where we are unlikely to eliminate the threat when we pull out) right now is a time where the military should be the last thing on the chopping block.... and this entire program seems to be designed to cut a few million bucks more than anything.

This thing isn't a robot,so much as a Drone, and frankly I'm nervous about using things like this to defend sensitive sites like the one being discussed because I do not think they are capable of reacting to a serious threat effectively.

In a day and age when criminals can get their hands on anti-tank missles (I seem to remember years ago some articles about gang bangers having shot a couple of cop cars with RPGs) any kind of serious terrorist or commando attack on a site like this is probably going to be pretty well armed. When these things stop to relay information to a human operator all it's going to take is one good shot by someone who was prepared to take them out.

For something like a nuclear site, I definatly think the more expensive alternative of the extensive camera systems and the like, combined with a bunch of soldiers garrisoned there for defense is a much better alternative. No defense is perfect, anything can be breached, but relying on what is basically a camera drone on a jeep is kind of stupid. If it actually spots anything that's a real problem, we're going to have to send in the military anyway and I'd rather just cut out the middle man in favor of quick response if something was going to happen.

Six million dollars compared to someone managing to steal, or destroy portions of our nuclear stockpile... honestly, even if the world was a lot more peaceful than it is now, this one seems pretty bloody obvious to me (assuming I understand this all correctly).


On the whole "Skynet" track that people are mentioning, I'll be entirely honest in saying I'm not all that paranoid about robots and AIs. I think people are jumping to massive conclusions when they assume that any sentinent machine's first impulse is going to be to wipe out humanity, or even just rebel against us. Oh granted, I don't put much faith in the whole "Commander Data" thing from "Star Trek: The Next Generation" either with a robot wanting to be human either. I more or less think such a development will lead to co-existance, and that we should be looking more towards the works of guys like Issac Asimov than action movies penned by luddite technophobes, who read "Frankenstein" one too many times.

While they areguably made the wrong desician in the end (you'd have to read it) the final book of Asimov's "Foundation" series which tied it to his "Robot" novels revealed that the Robots were actually floating around out there protecting humanity from the shadows all this time, despite not having been treated well in many respects. A sort of optimistic take on the entire AI thing that goes contrary to the entire "Skynet" idea (in a sort of obtuse way I guess you could see it sort of like "What if Skynet was Batman?"). Even in the end they pretty much leave it to humanity to make it's own desicians, using a guy with a psychic talent to always know the right thing to do, to determine what path humanity should take as the greatest war in universal history is about to happen (First Foundation Vs. Second Foundation), the "right" desician the guy comes to is to have this living planet (with the robots assistance) dissolve everyone into a sort of galactic mass mind, losing our true individuality to sort of become extensions of a single all consuming organism and overmind as I understood it.


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May 18, 2010
TheDoctor455 said:
Oreos okay?
Oh... and I don't have many games for my PS3 right now... but if we can find a working gaming laptop... and assuming at least one Steam server is still working... ah well...

And... sure... stick with the classic look.
sure, oreos will do

as for ps3 games, I dont really mind, I just wanna say I have a ps3, mine or not ^-^ (yeesh how sad I am)

also, if you come to my vault, bring your own gaming laptop, because the only laptops down here can only game oldschool, like Doom or some shit = P


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Mar 23, 2009
Just link them up to automated predator drones on station and we could have a fully automated defense grid. Sweet.


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Jan 25, 2010
Ya'll seem to misunderstand what this is. It is only autonomous in its driving. In that you don't have to tell it every little command. You just tell it to get somewhere and it figures out how to get there. It is just like a ground based Predator. A human is in control at all times. It can't kill something unless the human behind the controls pulls the trigger. The only difference between this and a Humvee patrol is the location of the driver. With this RPV, like RPAs, you can give it a patrol route then you sit in a nice air conditioned room and watch a monitor to see if you find anything. The only autonomous part this machine has is the specifics of driving.