Argued with a Sexist Today...

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TheDrunkNinja

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Yet another "Here's what happened to me today," thread.

I was on my college campus in what can basically be called a lounge room where people come to sit, relax, do work, hang out, all that stuff. My friends and I were hanging around when I started arguing with a friend of mine about something very minor. Now, he wasn't the sexist I'm talking about. It got to the point where I said the word "pussy", the slang word for wimp, not the cat or organ. We immediately stop when I hear some guy yelling behind me. I'm half deaf, so I turned around to see him staring at me with a freaked out face and asked him what he said.

He tells again me, "Watch your language, there are women present."

I stop for a moment, as it took me a second to understand what in the hell he meant. He says that I'm offending people and then points to one of the girls in the room, who only looked up from her book when he started yelling. That's right. He singled this poor girl out (despite there were plenty of other girls in the room, one of which was my friend who was sitting right next to me) and said that I was offending her.

Confused, she only states awkwardly, "Um, I'm alright..." It's at this point where I respond to him with the first thing that pops into my mind, "Uh, that's kinda sexist." He looks at me like he's gonna get all up in my face and says, "Excuse me?!" in a tone reflecting an adult scolding a kid for back-sass. I say again with more resolve, "That's really sexist."

We have it out, never getting out of our seats, and eventually I just turn around and ignore his attacks. Really, I get where he was coming from, and I'm sure he had fine, chivalrous intentions, but the way he went about it was extremely sexist, pure and simple. He didn't need to tell that girl what she should and shouldn't be feeling, especially since she didn't care to begin with. He shouldn't have even singled her out when there were plenty of other girls including my friend in the room. What's worse is that I was using the term in a completely different manner that had nothing to do with women in the first place, but he was the one who equated the dirty term to a woman. You had to be there, but the way he said women really perturbed me. He didn't say lady or anything that showed a hint of respect, he spoke as if she couldn't even comprehend or defend herself from my offending.

Let me just say, if she had come to me and told me that I was being offensive to her, I would have apologized without hesitation, even if I didn't exactly agree that the context of the word was offensive to her or not. Hell, if he had come up to me and spoke in a clam and considerate manner that he didn't appreciate my language, I would have readily obliged. Instead, he starts yelling at me across the room, causing utter silence as people stopped what they were doing, then proceeded to single one girl out that he didn't even know, telling me what she was feeling.

This guy pissed me off, he pissed my friends off (half of which are girls!), and I'm pretty sure he disgusted everyone who was in the room at the time based on the looks on everyone's faces.

Well, that's the end of it. Discussion value? Eh, I dunno, I just really wanted to rant about this. How about we just trade stories about our own experience with sexist douchebags?
 

Gigaguy64

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Ehh, i can understand him as well.
But he was a jerk for reacting the way he did.

It just comes from the mindset that women cant speak up for themselves, and its also some people have been raised to be extra respectful around women.
Doesn't mean they are sexist, its just the way they were raised and sometimes its hard to break habits you formed as a kid.

As for me, iv never really come across someone like that.
 

TheDrunkNinja

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Apocalypse Tank said:
so that's it? Never saw him again?
Just happened today, I'll eventually see him on campus again (small school), but I doubt that we'll exchange words with each other again. The guy was a jerk, but he'd have to have real balls to bring it up to me again.
 

molester jester

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Actually i used to know someone who would have the exact same reaction as that guy, when ever someone used the word pussy as an insult she would get incredibly offended, However she had no problem calling people a dick, I always thought that was kind of hypocritical.
 

The_Amazing_G

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Sexism is only one of the problems here. The main problem is that he was telling someone else what their opinion is.
-"you are offended by the word pussy"
-"ummmm... Not really"
-"YES! YOU ARE!!"

I hate it when people do that.

That's also why I'm not a catholic even though I go to a Catholic school... ..Dogma..
 

Benmonkey7

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I guess he thought he was being a gentleman. Are you sure this didn't happen 100 years ago when his reaction would have been normal?
 

likalaruku

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Kinda sounds like he was just looking for an excuse to argue, & by ignoring him you let him have the last word, making him the winner (at least in his own mind).

I would have provoked him intentionally by asking him if he was shitting me & then insulting everyone in the room who was offended by swearing by announcing that people who are afraid of words are f**king pansies. That's just the kind of girl I am. :D

 

TheDrunkNinja

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The Jakeinator said:
Good job! Handles it naturally, and epiclly. You won, and you proved a point.

Congrats.
Thanks, though I don't really feel like I won anything. That's the way almost all arguments go though, I just didn't want him to get away with it.
Benmonkey7 said:
I guess he thought he was being a gentleman. Are you sure this didn't happen 100 years ago when his reaction would have been normal?
Heh, trust me. My friend I told you about (the girl, not the one I initially was talking with) was making Stone Age jokes up the ass after that.
 

Necromancist

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will1182 said:
He wasn't really being sexist, he was just being an idiot. I don't think he really did anything to offend either sex. I can see where you're coming from, but that's not what I would call it.

And I applaud you for not yelling back and starting a fight like so many others would have done. I think I can see who the real gentleman was in this situation.
A-hem.

*Brushes off suit*

*Straightens tie*

Gentlemen.
 

Dango

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Most of my conversations with most of my friends. Almost all of them are douchbags.
 

coldshadow

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a co-worker of mine is quiting soon because she is sick of how our manager makes dirty jokes about her and the other girls there. I dont blame her, hes over 50 at least and has his mind in the gutter all the time.
 

TheDrunkNinja

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coldshadow said:
a co-worker of mine is quiting soon because she is sick of how our manager makes dirty jokes about her and the other girls there. I dont blame her, hes over 50 at least and has his mind in the gutter all the time.
Man, he really has no excuse. She really should report him, having to leave her job just because he can't be considerate is just wrong.

It's funny, because our two situations are like night and day different, yet they're still a form of sexism in a way.
 

thiosk

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I don't really think you had much of an argument with a sexist. I was reading some of the comments on CNN.com earlier today, and one article (having to do with Israel) a gentleman wrote how glad he was that "he had free'd himself of the oppressive western ways," and "was proud allah had blessed him with two obedient wives and six obedient children. allah akbar"

When another commenter responded at taking offence to the "two wives" part, he responded "a woman without a husband is like a dog without a master"


Now THAT, my friends, is sexist.
 

Treeinthewoods

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Ah, the White Knight phenomenon is not just restricted to the internet/online gaming.

I'll bet she didn't sleep with him either.
 

TheSentinel

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You overreacted. I don't think he was reacting to the word you used specifically, but curse words in general. See, some people feel, oh, let's say, uncomfortable cursing like a sailor around members of the opposite sex. You don't need to get up in some dudes face because he asked you to tone down your language.
 

Oilerfan92

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I had a vaguely similar situation happen back in grade 12.

It was during the Winter Olympics in Vancouver and Canada had just won Gold in both Mens and Woman's hockey. We (my social class) were discussing it and I made a comment similar to "the mens team deserves more credit because mens hockey is more competitive and difficult". I didn't mean at in a "women suck at sports" way. It's just simply true that womens hockey is at a much lower level at this point. Their skill level is at a similar level to a male junior level team (this is atleast arguable because the womens team will go against canadian junior teams and it will be even) and there are only two really competitive countries (Canada and US. This is due to womens hockey being relatively new). My point being that womens hockey is nit as high level as mens (who actually hit and are better skilled) and have to deal with playing a tournament in the middle of a 82 game season. And that while both are heroes for the country, i didn't view it as fair for two gold meddle winning teams being considered equal due to resault rather than honest ability.

I never intended or ment for it to be seen as a sexist stance. I simply saw two teams of athletes, one playing in a MUCH higher level competition than the other, therefore I felt they deserved more credit.

Naturally many people acted like I was a exist pig who hates women who step out of the kitchen. Luckily at class had ADD and quickly moved on. But still, I was pissed that being someone who will openly admit that while I was at one point somewhat prejudicial, I believe in equality and that differences between people should be ones based on personal actions, not circumstance. But because I "dissed" a group of people who just so happen to be a group that is considered discriminated against they naturally assumed I was being sexist.
 

TheDrunkNinja

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TheSentinel said:
You overreacted. I don't think he was reacting to the word you used specifically, but curse words in general. See, some people feel, oh, let's say, uncomfortable cursing like a sailor around members of the opposite sex. You don't need to get up in some dudes face because he asked you to tone down your language.
Well, he didn't really asked since he was yelling, but what really pissed me off was when he segregated this one girl he had never even met, making her and the rest of us feel really uncomfortable. And, if he was annoyed with my curse words in general, then he would have pretty much been saying that women, poor delicate souls that they are, can't handle the repugnance of a single curse word.

I dunno, either way it sounds like sexism, and it was uncalled for. Like I said, if he had come to me personally and asked me if I would be cautious with my words, I would have obliged him. That wasn't what he did. Trust me, if you know me (at least not on the internet :D) I'm the last person to get confrontational with. It would take a lot to get me to trade heated words with someone.