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I initially thought it was a glitch, but it kind of reminded me of some of the stuff MGS used to pull, so I let it go for a second. I was very glad I did. The Scarecrow levels are one of the best parts of this game. Although admittedly there are a lot of "best" parts.
 

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I genuinely loved the fact that despite the fact that Joker is the main cause for concern in this game, Scarecrow is easily the most effectual villain in the entire game, and the point where the game "glitched" and restarted I was genuinely like "The hell? I was only swinging on Gargoyles... don't do that..." then like most when the J came up instead of B I was like "Ah, right.

But that entire sequence was handled beautifully, the different caged apsects of Batmans personal psychosis was an interesting concept, especially the one that was chomping down hard on that rat...
Had me a little worried.
 

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Erzengel said:
Asehujiko said:
I use a no-intro fix so it immediately fell through.
Shitty eternal darkness ripoff remains shitty.
When you modify your game, you can screw it up. Guess what: You screwed it up. Good job. Don't blame the game for your own "shitty" modification.
Your defending of unskippable into sequences makes me think that you aren't enjoying the game either and are just trying to justify your purchase. And i didn't screw the game up, the developers screwed up by attempting to make a plot point of something completely obnoxious which shouldn't have been in the game in the first place. I wonder how much of those 9.5/10 ratings remains after the "holy crap it's the goddamn batman" hype wears off.
 

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Warning, contanins slight spoilers.


During the scarecrow sequence when the screen goes all weird, and looks like it's broke, how many of you were concidering to either shut down or restart the system?

I was so close to restart my PS3 when that happend.
Was momentarily taken aback then it was obvious what was happening.

Helped that I've played Eternal Darkness which played similar tricks.
 

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Asehujiko said:
Erzengel said:
Asehujiko said:
I use a no-intro fix so it immediately fell through.
Shitty eternal darkness ripoff remains shitty.
When you modify your game, you can screw it up. Guess what: You screwed it up. Good job. Don't blame the game for your own "shitty" modification.
Your defending of unskippable into sequences makes me think that you aren't enjoying the game either and are just trying to justify your purchase. And i didn't screw the game up, the developers screwed up by attempting to make a plot point of something completely obnoxious which shouldn't have been in the game in the first place. I wonder how much of those 9.5/10 ratings remains after the "holy crap it's the goddamn batman" hype wears off.
People like you (who hate cutscenes and story) should probably just stick to your halo3 and gears2, instead of raining upon real games for trying to immerse the player.
Go pwn some more noobs on xbl, and stay away from real games if they give you that much grief.
 

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Asehujiko said:
Erzengel said:
Asehujiko said:
I use a no-intro fix so it immediately fell through.
Shitty eternal darkness ripoff remains shitty.
When you modify your game, you can screw it up. Guess what: You screwed it up. Good job. Don't blame the game for your own "shitty" modification.
Your defending of unskippable into sequences makes me think that you aren't enjoying the game either and are just trying to justify your purchase. And i didn't screw the game up, the developers screwed up by attempting to make a plot point of something completely obnoxious which shouldn't have been in the game in the first place. I wonder how much of those 9.5/10 ratings remains after the "holy crap it's the goddamn batman" hype wears off.
Seriously? I rarely watch story sequences in a game more than once but I consider it pretty reasonably for a first play through, especially if you actually want to understand the context of the story.

Seeing as Batman is constantly 'battling' through fear gas in comics, film and the animated series the segments with Scarecrow were fantastically appropriate. Giving you an actual mechanism to battle a hallucinogen is about as Batman as you can get.

So what if it borrowed a technique from a decade old game that didn't receive the sales it deserved?
 

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CoziestPigeon said:
Asehujiko said:
Erzengel said:
Asehujiko said:
I use a no-intro fix so it immediately fell through.
Shitty eternal darkness ripoff remains shitty.
When you modify your game, you can screw it up. Guess what: You screwed it up. Good job. Don't blame the game for your own "shitty" modification.
Your defending of unskippable into sequences makes me think that you aren't enjoying the game either and are just trying to justify your purchase. And i didn't screw the game up, the developers screwed up by attempting to make a plot point of something completely obnoxious which shouldn't have been in the game in the first place. I wonder how much of those 9.5/10 ratings remains after the "holy crap it's the goddamn batman" hype wears off.
People like you (who hate cutscenes and story) should probably just stick to your halo3 and gears2, instead of raining upon real games for trying to immerse the player.
Go pwn some more noobs on xbl, and stay away from real games if they give you that much grief.
Calm down man. Don't feed the troll.
 

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I knew it was coming, because right before it starts you here a lady over the intercom ask you how the game was last night. That was just a little too suspicious.
 

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I knew it was coming. My friend said he restarded his 360 when it happened. lol.

I didn't like the scarecrow parts, they were too easy and well, kind of a waste of time to me.
 

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It didn't bother me all that much. I was expecting a scarecrow segment to come up and I just assumed it was a Psycho Mantis-esque screw-with-your-mind thing à la MGS (haven't played Eternal Darkness).
 

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I wasn't worried. I knew it was coming because I read about it on the internet, otherwise I might have gotten up to check the console.
This but if i hadn't have known, i would have raged alot, flailed my arms, hit the cat, then it would have been over, and all would just be all "eh"
 

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It put me in mind of Mantis' screenfuck from MGS, then it went into the alternate scenario from the hallucination I was like "So, Mr. Deceptive console death, we meet again"
 

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Hoppetussa said:
Same here... I thought the game glitched and started over again.
Exactly the same. Was playing on the 360 and (naturally)thought the fucker had broken - I held on for a few seconds, and just noticed the moon in the FMV, so I left it. Was worried though.
 

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Asehujiko said:
Erzengel said:
Asehujiko said:
I use a no-intro fix so it immediately fell through.
Shitty eternal darkness ripoff remains shitty.
When you modify your game, you can screw it up. Guess what: You screwed it up. Good job. Don't blame the game for your own "shitty" modification.
Your defending of unskippable into sequences makes me think that you aren't enjoying the game either and are just trying to justify your purchase. And i didn't screw the game up, the developers screwed up by attempting to make a plot point of something completely obnoxious which shouldn't have been in the game in the first place. I wonder how much of those 9.5/10 ratings remains after the "holy crap it's the goddamn batman" hype wears off.
Uh, what? Wow, your ability to jump to conclusions is on par with Superman's ability to jump tall buildings.
You can skip every cut scene, at least on the PS3 and 360. Haven't tried on the PC since it hasn't come out yet (in the states).

You press any button, a prompt appears down in the corner saying: "Skip: B" or "Skip: O". (So long as the game has finished loading the next level. Otherwise it says "Loading...". This is good, it uses cutscenes to cover loading time instead of making us sit through a stupid, static screen after the cutscene while it loads the game.)
When you press B or Circle, it skips. How is this unskippable?

My defense is of the game as the developers intended it. I use mods in many games, but in so doing I know that the game is not as the developers intended. If something goes wrong, that's my fault for using mods. As the developers for Arkham Asylum said to the pirate reporting a "bug" that is actually DRM, "The bug isn't in the game code, it's in your moral code". I may hate DRM, but this is an excellent statement.
There appears to be a bug in your ability to place blame, Mr. Obvious Troll. Apparently, you are unable to place it where it belongs: upon yourself. Even for something as simple as modifying a game. I pity you. Learn to take responsibility.

The game is awesome, Mr. Obvious Troll. Not because it's Batman. Because it's a good game. It has a story, a strong story that is told well. It has excellent gameplay that makes you feel like a Badass Normal who scares the crap out of the bad guys. They could have made the game about "Joe Schmoe, an orderly at an asylum for supervillains who somehow gets these wonderful gadgets after a patient breaks out and starts running amok on the asylum grounds" and it would have still been an awesome game.
However, if you use a mod to disable the awesomeness of the game, you can't be surprised when your game is no longer awesome. This isn't the game's fault, nor the developers'. It's yours. I guess when you watch Batman Begins you fast forward through all the "obnoxious" story and only watch the car chases and beating up of Ra's al Ghul and his minions. Again, I pity you.
 

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Erzengel said:
Uh, what? Wow, your ability to jump to conclusions is on par with Superman's ability to jump tall buildings.
So is yours and some other posters in the thread. From my stance on unskippable INTRO SEQUENCES, you two have apparently determined that i hate cutscenes and story in general(wrong), that i play gears and halo(wrong), that i play on xbl(wrong) and that i only watch movies for the fight scenes(wrong).
Erzengel said:
You can skip every cut scene, at least on the PS3 and 360. Haven't tried on the PC since it hasn't come out yet (in the states).

You press any button, a prompt appears down in the corner saying: "Skip: B" or "Skip: O". (So long as the game has finished loading the next level. Otherwise it says "Loading...". This is good, it uses cutscenes to cover loading time instead of making us sit through a stupid, static screen after the cutscene while it loads the game.)
When you press B or Circle, it skips. How is this unskippable?
Every one except for the bunch of company logos at the start. Which is exactly what my posts are about, and not the fact that the game has a story.

Erzengel said:
My defense is of the game as the developers intended it. I use mods in many games, but in so doing I know that the game is not as the developers intended. If something goes wrong, that's my fault for using mods. As the developers for Arkham Asylum said to the pirate reporting a "bug" that is actually DRM, "The bug isn't in the game code, it's in your moral code". I may hate DRM, but this is an excellent statement.
It's also a lie. Within hours of pirates reporting the bug, a patch appeared on gfwl, that, when cracked, fixed the bug. They just chose to be assholes towards their free QA team and say "honestly, we had it under control all the time and you are evil" instead of having to admit that piracy prevented them from a massive failure at launch.

Erzengel said:
There appears to be a bug in your ability to place blame, Mr. Obvious Troll. Apparently, you are unable to place it where it belongs: upon yourself. Even for something as simple as modifying a game. I pity you. Learn to take responsibility.
Even without the no-intro ix, it still would have failed because i have a Logitech G15 keyboard, which has a small LCD screen that can be set to monitor performance and playign a video rarely takes more then 5% CPU power, as opposed to regular gameplay which takes 10 times more. Apparently i am not playing the game as intended by having the wrong keyboard. Oh, wait, i don't, it's just rocksteady trying to port a gameplay mechanic to the PC with no alterations whatsoever in a state where it only works on consoles.

Erzengel said:
The game is awesome, Mr. Obvious Troll. Not because it's Batman. Because it's a good game. It has a story, a strong story that is told well. It has excellent gameplay that makes you feel like a Badass Normal who scares the crap out of the bad guys. They could have made the game about "Joe Schmoe, an orderly at an asylum for supervillains who somehow gets these wonderful gadgets after a patient breaks out and starts running amok on the asylum grounds" and it would have still been an awesome game.
Funny how you are accusing me of being a troll while in the same sentence trying to pass of your opinion as a fact.

Erzengel said:
However, if you use a mod to disable the awesomeness of the game, you can't be surprised when your game is no longer awesome. This isn't the game's fault, nor the developers'. It's yours. I guess when you watch Batman Begins you fast forward through all the "obnoxious" story and only watch the car chases and beating up of Ra's al Ghul and his minions. Again, I pity you.
What was so awesome about the Eidos logo that the game shoves in my face every time i start it? Again, you seem to be talking about something completely different then me.
 

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Asehujiko said:
So is yours and some other posters in the thread. From my stance on unskippable INTRO SEQUENCES, you two have apparently determined that i hate cutscenes and story in general(wrong), that i play gears and halo(wrong), that i play on xbl(wrong) and that i only watch movies for the fight scenes(wrong).
Yes, I find it reasonable to assume that if you don't want to view the story intro (as you indicate, I explain this later) that you don't want to watch the story. I then use a bit of hyperbole to show how I find that stupid by pointing out its equivalent in movies. I do not make any other assumptions, such as what games you play or consoles you use (I would assume PC because you are using a mod, which is significantly more difficult on consoles. I also fought my assumption that you are a pirate for playing the game before it comes out in the states; you could be in Europe, where it's released. So I refrain from calling you a pirate and making any such assumptions).
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It's also a lie. Within hours of pirates reporting the bug, a patch appeared on gfwl, that, when cracked, fixed the bug. They just chose to be assholes towards their free QA team and say "honestly, we had it under control all the time and you are evil" instead of having to admit that piracy prevented them from a massive failure at launch.
As I said, I don't have the PC version, because I'm not pirating it and I live in the states. Therefore, I cannot have the PC version.
As such, I didn't know that. If what you say is true, then I was wrong about it "not being a bug". However, I still like the statement, even if given in error.
Asehujiko said:
Funny how you are accusing me of being a troll while in the same sentence trying to pass of your opinion as a fact.
I'm not the one accusing you of being a troll. That was actually Nimbus.
Which part of that quote do you have trouble with? That I feel that the story and gameplay work just as well if it's not Batman? Or that I feel it is unnecessary to openly state that a post is an opinion, when I express agreement with Nimbus's opinion that you are acting in a trollish fashion and then expressing my opinion of the game?
Just because you are unable to understand that posts on the internet are by their nature opinions? I pity you.
Asehujiko said:
Even without the no-intro ix, it still would have failed because i have a Logitech G15 keyboard, which has a small LCD screen that can be set to monitor performance and playign a video rarely takes more then 5% CPU power, as opposed to regular gameplay which takes 10 times more. Apparently i am not playing the game as intended by having the wrong keyboard. Oh, wait, i don't, it's just rocksteady trying to port a gameplay mechanic to the PC with no alterations whatsoever in a state where it only works on consoles.
What? So what if you have a keyboard that monitors CPU power? The fact that it didn't show a change in the CPU is just as much a hint as the various others they left around in the "glitch". For example, the gas effect from the vents continues to play even while it's "glitching", while in reality it would be frozen. A new sound effect plays, when in reality it would be a skipping record. The game "restarts", while on the 360 the console would restart to the dashboard and on the PS3 it would restart to the XMB. So what if you have hints? That's an intended effect. You're "supposed" to see the screen fritz out, go "oh crap", then, in your case, look at the keyboard and say "what a second... Whew!"
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What was so awesome about the Eidos logo that the game shoves in my face every time i start it? Again, you seem to be talking about something completely different then me.
Indeed, you were unclear. When you said "intro", I thought you meant "introductory cutscene", as in the part that occurs after you select "new game", not the "company logos" that appear before it shows the "splash screen" followed by the "main menu". After all, you were saying that with the "no intro" mod it "fell through" when you reached the cutscene we're talking about. Specifically you said:
Asehujiko said:
I use a no-intro fix so it immediately fell through.
That sounds like you lost your cutscenes, or at least the "intro" cutscenes. This is what I find abhorrent. Not getting rid of the corporate logos; getting rid of the story cutscenes. This is what I feel means that you did something "shitty" (by your words) and are now trying to pass the blame off to the company instead of accepting responsibility for your own stupidity. When the game "glitches" it doesn't show the corporate logos, it shows the jokerified intro sequence. If you miss this because of your "no-intro fix", I'd say that's not a fix, but a break.
 

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Erzengel said:
Wait, by 'Intro Sequences' you don't mean the first cutscene of the game? That's what most people would be referring to with that phrase.

Why?

Because most people don't get so antagonised by a series of corporate logos that they feel they have to go out of their way to remove them. I have never heard anyone use that phrase to describe a display of logos, because no one else cares. Oh no! The game is shoving a corporate logo in my face! For less than five seconds! How dare they! It's almost as if Eidos played a major part in the development of the game.

It's obvious that the first guy who assumed you must be a brainless moron who hates story was wrong, but you must have incredibly little patience or a hatred for big businesses that is far beyond that of any sane man.