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Yup I now EXACTLY the type. They were the first ones in line to show up to the KKK rally at the local court house here.
Armed civilian, 17, shoots 2 dead during Kenosha happening
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A single piece of good news, the cops will not deputize the murderers.
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‘Oh Hell No': Kenosha Sheriff Says Vigilante Group Asked Him to Deputize Them
Armed citizens have been taking to the streets of Kenosha during unrest in the city following the police shooting of Jacob Blake and some have even asked the county sheriff to deputize them, Kenosha County Sheriff David Beth said. Beth, speaking during a press conference Wednesday, said he...
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That is why I say we have to go after the source of the propaganda and stop BSing around about it as we have been. If we have to call up the national guard to protect the election process so be it. It wouldn't be the first time we have had to call in the guard to deal with asshole rednecks. Remember when the guard had to be called in to walk kids to school to protect them from these types?
Think about how sad and screwed up someone has to be to threaten and target CHILDREN. So many kids and their parents were still too terrified to send their kids or go, and who can blame them?
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So he declined to deputize them, but then didn't tell them that the best way they could help was by going home or start checking ID's? We are supposed to give him credit for that or something?A single piece of good news, the cops will not deputize the murderers.
‘Oh Hell No': Kenosha Sheriff Says Vigilante Group Asked Him to Deputize Them
Armed citizens have been taking to the streets of Kenosha during unrest in the city following the police shooting of Jacob Blake and some have even asked the county sheriff to deputize them, Kenosha County Sheriff David Beth said. Beth, speaking during a press conference Wednesday, said he...
He said they shouldn't be breaking curfew, so that's something.
Yeah they're not militia, they're just calling themselves that.
Anytime you hear " American militia" in modern context it ALWAYS means these guys. Otherwise they call or refer to them as " the guard" ( Either state or national) defined by their state.
Yeah, you'd be in trouble for that in the UK, as it would be deemed to be looking for a fight. The guiding principles in the UK are a) that you should not start or encourage confrontation, and b) you should use reasonable force. There is also a distinction between defence of property and defence of oneself. There's more latitude in self-defence (including defence of others) than defence of property.
Defence should be "honest and instinctive", so if you are deemed to have prepared a weapon, you are likely to be in trouble, whereas if your access to a weapon is incidental, you should be okay. So for instance if you have a baseball bat in your house but no reasonable explanation for why (like, no-one plays or ever has played baseball in your household) and you use it on a burglar, you're liable to be charged. If you play baseball, however, you could justify why you would have a bat lying around. If you use a kitchen knife, but were not in the kitchen nor could get to the kitchen during the incident, you'd be at risk of being charged. Cynical police advice would be to buy something like a heavy table lamp, because even if you'd totally bought it in case you wanted to hit an intruder with it, there's very little chance a court could prove it beyond reasonable doubt (except for your own confession) and so wouldn't even bother. Do not use disproportionate force. If the intruder/attacker flees, do not pursue or further attack them. The police are sympathetic to defence of self and home, but if you do inflict critical injury or death on an intruder, they will have to look into it.
When it comes to defence of one's property, the UK law is at the restrictive end and I don't necessarily think that's inherently "better". I see these laws more as "horses for courses": other countries may have looser laws which are better suited to their circumstances, challenges and public attitudes.
What I absolutely do think is that if you knowingly, voluntarily, and unnecessarily walk into an area of public disorder with a weapon, you can argue about your rights to be in a public place and your rights to self-defence all you like, but if you end up killing someone with that weapon, you deserve very little sympathy from the law or society.
Good. As should be expected! Anyone who defends the horrific crime shooting unarmed, peaceful protestor, don't deserve to be called good or human. You know what, there are some humans worse than demons. Well kid, I hope it was fucking worth it for you, because your ass will never see daylight again beyond prison walls. He ain't gonna be put in general population, the prisoners will fuck him the first chance. What kind of fucked up person you have to be crossing 3 state just to kill people for having a goddamned opinion?! I do want the national guard here, but only to protect the sensible, peaceful people, and to preven shit like this from happening.A single piece of good news, the cops will not deputize the murderers.
‘Oh Hell No': Kenosha Sheriff Says Vigilante Group Asked Him to Deputize Them
Armed citizens have been taking to the streets of Kenosha during unrest in the city following the police shooting of Jacob Blake and some have even asked the county sheriff to deputize them, Kenosha County Sheriff David Beth said. Beth, speaking during a press conference Wednesday, said he...
Maybe. It seems more than likely, but I don't think anyone would be amazingly surprised if that didn't happen.
Another spoilt privelidged bootlicking white boy gets to keep his life after committing literal murder in front of the police while black people are still being gunned down for fuck all, how anyone refuses to see the problem by this point must be more than comfortable living with it. Closet accelerationists at best.
Is there any video of the first shooting?
Edit: Ah, I think I found it. So he was being chased by a guy that threw a molotov cocktail at him, after which Rittenhouse shoots him.
My cynical friend advised a Maglite torch; you know the kind that takes like four D cell batteries and is made almost entirely out of steel. After all, what sensible home owner doesn’t own a torch?
I wonder if that'll change anybody's mind? The shooter fired in self-defense after being assaulted with a deadly weapon? Probably not.
From what I've seen. The kid exercised amazing restraint. He only shot people attempting to attack him even with all those people around that he could have started shooting if he'd lost his head and thought they were also after him.
Because it reeks of bullshit. Like, if it had been a rock, or even just a plain bottle I could see it, but the fact that people want to go around calling it specifically a "molotov cocktail" makes it seem like they are trying to justify the murders. Plus, having seen a video that looked like the immediate aftermath of this first shooting shows the shooter pretty much right next to the guy he shot in the head either means a) our guy with the "cocktail" tried to set someone on fire literally right next to them or b) our brave murderer, upon having something thrown at him, proceded to whip around and start blindly firing into a crowd.
There's no "seeming" to it. People who say this shit literally are trying to justify the murders. The past 4 years have made it abundantly clear that the modern right wing thinks that violence against people lawfully exercising their first amendment right to protest is morally and ethically acceptable.
Enough to not travel 3 states over looking for a fight?
Then you should be really impressed by my retraint: I've never crossed a state line to shoot anybody.
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