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the rye

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I don't think you can fairly weigh one against the other, they're too diffrent in so many ways.
 

Jedoro

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Island said:
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LifeCharacter said:
Mythbusters has shown just how beautiful science can be, and art rarely has explosions.
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Art isn't as fun.
so video games, comic books, movies, novels, and this website are not as fun?
Video games take the science of computers to create, don't read comic books, movies take good science for CG and special effects, novels take science to print, and this website uses science to run.

To simplify my point, assuming I had the supply, ask me whether I'd rather spend an hour on the Escapist or an hour throwing frag grenades in the woods. I'd be out there in a heartbeat, science is just more fun.
 

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I would just like to say that, aside from some people who would rather turn this detbate into an argument on the validity of terms, it's showgin quite a brighter side of this forum's posters.

That's really great.

MaxwellEdison said:
Scientific curiosity and a creative spirit are the two things that define humanity, there's not a choice here that I can imagine making.

More to the point, why would we have to choose?
Because some people like to think about the world of "this vs that", whici is much easier than to see how the brightes artistas and scientists actually imagine it, as a universe fill with most diverse colors, sounds and ultimately vibrations.

False dichotomies [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma] are very damaging to intelligent conversations, as it stimulates people to think precisely in limited binary terms.

People, arts and sciences are by-products of the human experience, don't ever forget it. They matter because they've meant a great deal to us for countless generations. There's no real separation.

As well-intentioned as it might be, the argument this topic generates is flawed.
 

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I'm throwing my vote to science, for without it there would not be art. In school I chose to study the sciences over art so I guess it just appeals to me more.
 

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iLikeHippos said:
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Gee, that's hard. Decay or... Decay?

Both are just politically incorrect to me.
What on earth do you mean by that? How in the hell is science "politically incorrect"? In what way is it a decay?
To explain this would be to explain the whole phenomenon of the big picture here.
...But I don't feel like it today.

Instead, just take two seconds to analyze just what the dire consequences would be if you'd remove just one of them, taking even the smallest pieces of detail into consideration.

I found one answer; It's just politically incorrect, as it strides against ideas and behavior of society no matter what of the two you pick.

Hope that answered your questions.
I see your point now, but believe you missed the point of this thread. This thread isn't asking which discipline you'd erase from our culture, this is about which one you'd follow personally and which one is more important.

Also, I'm not sure you mean politically correct. This is a societal question, not a political one (most politicians seem to get by with only the vaguest idea of scientific concepts).
 

aenimau5

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Science is more important but art is still important because when we lose it however pretentious it may be, civilization will have officially ended ( thank you mordin )
 

Jedoro

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Island said:
Jedoro said:
Island said:
Jedoro said:
LifeCharacter said:
Mythbusters has shown just how beautiful science can be, and art rarely has explosions.
QFT

Art isn't as fun.
so video games, comic books, movies, novels, and this website are not as fun?
Video games take the science of computers to create, don't read comic books, movies take good science for CG and special effects, novels take science to print, and this website uses science to run.

To simplify my point, assuming I had the supply, ask me whether I'd rather spend an hour on the Escapist or an hour throwing frag grenades in the woods. I'd be out there in a heartbeat, science is just more fun.
there was no such thing as what we call science when explosives were first created, and even if you want to call that prescience creation primitive science throwing frag grenades in the woods is NOT science.
It may not have been called that, but that's what it is; I'm pretty sure chemistry is part of science. Frag grenades are just applied science. I also don't see how typing on a website can be called art, since it's the English language combined with computer science.
 

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To do science you need imagination - so art is part of science.

To do art you need technique - so science is part of art.

My answer was "other" because I would choose both.
 

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Art and science are completely different things. Science is about increasing the body of knowledge of society. Art, to me, is more like a reflection of the subconscious mind (or at least the kind of art I like). Science builds towards a brighter future, while art is just an interesting hobby. I chose science.

While art is important for enjoyment, etc, science is a fundamentally important aspect of society. Without the technology that was created using science, nothing would separate us from other animals.
 

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ANTHROPOLOGY IS THE SCIENCE OF ART

That is, if you take the definition of art to mean "something that describes the human condition". Anthropology tries to explain, scientifically, what it means to be human. :D

ANTHROPOLOGY MAJORS PICK BOTH!
 

Jedoro

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Island said:
Jedoro said:
Island said:
Jedoro said:
Island said:
Jedoro said:
LifeCharacter said:
Mythbusters has shown just how beautiful science can be, and art rarely has explosions.
QFT

Art isn't as fun.
so video games, comic books, movies, novels, and this website are not as fun?
Video games take the science of computers to create, don't read comic books, movies take good science for CG and special effects, novels take science to print, and this website uses science to run.

To simplify my point, assuming I had the supply, ask me whether I'd rather spend an hour on the Escapist or an hour throwing frag grenades in the woods. I'd be out there in a heartbeat, science is just more fun.
there was no such thing as what we call science when explosives were first created, and even if you want to call that prescience creation primitive science throwing frag grenades in the woods is NOT science.
It may not have been called that, but that's what it is; I'm pretty sure chemistry is part of science. Frag grenades are just applied science. I also don't see how typing on a website can be called art, since it's the English language combined with computer science.
you throwing frag grenades in the woods is not applied science or any other kind of science. i guess if you just like to call it that for fun that's fine, but its not and telling people that it is may make them wonder it you should have access to grenades. as far as typing on a website being called art i am unsure as to what your talking about.
Applied science is the application of scientific knowledge transferred into a physical environment.
Yes, it is applied science: the scientific knowledge of a handheld explosive transferred into a physical environment of a forest.

Ever heard of the show Mythbusters? They pretty much play with dangerous things and call it science. Maybe I'd like to see how many grenades it takes to take down trees of a certain diameter? Doesn't matter, since they're illegal for civilian ownership, but you'd only need to worry if I talked about their use in a mall.

so video games, comic books, movies, novels, and this website are not as fun?
You seem to have forgotten your first reply to me. In this statement, when I said art isn't as fun, you mentioned these, so it can be said you're implying these are art. Someone should remember what they say, or at least scroll up if they forget.
 

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Neither, I say Magic!!!

Ok I voted for Science since although I'm a art guy myself but without science we would all be living in the dark ages or still believe in witches etc. Ok granted we will live in a logical world were everyone is have no creative mind what so ever (that would be hell foe me).
 

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I am personally more interested in pursuing art, though that doesn't really have anything to do with one being better than the other.

I would choose art since I am of the opinion that the development of artistry and aesthetics in our species led to greater intellect and abstract thinking which in turn led to philosophy and science.
 

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There is no science without art. Look at Da Vinci, Archimedes, the foundation of science lies in the arts.
 

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LifeCharacter said:
Mythbusters has shown just how beautiful science can be, and art rarely has explosions.
Watch Art: 21. There's a guy who uses pyrotechnics and explosions to create some of the coolest art I've ever seen!

OT: Art and Science are one and the same. I suggest reading the book "Sophie's World," and a second look at the work of Leonardo DaVinci.
 

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Samwise137 said:
LifeCharacter said:
Mythbusters has shown just how beautiful science can be, and art rarely has explosions.
Watch Art: 21. There's a guy who uses pyrotechnics and explosions to create some of the coolest art I've ever seen!
A quick look at the state of cinematography over the past few decades might change some minds as well.... though I suppose that depends on what one includes under the heading of art.