Article concerning Zero Punctuation & The Escapist

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Anton P. Nym

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I decline to provide them revenue by reading the article; "Something Awful" is an excellent, self-descriptive title.

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poleboy post=18.73035.781585 said:
I think you and SA are mistaking this for the Yahtzee fanclub. I couldn't care less.
well... some of the ZP videos have more than 1000 comments, when other stuff like de-red barely gets like 30
 

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Archaeology Hat post=18.73035.781656 said:
You wouldn't notice. Alot of people would. I don't think the escapist would be as big as it is sans Yahtzee.
So? Then we have the forums all to ourselves.
 

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Gotta love the goons. Grenade brigade forward.


Anyways, while the Escapist had a solid userbase before hiring Yahtzee, I don't think anyone can deny that Yahtzee did bring a LOT of traffic. But then again, that's also on The Escapist for recognizing talent when they see it and hiring it... Not very different from what good companies like Valve, for instances, have done [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal_game]
 

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OUCH! He did kind of "hit the nail on the head" though it might have been a bit too violent. Yeah Yahtzee is a bit of an asshole, but only to people that can really take it or don't really care. My brother and I do this crap all the time and NOBODY seems to mind. I guess if... sorry lost my train of thought... I dunno any more I can't just carry an opinion it gets lost as I continue.

On th other hand I really don't get what "Acetone" (odd name) is trying to get at... is he just talking to hear himself talk???
 

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Clairaudient post=18.73035.781594 said:
I wasn't intending this to be a call to arms to defend Yahtzee. He does take some shots at The Escapist that I felt were unjustified however.
Bah, those are second-rate shots. Zack Parsons [http://www.somethingawful.com/d/awful-links/awful-link-3468.php] totally kicked his ass in 2005. He could have at least called us pretentious or something.
 

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I've always enjoyed watching people struggle with thinking for themselves when Yahtzee trashes their favorite game. Yes children...someone you look to for an opinion has said something you disagree with....no NO! they are no asshats. Think slowly now...NO, don't change your own opinion. That's it...that's called thinking for yourself. Good job!
 

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Damn it. My schools content filter is blocking. Cant read till I get home in 2 hours.
 

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snowplow post=18.73035.781867 said:
Anton P. Nym post=18.73035.781720 said:
I decline to provide them revenue by reading the article; "Something Awful" is an excellent, self-descriptive title.

-- Steve
Ha, the site is named "Something Awful" so it must be something awful!!! Witness how the wit oozes and cleverness drips from that post. Behold the deeper cleverness by being aware of the lack of wit in your post so you purposely post it so the mindless masses will notice and assume. Mere puppets in you hands!
Damn straight, yo.

Seriously, though, every time I've gone to SA I just haven't laughed... their brand of humour isn't mine, and indeed I find their site as "awful" as they find pretty much everything else. (And frankly I'm not too happy about the crowd that hangs around that site.)

Well that was fun. Its not everyday I get to bask in the grace of forum gods. rofl
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Something Awful, like 4-Chan, lives on it's 'raw edge'.

I.E. It's no better than the News of the World, for almost exactly the same reasons.
 

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The Escapist probably isn't about to release its numbers for readership and whatnot over time just in response to a not-very-good satire on world-renowned Internet circle jerk Something Awful, but it doesn't take Adam Smith to see the economics of the Yahtzee hire.

The entire point of spending money in any business is the hope that the money you spend will yield more money later, and the cause-and-effect at work here, "Escapist spends money to hire Yahtzee, brings in new fans, gets more advertising revenue" isn't some sort of civic benevolence on Ben Croshaw's part (unless they gave him an ownership stake). But acknowledging the commercial aspects of the Internet is SO squaresville (beyond "lol internets SRS BUSINESS lmao"), and heaven forbid Something Awful or 4chan or GameFAQs or any of the other incestuous, insular communities online acknowledge that.
 

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SimuLord post=18.73035.782148 said:
The Escapist probably isn't about to release its numbers for readership and whatnot over time just in response to a not-very-good satire on world-renowned Internet circle jerk Something Awful, but it doesn't take Adam Smith to see the economics of the Yahtzee hire.

The entire point of spending money in any business is the hope that the money you spend will yield more money later, and the cause-and-effect at work here, "Escapist spends money to hire Yahtzee, brings in new fans, gets more advertising revenue" isn't some sort of civic benevolence on Ben Croshaw's part (unless they gave him an ownership stake). But acknowledging the commercial aspects of the Internet is SO squaresville (beyond "lol internets SRS BUSINESS lmao"), and heaven forbid Something Awful or 4chan or GameFAQs or any of the other incestuous, insular communities online acknowledge that.
Websites breed?
 

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Susan Arendt post=18.73035.781689 said:
Um..I think folks may be missing the tongue-in-cheek nature I see clearly running rampant through that article. The author seems to be poking fun at the denizens of SA's overwhelming desire to hate everything and anything. I'm not taking sentences like "You can't really find any valid reason to hate this guy no matter how hard you try. At least if he were female we could accuse her of being an attention whore or something." too seriously...are you?

The article's main thrust -- that people love to hate Yahtzee simply because others love him -- is entirely valid. As for his claim that no-one had ever heard of The Escapist before Yahtzee showed up...well, that's obviously untrue, but it's a pretty common perception.

I thought it was actually pretty amusing, overall.
I'm glad someone else gets it.

For god's sake people, don't email him to complain, or you will end up as part of another hatemail article, and that makes us all look bad.
 

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Archaeology Hat post=18.73035.782303 said:
SimuLord post=18.73035.782148 said:
The Escapist probably isn't about to release its numbers for readership and whatnot over time just in response to a not-very-good satire on world-renowned Internet circle jerk Something Awful, but it doesn't take Adam Smith to see the economics of the Yahtzee hire.

The entire point of spending money in any business is the hope that the money you spend will yield more money later, and the cause-and-effect at work here, "Escapist spends money to hire Yahtzee, brings in new fans, gets more advertising revenue" isn't some sort of civic benevolence on Ben Croshaw's part (unless they gave him an ownership stake). But acknowledging the commercial aspects of the Internet is SO squaresville (beyond "lol internets SRS BUSINESS lmao"), and heaven forbid Something Awful or 4chan or GameFAQs or any of the other incestuous, insular communities online acknowledge that.
Websites breed?
Websites breed. With their sisters. Oh sure, they call it "inspiration", but it's really just like 80's-retro fanfics involving Kirk and Candace Cameron. And their babies.

You know I'm right because I use italics to emphasize my point. I learned it from Tycho.
 

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After he said he hadn't read anything else on here, I stopped reading.
The Yahtzee comment sections are like a forum of their own.
 

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poleboy post=18.73035.781703 said:
Susan Arendt post=18.73035.781689 said:
Um..I think folks may be missing the tongue-in-cheek nature I see clearly running rampant through that article. The author seems to be poking fun at the denizens of SA's overwhelming desire to hate everything and anything. I'm not taking sentences like "You can't really find any valid reason to hate this guy no matter how hard you try. At least if he were female we could accuse her of being an attention whore or something." too seriously...are you?

The article's main thrust -- that people love to hate Yahtzee simply because others love him -- is entirely valid. As for his claim that no-one had ever heard of The Escapist before Yahtzee showed up...well, that's obviously untrue, but it's a pretty common perception.

I thought it was actually pretty amusing, overall.
It's sort of a mixture I think. The SA people do seem to realize that what they're doing may not always be terribly intelligent or clever. But if I know anything about them, they love to troll and piss people off, and that's just childish in my opinion.
Someone has to do it.


They didn't just say that about Spore!

I can't take it seriously either. The only reason why he hates Yahtzee is because he's a big internet personality. I think that this article is spawned from jealousy.