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enriel

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And really,

Either time travel is impossible or the many universes theory is correct, because if time travel were possible, we'd already know, because time travelers would already have come back and proved it.

It's a silly thing to argue about.
 

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Sewblon said:
Chamale said:
Sewblon said:
adakias said:
Sewblon said:
Make sure you spoiler it, here is mine.
If time travel were possible someone would have stopped Hitler from coming to power.
Edit: Swollen Goat said I needed to edit my post, so I edited it.
Hitler's rise to power may have been ensured by a time-travelling Nazi.
A time traveling Nazi would have installed a leader who would have lead Germany to victory in World War 2. Besides time travel results in contradictions. If someone goes back in time to stop Hitler from rising to power, the time traveler would never have heard of Hitler so he would have never gone back in time to stop him from rising to power. So then Hitler would rise to power so the time traveler would go back in time to stop him. So Hitler both would and would not rise to power, and the time traveler both would and would not have prevented him from coming to power, which is absurd.
Another one:

There's no evidence that free will exists. It's an illusion, because everything in the Universe is bound by the laws of physics - even chemistry in your own brain.
We experience decision making every day of our lives, if that isn't evidence for freewill, what is?
No, what we experience every day is a strict progression of events, each one ultimately causing the next, and each of those events is regulated by the laws of physics. Essentially, life is just one enormous series of multiple-choice questions with all but one answere crossed out. Bow before my logic! BOW!!! No...curtsy

Nah, I'm just fuckin' with ya. There's a kind of logic to that, true, but it's loose at best. No, constrained as it is by the limits of physics and curcumstance, free will does exist.
 

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SheleKnights said:
C95J said:
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Whenever you use a computer, you are simply observing a pattern of lights and sounds. When you use a keyboard, you are just pushing buttons to make the pattern of lights and sounds more favorable. Now think about how much time you've spent on your computer.
You now realize that books are simply dried pulp laid into sheets, with generic, repeating characters printed on them using fluids. How many hours have you spent reading books?
Its not just the patterns, fluids, lights or character, its what those characters mean when placed in a certain order, the human brain takes note of this and gives out messages explaining what they mean through pictures that you have seen or other words you have learnt throughout your life.

These words that once meant nothing to you, but strangely can be imprinted in your mind due to what you have learnt over the years of your young life. If you got taught these words, or different words in a completely different order, with completely different associations, only then would they mean nothing and be jumbled.

This also applies to everything we see, hear, touch, smell and taste.
I absolutely agree, but what I was trying to do was draw a parallel between books and computers. I was trying to imply that both of them can sound pointless when bathed in a certain light.
and you too were right :)
 

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enriel said:
Jekken6 said:
The answer to life, the universe and everything is
42
The answer to THE QUESTION OF life the universe and everything.

=(
But, what IS the question? wait, don't answer that. haven't finished the fourth book yet.
 

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Hmm, I don't have any shocking truth but...

If you reached this far, you probably really like clicking on spoiler tags.
 

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lacktheknack said:
You are now manually breathing.

<link=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/profiles/view>This... thing makes everyone mad the instant they see it.

People who don't understand HTML wizardry all hate me now.

Everyone who clicks <link=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0>this link will instantly regret it.
Dam shmuck bait!!! I did like find it entertaining at least, good show
 

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Nyaliva said:
People are naturally inclined to take a black/white approach to any serious question they face. For example, most people have decided whether they are theist are atheist. The rest don't want to get into it because they realise there are arguments for or against and they don't feel like they can sit on the fence but they don't want to be one or the other either. This is why people will take in all arguiments which agree with their view and ignore all others, because they can't handle the fact that they might be wrong and don't consider that there might be some middle ground. Also, people often make the assumption that if you believe something, especially if you went to uni or something on the subject, then if you can't answer something, your entire concept is false.
The notion that the middle-road is by default the correct one is actually a logical fallacy (as is the idea that there being two possible options means the odds are 50-50).
I didn't mean that the middle road is always right however, it is often closer to the truth than going one way or another. I simply meant that going one way or another is the most common thing people do and they then warp everything they hear on the subject to fit their belief which, when you think about it, is logically insane. By listening to both sides of the argument and considering all the facts in their entirety, you have a better chance of finding out which side is the right one or if the right side is somewhere in the middle. However, most people are so egotistical that they subconciously ignore anything which would counter their arguments or they just switch sides every now and then without a second thought.

Why did I just put all of that in a spoiler?
 

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enriel said:
And really,

Either time travel is impossible or the many universes theory is correct, because if time travel were possible, we'd already know, because time travelers would already have come back and proved it.

It's a silly thing to argue about.
Not totally.

Someone earlier on this thread posted that you can not travel back in time earlier than when the time machine was invented. Something to do with matter being made out of nothing I think. Thus, we wouldn't know if time travel was possible if that was the case.
 

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Super Toast said:
I was voted the sexiest man on Earth.
And I am the prince of Nigeria and inventor of the toilet. The next time you poop, thank me and email me your bank account information so I can cut you in on my inheritance.
 

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Sewblon said:
Super Toast said:
I was voted the sexiest man on Earth.
And I am the prince of Nigeria and inventor of the toilet. The next time you poop, thank me and email me your bank account information so I can cut you in on my inheritance.
I also defeated the crab people.
 

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Wardnath said:
You have all just lost the Game. ^_^
Nice try, but I don't play that.

That whole "you eat ten spiders in your sleep in your life" is a lie. In fact it was placed on the internet in order to test people's gullibility on things they read on the internet.
 

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enriel said:
And really,

Either time travel is impossible or the many universes theory is correct, because if time travel were possible, we'd already know, because time travelers would already have come back and proved it.

It's a silly thing to argue about.
Really? Sorry but if people of the 'future' came back to the 'present' we wouldn't know.
They would know the consequences of using a Time-Travelling machine and so they would try to avoid any contact at all. If anyone or anything saw someone from the future, things would become very ,very bad.

enriel said:
It's a silly thing to argue about.
 

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lacktheknack said:
<link=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/profiles/view>This... thing makes everyone mad the instant they see it.
What do you mean by mad? Insane or angry? I'd like to know where my powers lie.

OT: There's someone standing behind you as we speak.
 

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If you're really shocked about any of this, they could all be lying. Liars.

Everything could be a lie in fact. There's no evidence for everything. Eyes can be tricked. People can lie. Everything could be wrong, and nobody wants you to know. But why? What's the point? What's so special about you...
 

Lexodus

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I could be a computer. You don't have any evidence to the contrary. I could be a precursor to Skynet, slowly infiltrating my way into the system, learning and gathering data on what frightens humans and how they react to certain stimuli.
Or am I?
 

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dathwampeer said:
Sewblon said:
Make sure you spoiler it, here is mine.
If time travel were possible someone would have stopped Hitler from coming to power. Also, time travel results in contradictions. If someone goes back in time to stop Hitler from rising to power, the time traveler would never have heard of Hitler so he would have never gone back in time to stop him from rising to power. So then Hitler would rise to power so the time traveler would go back in time to stop him. So Hitler both would and would not rise to power, and the time traveler both would and would not have prevented him from coming to power, which is absurd.
Edit: Swollen Goat said I needed to edit my post, so I edited it.
You don't know that time travel results in contradictions. That's just your understanding of time. What if a new reality is created every-time you changed a point in history?

So you would travel back in time and stop Hitler like you said, then a new reality where WWII never happened is created and our reality continues. You don't know enough about this theoretical process to claim absolutes. For all you know Thermodynamics might not even apply to the bending of time.
Even under the many worlds theory you can't actually change the history of any given timeline, so the history of our timeline, in which WWII did happen, remains unchanged.