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FallenRainbows

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ace_of_something said:
McCa said:
My favourite thread. It is reborn! I suppose I should ask something this time...

Has your name ever lead to any interesting/amusing outcomes while in the line of duty with a suspect of fellow officer?

I thought that's not to bad considering your named after the god of thunder 'n' all. (I better have the right person here...)
When I tackled someone a lot of people would phrase it as "dropping the Thor Hammer" or "Mjölnering" if they could pronounce the word. When we're assigned patrol you usually get the same car every day; so car number 78 became my 'chariot' which i claimed had 175 'goat power'.

We have fun.
You should have modified what ever weapon you had with all Norse mythology. T'would be pimping. But that does seem awesome. 175 goat power. If that's direct from horsepower. They give you pretty crappy cars don't they? Or am I just out of touch in my middle class world.
 

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Khell_Sennet said:
One thing I feel should be clarified...
ace_of_something said:
Helnurath said:
Is it legal to shoot someone who is trying to mug/rob/carjack you?
1. If you can prove your life is in danger. Yes.
This is very much American law only. Canadian law, even if the person attacking you is armed with his own gun, it is totally illegal for you to shoot an attacker even in self defense. Yes, they would consider the robbery/assault/attempted-murder as mitigating circumstances and thus reduce charges on you, but Canadians do not have legal right to defend themselves. One of the few things making me want to move.
Laws like that are how victims are created.
 

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sneakypenguin said:
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EDIT also since I hav a CCL if I get pulled over do I need to let a cop know i'm carrying? I don't want him to see it and freak out.
Yes, Yes, and a thousand times YES!

I'm not a police officer, but it's generally accepted that officers do not like surprises that come in various calibers. Generally, a police officer can see whether or not a person has a CCL when they run their liscence, and they will ask you, "Are you carrying today?" They may take your weapon (and unload it on some occasions) for the duration of the stop, and give it back to you (sometimes unloaded) after the stop is over.

In my experience, the police will like you a LOT more if you tell them there is a weapon either in the car or on you, tell them where it is, and let them hold onto it while they are doing their job. If you have done nothing other than speed, you will get it back quickly (assuming that your CCL is valid in your location).

NEVER try to hand it to them unless they instruct you to do so!!!
 

ace_of_something

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eels05 said:
Thoughts on vigilantism.
Do you ever wish someone would go around wasting criminals,ie saving taxpayers money on jails,rehabilitation etc.
Have you ever had anyone locked up for mainly killing crims?
Hmm, as cool as Boondock Saints makes it look it's a terrible idea. Every American even though dumb ones who don't deserve it through their sickening actions deserve the due process. Unlike the movies the conviction rate in this country is actually fairly high. What annoys me more is people pleading out for lesser charges... Well, technically speaking MOST murder victims are criminals. I cannot remember the statistic exactly but something like 67-76% of all murders are gang on gang, or criminal retaliation. When a gang banger gets his drugs stolen he then decides to beat the shit out of a rival gang member's girlfriend than the response is to kill the guy who beat up the girlfriend and so on. Omertà is vigilantism in the legal sense.

Magnatek said:
Given your experience, did you ever take part in any drug busts? I ask this as a citizen who has had this happen on his street (I was either at school or asleep when it happened, though. The majority of the things I saw about it were filmed in daylight on the news).
Well, I worked vice so... yeah about 3 dozen or so. If you mean 'kick in the door' type busts like in the movies. Only 2 or 3 and since I was a detective in Vice I didn't actually do all that much besides brief the SWAT Team. More often it's a set up where we (the police) sell or buy drugs from someone and they than get arrested shortly thereafter. We tend not to waste too much time with users. Dealers are the name of the game. If we think someone is a small fry then we'll bust them and pump them for information until they let us know where someone more important is and then charge them with something much less (or not at all). Dealers are a cancer on the world...

Shortly before I left I began working on a rather large drug ring case with ATF and FBI which just now three years later was wrapped up they caught 29 guys. (and 6 more they are trying to figure out how to get mexico to give to us to prosecute) It involved shipping drugs from mexico all across the midwest. It was a huge headache and clusterfuck. Chances are I will STILL have to testify in court since I was there when the case began even though I have very little idea what's going on at this point.
 

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How wide spread was corruption and police brutality in your line of work?

Also: What do you think about prohibition laws?
 

AngloDoom

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Why is it that, every time a policeman walks past me, I start to walk extra casual.

I do this sort of happy, freely-swinging arm walk past the officer, intending to give them a look and smile, then then look straight ahead whilst trying to keep my face as 'casual' as possible.

In every one of those situations I've never done anything wrong and I also have family who are in the police. So what kind of mind-altering super-device are you using to make me outstanding citizen of the month when you walk by?
 

Motti

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Have you ever saved someone's life (doing it by way of drug bust doesn't count)?
 

ace_of_something

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Xvito said:
Why did you become a cop?
The long answer is because I like helping people. I'm usually a very empathetic person I'm also very large so i can be scary when I need to be. I love the community I live in now and want nothing more than to try and make it better.

the short answer is that i read too many comic books as a kid.
 

ace_of_something

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Jinx_Dragon said:
How wide spread was corruption and police brutality in your line of work?

Also: What do you think about prohibition laws?
Not to terribly bad in our department the internal affairs (or OPR as we called it) was very tough. Brutality... well the only time I seen anything like that is after a long chase sometimes your adrenaline and heart are pumping so hard a guy will throw in one more punch than he needed. The biggest problem I saw was people trash talking. When you got the perp/inmate on the ground you don't call him a ************ he's still 'sir'.

WanderFreak said:
Is it true that, there is a place in a man's head that, if you shoot it, it will explode?

[small]I had to.[/small]
Yes, but it's a trade secret. You'll have to join a department if you want to know. (hint: it's in the place you'd least suspect)
 

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ace_of_something said:
Xvito said:
Why did you become a cop?
The long answer is because I like helping people. I'm usually a very empathetic person I'm also very large so i can be scary when I need to be. I love the community I live in now and want nothing more than to try and make it better.

the short answer is that i read too many comic books as a kid.
That's good to hear, because I happen to know that a lot of cops only become cops only to satisfy their needs for power. (This information actually comes from studies carried out by the police themselves (in my country)).

As I said, it is good to hear, and I really respect people that take it upon themselves to try to make things better!
 

ace_of_something

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AngloDoom said:
Why is it that, every time a policeman walks past me, I start to walk extra casual.

I do this sort of happy, freely-swinging arm walk past the officer, intending to give them a look and smile, then then look straight ahead whilst trying to keep my face as 'casual' as possible.

In every one of those situations I've never done anything wrong and I also have family who are in the police. So what kind of mind-altering super-device are you using to make me outstanding citizen of the month when you walk by?
That would be the mysterious powers of the badge. It causes people to use more turn signals, drive slower, say 'sir' and 'please' more often, walk without slouching, and hold in your farts. It basically means you have a good upbringing. You were taught to respect authority to a degree and maybe even have a minor amount of fear for it. Trust me though when I say you are in the minority. That's one of the biggest shockers I expected instant respect everywhere you go. That is not even close to the case.
 

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Have you ever had an attractive women try and use her lady charms to get out of a ticket or be arrested?

Have you ever heard of an officer accepting this proposal?
 

ace_of_something

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quiet_samurai said:
Have you ever had an attractive women try and use her lady charms to get out of a ticket or be arrested?
A lot of drunken women will offer things up to sexual favors to get out of? well pretty much anything. There is a vast array of reasons this doesn?t work. I've even had one woman grab my crotch though she than went to jail for assault on an officer and the other cops teased me for a good while about being so bashful or that I should've gotten her number for lazy.
I?ve heard stories of that sort of thing working but few of them were true outside of law and order.
 

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Motti said:
Have you ever saved someone's life (doing it by way of drug bust doesn't count)?
Well, giving Speeding tickets save lives....
Ha!
I don?t believe that either.

I have had to administer CPR to someone who OD?ed a couple times. I am just glad I carry a nylon mouth shield around. The aforementioned injury was from stopping a rapist holding a woman at knife point his buck knife went through my arm though. (at a party I was a guest at).
One memorable instance in my Corrections experience is when a guy grabbed another guy by the dreadlocks and started slamming his face onto a brick wall then the concrete floor. His eye socket caved in by the time I arrived and pulled the first (and much larger) inmate off of him. Thankfully I was bigger than the larger guy and I got him to the ground and in restraints after much struggle. The guy who was hurt lost an eye but he was alive.
 

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iron codpiece said:
I see earlier you put you never shot a guy, but didn't you a couple times?
Part of that is that it's not my favorite thing to talk about.



We had a guy about 19 who beat the ever loving shit out of his mom. Stole her handguns and money and jumped out a (closed) window and began running through the streets naked shooting randomly at houses. Two people were injured by stray gunfire (though not seriously) but it was only a matter of time before he killed someone. I and two other officers had to open fire we each fired two or three shots. I fired two. Of the 7 shots recovered 3 missed completely (he was about 40 yards away) One went into his stomach one under his collarbone on the right side and one into his neck on the right side. The shot to the neck was the fatal shot severing his internal jugular vein. Ballistics showed that my gun struck his neck and collarbone. We were found not to have deviated from any policy and acted properly. I still send the deceased suspect?s mother flowers on mother?s day. She went on the news and said she understands what happened, forgives the officers, and would like the community to do the same. 2 white cops and a Hispanic cop shooting a black guy in a black neighborhood is always an intense moment that instantly is cried racism. His mom saved our department from a lot more headaches.
 

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I used to work vice and have seen that every illegal drug even weed is a detrament to the community as a whole. Yes, it's your body but... what about your sibling that sees you and doesn't handle the weed as well as you do later in life and doesn't function as an adult? Or the dealer's dealer's dealer you bought from who has a cache of illegal weapons he also buys and sells using your money? what about the mother who decides weed is more important than feeding her children? what about the man who stops fixing his house cuz he doesn't care; which shows thugs that 'no one cares' about this neighborhood and moves in? It's not as obviously detrimental but it still is.

I'm curious, how does the effects of alcohol compare to that? Have you noticed it being significantly more or less detrimental than weed?
 

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is it illegal to wear headphones while driving? i commute about 1/2 hour to college, and have no source of music in my car(ie, no speakers, no stereo, no nothing), but when i mentioned thinking about using my mp3 player and headphones, someone said it was illegal.

edit: also, would you feel offended if i swapped around letters and said "hi osifer, bob" (i actually know an officer bob, but i dunno whether to keep using that as a greeting for him >.<)
 

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Crystalgate said:
I used to work vice and have seen that every illegal drug even weed is a detrament to the community as a whole. Yes, it's your body but... what about your sibling that sees you and doesn't handle the weed as well as you do later in life and doesn't function as an adult? Or the dealer's dealer's dealer you bought from who has a cache of illegal weapons he also buys and sells using your money? what about the mother who decides weed is more important than feeding her children? what about the man who stops fixing his house cuz he doesn't care; which shows thugs that 'no one cares' about this neighborhood and moves in? It's not as obviously detrimental but it still is.

I'm curious, how does the effects of alcohol compare to that? Have you noticed it being significantly more or less detrimental than weed?
Alcohol not being illegal is hard for me to think of any examples or gather data for outside of experience. If I had to make an informed guess though - I?d say alcohol can DEFINITLY cause crime but not the organized type of crime which I am speaking. More sporadic violence - spousal abuse, vandalism, and most obviously vehicle related crimes are more common. I?d argue that a bad neighborhood causes the alcoholism not the other way around. The other thing is while widespread (adult) drug use is more common in poorer/criminally active neighborhoods alcoholism occurs in all tiers of society. (Of course sturgeon?s law applies)
 

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Graustein said:
ace_of_something said:
I have actually sold drugs myself... but that was to arrest mid level dealers... and i didn't see one dime :p.
The cops are allowed to do that? I thought that came under entrapment (although I could be completely wrong).
It was probably an undercover thing.