Assassin's Creed 3: Again, Ubisoft?

Da Orky Man

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http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/118582-Assassins-Creed-3-Novel-Tells-Connors-Origin

Now, as you can see in the link above, a novel is to be released, written by Oliver Bowden, which details the origin of Connor, the main protagonist of Assassin's Creed 3. While reading it, i couldn't help but notice a specific sentence:
"Set during the American Revolution," said the developers in a press release, "Connor has sworn to secure liberty for his people and his nation..."

So, it appears that despite Ubisoft's devs continually telling us the Connor is going to be at least somewhere neutral, killing on both sides, he is now apparently fighting on the side of the revolutionaries. This is despite being half-British, and half-Mohawk, who fought with the British.

Can Ubisoft ever make their minds up?

Also, apologies for mini-rant. I just want them to go one way or the other.

Anyway, post your thoughts below.
 

Kushan101

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I know where you're coming from. I wouldn't like to see this fall into another "Americans are the good guys, dirty foreigners are evil" type story. I mean really? I'd expect such jingo-istic nonsense from Call of Duty but I thought the Assassins creed series was written by someone with a brain. Hopefully we'll turn out to be wrong and when it says "liberty for his people and his nation" - they really mean the Native Americans. Here's to hoping.
 

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I presumed that "his people" and "his nation" mean the Mohawks when I first read that. If it was referring to America that would be tragically ironic given the fact that Native Americans originally weren't allowed to be US citizens after America was founded.
 

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yunabomb said:
I presumed that "his people" and "his nation" mean the Mohawks when I first read that. If it was referring to America that would be tragically ironic given the fact that Native Americans originally weren't allowed to be US citizens after America was founded.
I wish it did, but since the Mohawk's fought with the British in both the Revolution and the War of 1812, they either didn't do their history homework or America Fuck Yeah! is on it's way.
 

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Suki_ said:
Elcarsh said:
It's actually even more fascinating, seeing as how Ubisoft are french, not american. How they could manage to squeeze some "'MERICUH, FUCK YEAY!" into it, I don't know.
I think its more of a "BRITISH, FUCK YOU!", then "'MERICUH, FUCK YEAY!" They are Frensh after all.
Yes, the cheese eating surrender monkeys do find us British rather basing[/joke]
 

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As a Brit.

To be honest I couldn't give a shit if Connor was totally "AMURICA! FUCK YEA!" let me slay thousands of English .... I have slain millions of Russians and I have never read an article in which Russians complain about always being the baddies.

What Happened to the British stiff upper lip? We are starting to get like stereotypical America "WAAAAH! Somebody did something mean to me! I am sooo offended! I will sue!" just get over it.

I wouldn't even care ubi said "Connor will be totally neutral" then proceeded to be the biggest killer of British ever, while no so much as giving a dirty look to an American. Even if they made the British look like bloodthirsty, baby killers and Americans to be the right hand of god, who never did a wrong and instead of killing us, they led us to the righteous path ....

The accent the people I am killing has no effect on my enjoyment of me massacring them.
 

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"his nation" could refer to just about anything. What we nowadays consider USA, or his british origins, or what some may consider the nation and land of the natives.
Until it says "Secure liberty for his people and AMERICUH FUK YEHH!" on black and white, then I'd stop for a moment and not shout foul until the actual game is out.
 

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omega 616 said:
As a Brit.

To be honest I couldn't give a shit if Connor was totally "AMURICA! FUCK YEA!" let me slay thousands of English .... I have slain millions of Russians and I have never read an article in which Russians complain about always being the baddies.

What Happened to the British stiff upper lip? We are starting to get like stereotypical America "WAAAAH! Somebody did something mean to me! I am sooo offended! I will sue!" just get over it.

I wouldn't even care ubi said "Connor will be totally neutral" then proceeded to be the biggest killer of British ever, while no so much as giving a dirty look to an American. Even if they made the British look like bloodthirsty, baby killers and Americans to be the right hand of god, who never did a wrong and instead of killing us, they led us to the righteous path ....

The accent the people I am killing has no effect on my enjoyment of me massacring them.
Thing is, when was the last time America was the baddies? It seems that we forget America has been a villian as often as it has been the good guy. You know, Vietnam, that whole thing in the Middle East, that thing with the atomic bombs... yet, nope. America are never the bad guys! Variety is the spice of life, folks.

[sup]Plus, from what I saw in that trailer, they gave the English guys reeeeally bad accents. I mean, christ they were bad.[/sup]
 

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Sparrow said:
omega 616 said:
As a Brit.

To be honest I couldn't give a shit if Connor was totally "AMURICA! FUCK YEA!" let me slay thousands of English .... I have slain millions of Russians and I have never read an article in which Russians complain about always being the baddies.

What Happened to the British stiff upper lip? We are starting to get like stereotypical America "WAAAAH! Somebody did something mean to me! I am sooo offended! I will sue!" just get over it.

I wouldn't even care ubi said "Connor will be totally neutral" then proceeded to be the biggest killer of British ever, while no so much as giving a dirty look to an American. Even if they made the British look like bloodthirsty, baby killers and Americans to be the right hand of god, who never did a wrong and instead of killing us, they led us to the righteous path ....

The accent the people I am killing has no effect on my enjoyment of me massacring them.
Thing is, when was the last time America was the baddies? It seems that we forget America has been a villian as often as it has been the good guy. You know, Vietnam, that whole thing in the Middle East, that thing with the atomic bombs... yet, nope. America are never the bad guys! Variety is the spice of life, folks.

[sup]Plus, from what I saw in that trailer, they gave the English guys reeeeally bad accents. I mean, christ they were bad.[/sup]
But this is the Rev war. This isn't America during Vietnam and the Middle East. Honestly you would have really stretch it to make America be evil and the Brits being good during this war. Imo it was basically as black and white as World War II was.
 

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Is this one of those summaries they put in the inner book flap written to catch the eye of the reader? If so, don't take it so literally. It's a book about the American Revolution, and what you just wrote screams "buzz words".
 

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Ubisoft is letting a glorified fan fiction writer make them a couple bucks. That's it. Don't take it as canon for the entire series.
 

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Korten12 said:
But this is the Rev war. This isn't America during Vietnam and the Middle East. Honestly you would have really stretch it to make America be evil and the Brits being good during this war. Imo it was basically as black and white as World War II was.
Don't be too hasty there.

The redcoats weren't attempting any genocides on the side.

Try WWI as a better comparison, though still rather inefficient. Actually, let's try to not look silly by comparing wars here.
 

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Korten12 said:
But this is the Rev war. This isn't America during Vietnam and the Middle East. Honestly you would have really stretch it to make America be evil and the Brits being good during this war. Imo it was basically as black and white as World War II was.
"History is written by the victor" has never been more relevant. No war is black and white, the revolutionary war was certainly far from a simple battle of good vs evil. Both sides did things we'd sooner rather erase from history. Hell, WW2 certainty wasn't black and white. I mean, there was that whole thing with American nuking those civilians and the bombing of Dresden.
 

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omega 616 said:
As a Brit.

To be honest I couldn't give a shit if Connor was totally "AMURICA! FUCK YEA!" let me slay thousands of English .... I have slain millions of Russians and I have never read an article in which Russians complain about always being the baddies.

What Happened to the British stiff upper lip? We are starting to get like stereotypical America "WAAAAH! Somebody did something mean to me! I am sooo offended! I will sue!" just get over it.

I wouldn't even care ubi said "Connor will be totally neutral" then proceeded to be the biggest killer of British ever, while no so much as giving a dirty look to an American. Even if they made the British look like bloodthirsty, baby killers and Americans to be the right hand of god, who never did a wrong and instead of killing us, they led us to the righteous path ....

The accent the people I am killing has no effect on my enjoyment of me massacring them.
The problem is not the nationality or the accent of the one's we're stabbing, it is the nationality and the accent of the ones we're empathically not stabbing.

Or in normal English: please let this not be another instance of American flag-waving and pretending light shines out of their arses. It's getting rather tiresome.
 

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My (perhaps unrealistically optimistic)interpretation is that while Connor will openly fight for the revolutionaries (ideologically, the assassins are much more "self-determination" than "shut up and listen to authority",) but will, like in the first game, occasionally go against members of his own faction who have less than honest motives. In the game-play trailers I've seen, he helps the colonists, but isn't exactly enthusiastic about it. In one, a colonist tells him about how British forces are moving to destroy a colonial unit and how he could help, and Connor basically says that it's their own fucking problem.

Basically they have a common enemy, but he doesn't seem to really like them.
 

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The article does say that he's given the freedom to write the narrative as he sees fit. I've read the books and noticed minor differences between the narrative he writes and the narrative we play. Hopefully, it won't be too one-sided; maybe he's trying to market it to Americans?