Assassin's Creed Devs Don't Hate the British

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Innegativeion

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Amnestic said:

That's a picture of our AC3 Assassin riding horseback with George Washington.

Not about Britain vs. Colonies. Totally you guys.
You expected a sequel to game where you could share a bro-hug with leonardo da vinci that is set in revolution-era America to

NOT

have you exchange dialogue with George Washington?
 

Khanht Cope

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I'll start by saying this thread seems like blatant trollish baiting. I don't think complaints about racial bloodbaths are all that sensible, considering the thought of what went down in Italy in the last few games. It's a little more sensitive than that however in the nationalistic revisionism issues in play.

As said by another user already, I challenge Ubisoft to at least demonstrate one bluecoat assassination with some kind of weight; because I have major doubts on their guts for living up to their talk of pluralism.

Saying: "we're not going to make all the British the bad guys" doesn't inspire much confidence if you're also going to consider the fighters on both sides to be British.

I just can't envision anything more significant than one or two token C or B grade founding fathers (there were like 50 of them), if not just a generic military official or pro-Patriot nobleman. I greatly doubt any major founding fathers will be targets. GW later becomes President, so he's going to be fine.
 

Kodlak

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Is it me or are they having to put a 'I'm not racist disclaimer' with every game now?

Do they really think that since I'm British that I will hesisitate to kill someone in AC3 because they are the same nationality. (Spoiler: Hell No!)
 

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Of all the wars to choose from, and they choose the War for American Independence?
How about a cool war, like the Spanish-American War? After all, that war never technically ended.
Okay, that could actually be cool, now that I think about it.
 

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I actually think that the Ubisoft Montreal guys have a more accurate depiction of the Revolutionary War here- even with the templar vs assassins thrown ine. Like Funk said, it was a British Civil War. It was more like the Bolshevik Revolution (just replace the ties to communism with the desire to become independent of the British Crown's supposed mistreatment. It's a semi-functional comparison.), or even the American Civil War. One side, the British colonists, felt that they weren't getting all the rights and treatment they deserved as British citizens. Independence actually wasn't on their minds till a point in time close to the war itself. The other side believed the colonists were being outrageous. Both sides were kind of pushed to the brink by actions of another. And because they didn't let the colonists have any say in Parliament at all, which would have resolved several of the issues. I really dislike it when it's portrayed as the evil British government wanting to take away the righteous American patriots' freedom. But I suppose that's what living in America does. I am interested to know how the British view the war, both from a patriotic and historiographical standpoint.
 

Artemis923

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Lame. I'm an American, and I don't want to fight solely on the Rebel side...I want it to be like AC1, where Templars were found on both sides.

That, and I have an overwhelming desire to go after George Washington...
 

Clearing the Eye

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A product depicting a war in which the British were involved, has some British soldiers die? Oh the controversy.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to go back to slaughtering Arabs in my Modern Battlefield: Clancy Warfare 2013 game.
 

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Innegativeion said:
You expected a sequel to game where you could share a bro-hug with leonardo da vinci that is set in revolution-era America to

NOT

have you exchange dialogue with George Washington?
Exchanging dialogue is one thing. Riding casually on horseback surrounded by a retinue of Colonialists is another.
 

Frostbyte666

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being British all I can say is meh, as long as it doesn't show the revolutionists being pristine white goody goodies and British soldiers being baby eating demons no problem and they keep away from the Mel Gibson rascism (Patriot and Braveheart pissed me off). Though I would say it is very odd to have freedom, liberty, etc. etc. coming across while a native american is butchering british soldiers since native americans were, you know, butchered by the colonials and other nations.
 

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To be fair, it'd be rather hard to avoid killing red coats in a game set in the midst of the war for independence.

And yes, we were wrong. Irritatingly there were even British members of parliament who pointed this out. [http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Speech_against_the_Stamp_Act] Seriously, we were undermining our *own* democratic ideals and "winning" in the Americas might have set a terrifying precedent that we'd still suffer under today. Splitting with the US was bitter medicine, but better that than the police state alternative. For example, who knows how long it might have taken to get universal voting rights in the UK had we won?

Anyway, we're all friends now right? ;)
 

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Same argument, if Ubi had the balls to kill a single Blue Coat in a trailer then I'd believe it, right now everything they say is just bouncing straight off "We aren't anti-British, we just solely kill them while stars n stripes fly in the background" >_> I'm not even bothered that the game is all about killing British soldiers, I'm bothered they're pretending it isn't. Also bothered they made him part British/part Mohawk then appear to have thrown history out the window and made him a colonist.

Artemis923 said:
Lame. I'm an American, and I don't want to fight solely on the Rebel side...I want it to be like AC1, where Templars were found on both sides.

That, and I have an overwhelming desire to go after George Washington...
Never before have I gone from reading something to having the exact same thought as I did just then. If the end game is Connor assassinating George Washington onto the declaration of independence (hell, if they just make the founding fathers Templars) then all is officially forgiven Ubi.
 

GasparNolasco

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I don't see a division so easy as Good Guys/Bad Guys in a war like this. Specially when seem by the point of view of a Native American.
I was expecting Connor to kill on both sides of the war like they did in the first game and in Revelations, would be kind of a bummer if they Americanize this too much by making you fight the Bad Guys in red and defend the Bad Guys in blue.
 

banthro

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Well surely it will be just like the first AC right? You're Arab and you're grudge is against the Templars, yet you fight both Crusaders and Arabs because you are a neutral party in their conflict.
 

J Tyran

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I can see why they picked the period, it was an interesting and pivotal point in history. But if its assassins Vs Templar's why is he hanging out with George Washington?

In case anyone is unfamiliar the Freemasons share some links with the Knights Templar.
 

Metalrocks

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this interview tells who we kill.
http://angryjoeshow.com/2012/06/aj-e3-2012-ubisoft-interviews/
 

Andy of Comix Inc

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NinjaDeathSlap said:
But then this one game appears that has the gall to show some British imperialists getting slit up and suddenly we all start losing our shit. Really guys? I mean really?
It's because Ubisoft is French, and nobody likes the French. Everything the French do is out of spite and their cheese-smelling evil. This is fact.
 

CaptainMarvelous

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NinjaDeathSlap said:
But then this one game appears that has the gall to show some British imperialists getting slit up and suddenly we all start losing our shit. Really guys? I mean really?
I'm still having the problem with Ubisoft claiming it's anything other than 'Murika f*ck yeah'. If it is, that's fine, it's showing the war from one side, a little dissapointing from AC but I can live with it. It's constantly claiming 'nono, we aren't anti-British' while simultaneously showing Connor killing Redcoats with a glorious stars n stripes backdrop while chilling with his best friend George Washington.

I dunno, I just reckon if they'd done this the other way round with a British Assassin killing Templar Bluecoats there would have been a vastly bigger shitstorm than we're kicking up.

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