Assassin's Creed III Location

[Something Amyss]

After having a long talk with a friend of mine, I realized just how viable a game set in Feudal Japan would be. Now, the argument I hear a lot is that Christianity didn't exist in Japan during the Feudal period, which... is vastly incorrect. I suspect, if gone this route, the game would take place in the year 1637, during Shimabara Rebellion.

Keep in mind, Ubisoft had initially planned a game during Mayan times. Not only the wrong religion, but the wrong continent in a time period where travel would have been pretty much unheard of.

So I'm not sure it would matter what timeframe it was put in.

It would, however, be pretty awesome.

 

[Woodsey]

How about the American Revolution? The way I see it, they foreshadowed it when:

Spoiler

Ezio commented on the unknown landmass when they pieced together the codex.

Besides, Europe has been more or less completely uncovered in terms of hidden equipment left by "those who came before." With unexplored regions in the soon-to-be United States, there's more for them to find.

Also, they have some nice possibilities with the Stone Masons and the real reasons for the American Revolution to play with.

Not really, the end of AC showed a lot of locations in Europe - they've only dealt with two or three.

Since one was shown in London, I'm really hoping we get a Victorian era setting. America would just be... bleh. Alright, its a different time-period, but its still America, and there's still so many places NOT done in games.

I don't think it was particularly built up for any time in history either so its not exactly good for interesting gameplay.

And I'm kind of lost on why the OP thinks Christianity is so important.

 

[Something Amyss]

still think that is rather wierd, desmond currently have a arabian ancestor and a italian ancestor, whats next? brittish? japanese?

It's not that hard to conceive the two being related to one another. These were not two isolated and unrelated areas.

 

[Woodsey]

still think that is rather wierd, desmond currently have a arabian ancestor and a italian ancestor, whats next? brittish? japanese?

Why is that weird? All they have to do is move around.

 

[Monty McDougal]

My friend said that they should do a similar thing that they did with daVinci but with Nikola Tesla and give the assassin electrical base weapon. Badass man

 

[MoNKeyYy]

Um... Most likely AC3 will take place in modern times, it's sort of what the whole series has been leading up to. At least going off of AC2. (haven't played brotherhood yet.)

It doesn't have to be entirely in the future. Brotherhood and two both kind of used the future as a framing device for the historical action, yeah? You still did stuff in the future but the Animus was the main focus. Why not do something similar except with some focus on the future, where instead of the main action being in the past the past becomes something you go into say, half the time as something that can drive the plot forward. This allows you to introduce a wider variety of Desmond's ancestors (going into different time periods) and open up the universe, especially the ongoing assassin templar war. You might say this creates problems with the gameplay and combat mechanics, but then you just don't include combat in some sections. Or you open up a mechanic in the future then allow that to carry over into the past. Say you gain a gun based combat mechanic in 2012, then you can open up more 20th century bsed assassination stuff in the past.

 

[ProfessorEkim]

I've always talked about how it would be cool to have the next game take place in colonial America, but I never really put any thought into it, your idea sounds much better and more planned out, and it would be very interesting to see it in the game.

 

[bobtail123]

Agreed, Victorian London would be just so awesome

 

[teh_gunslinger]

Tow things:

1. How is feudal Japan for large cities with multi story buildings?

2. Japan is a god-awful place and if the game was set there it would mean I never play it.

 

[UnknownGunslinger]

To be honest I was quite upset when the second Assassin Creed took place in Renaissance Italy, I don't complain about the way they showed it, the game was gorgeous - rather I felt bad because they could've taken the series virtually anywhere and with all those limitless option they ultimately decided to do something rather predictable

So I'm glad the third one is going to take place in Ottoman Constantinople, I think that at least it's going to be just as interesting and different to see, as christian occupied Palestine was in the first game.
But more exotic places like the great states of India, or in China, or as you mentioned Japan would've been amazing and still could've been tied to the story in a logical (for the series ) manner.
Hell, they could've even gone to pre-Colombian America, was the feeling I was left with after the end of the first game, but sadly it didn't pan out quite so

As for future games I would like to see pre-revolutionary France, or Tsarist Russia, or 1900s America - Just anything we havent seen a million times so far!
And please, please no WWII for the love of god

 

[hermes]

Russia circa the Bolshevik Revolution. Imagine assassinating Rasputin.

Over and over and

I like where you are going. After the comic it looks like a nice fit.

Also, I am not so into Victorian London... I know there are like 300 years of difference, but I don't think its THAT different from Renascent Italy.

 

[Velvo]

How about the American Revolution? The way I see it, they foreshadowed it when:

Spoiler

Ezio commented on the unknown landmass when they pieced together the codex.

Besides, Europe has been more or less completely uncovered in terms of hidden equipment left by "those who came before." With unexplored regions in the soon-to-be United States, there's more for them to find.

Also, they have some nice possibilities with the Stone Masons and the real reasons for the American Revolution to play with.

This is exactly what I have supposed would happen for some time. The ideals of the revolutions in the late 18th century are very much tied to those of the Assassins. You could span the whole period of revolutions, starting with the American revolution and culminating with the Napoleanic wars.

It makes chronological sense. Lets say our protagonist is a young man (or woman) during the revolutionary war, whose mother or father is involved in the "real" reasons behind the revolution, aka, the Assassins vs the Templar. Then of course, you have the reveal, a la Giovanni Auditore along with a betrayal of some sort, i dunno, look up something in history, I'm sure there's something. Maybe John Adam's kids were secretly badasses?

Then, after the revolution is won, templars defeated, piece of eden obtained and the future of the country secured, the next game in the Assassin's Creed III set could be all about how that new assassin goes to France to help with the French Revolution, and then the next one could be the Napoleonic Wars or something.

Of course, maybe this set of history is too well known to be all that interesting to play.

 

[Khanht Cope]

A lot of the material that came up in the Subject 16 puzzles in Brotherhood was very pro-Communist, anti-Capitalist, so it's very easy to see the Assassin Order being behind Socialism/Communism.

It was anti-capitalist, but I didn't get the feeling it was necessarily pro-communist per se.

As for talk of female ancestors and feudal Japan settings; the developers would never have Desmond relive the memories of a female ancestor and have talked before about not being interested in skipping his ancestry line all over the planet. However; when I hear the talk about the future of the series, the talk of Desmond adventure is referred to as if it's an arch.

While things like female ancestors won't be in AC3; it's not to say they'll never feature via the story picking up the adventures of another protagonist and exploring a different ancestry line.

What's unique about Assassin's Creed's potential is the scope of it, and the possibility of going on to have as many instalments as the Final Fantasy franchise.

Unfortunately the boards insistance on annual releases, the developers addiction to finding ever shinier, danglier things to distract players with instead of solving existing problems; and the expansive and increasingly thin spread of focus degrading the conceptual integrity of the series; those things will likely trap the series in the AC2 engine and kill it off before it gets that far.

 

[Poptart Invasion]

Wherever it's based, I do think it needs to be in a time when guns are not really an option. What I love about AC is that it takes the assassinations more back to basics, you have to get up close and personal a lot of the time, you can't just rely on a sniper rifle for each one. And yes, I know Ezio had a pistol. Frankly, as long as there are still the hidden blades, I'll be a happy bunny.

I don't know, the crossbow seemed a bit unfair in my favor, but it didn't really break the immersion of being a silent, invisible assassin, IMO. Of course, some people don't even make an attempt at stealth unless a mission requires it, but screw those guys.

I guess they could possibly maintain that feeling of immersion in a modern age. I assume real-world spies have and are willing to use firepower, depending on their mission, but they really, really rather not. Stealth in the real-world, like in AC, is your friend in enemy territory, and shouldn't be cast aside until shit has already hit the fan.

Then again (and more OT), that may be because I'd like to see a Wild West AC. With rich history/legends like the showdown at the OK Corral, Billy the Kid, and of course the Indian Wars and Westward Expansion to work with, there's a lot of awesome potential for story-telling there. Plus it's hard to discern the history from the legends and tall tales with most of those stories, which fits neatly with secret wars, misinformation, and cover-ups.

 

[Poptart Invasion]

Sorry. Dumb double post because of dumb internet.

But while here, I might as well comment on something someone else posted (can't see who posted it from the edit page). Forgive me if I'm talking out of my ass (outside of the Lineage series, I don't know most of the backstory) but Communism seems in opposition to the Brotherhood's ideals. Maybe I'm wrong. After all, an ideal Communist state may be exactly what they strive for. But that's just as improbable as,yet easier to control than, a perfect Capitalist state. I may be projecting, but it seems to me that what the assassin's would support most is a well-regulated Capitalist state, or even a Socialist one, so long as it was chosen by the people and wasn't oppressive. Again, we've yet to see a perfect model of either of those, but they seem less easily controlled than Communism.

 

[Maxtro]

I've always thought about making 3 take place in feudal Japan.

I want to be able to play a ninja with realistic combat and weapons.

And no, Desmond would have no connection to the Japanese ancestor. There are other modern day assassin camps.

 

[Stalydan]

I got either Industrial Revolution England (because it's not just London, there's more cities that were equally important during that time period) or French Revolution France (because with the amount of stuff going on during that time, you can see some kind of Templar/Assassin action going down).

while thats a valid point. But given londons relative size i would rather they flesh that out and i get another experience like brotherhood, where the surroundings and details really made you feel like you were there.

Just my take, rather have 1 amazing bigger map, than a few smaller ones.

I liked Rome but there were lots of nothingness outside the city. Some small towns but not really all that fun :/

What I would like is to see two big cities but not too big. It was good to have such a large map but when a lot of it felt very boring and underpopulated, it just made you want to stick to the one area.

But that's just my own opinion.

 

[Grimrider6]

A lot of the material that came up in the Subject 16 puzzles in Brotherhood was very pro-Communist, anti-Capitalist, so it's very easy to see the Assassin Order being behind Socialism/Communism.

It was anti-capitalist, but I didn't get the feeling it was necessarily pro-communist per se.

Well, I may be reading more into it than is intended, but I got the impression that it was at least very pro-Socialist. I actually enjoyed the Subject 16 material as much as (maybe more than) the main story arc of Ezio, so I took the time to go back through all the puzzles and carefully examine all the text and images, and they glorified such things as nationalization of industry in South America as a positive, "for the people" action, as well as hiding Assassin logos on Socialist slogan banners in some of the photographs.

Given the Assassins Creed of "Nothing is True, Everything is Permitted", I wouldn't assume that the Assassins are Socialist themselves, but rather that they fostered that ideology as a way to weaken the Templar's grip on finance and industry.

 

[Waffle_Man]

From a story and thematic perspective, it would make the most sense to set it either in England, France, or the United States, or combination of the three, at least sooner or later (id est, maybe not even III, but IV.)

If I know one thing about the standard templar conspiracy theory set up, it's that it always somehow involves the freemasons. Well this could be taken two ways: Either they do the standard approach of Templares=Freemasons, or they could do a much more interesting take on it.

The freemason's origins are fairly obscure and nothing is really known about where they came from. Ok, we have a group shrouded in mystery with secret rituals and an unknown origin that uses this symbol. [http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ac/Square_compasses.svg]

Remind you of anything? [http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110611133616/assassinscreed/images/f/f8/Assassin_Symbol_wallp_pack_by_WinterWerewolf-1-.jpg]

Anyway, it's generally said in these conspiracies that the freemason's have a huge hand in the revolutions in france and the americas. As such, who knows, maybe we have the basis for a new plot.

 

[TheCommie12]

My friend came up with Victorian London;

You play as Lady Elizabeth, daughter of the Duke of Wessex (Grand Master of Assassin Order), and against Sir John Conroy, Victoria's step father and Grand Master of Templar Order

Date is 1837, when Queen Victoria comes to the throne

Plus you get to travel on trains, and later meet Serlock Homes (Robert Downy Jr?)

What do you guys think of her ideas?