Ausie Filtering

[Cahlee]

I'm for Australia and this frightens me. It's ridiculous and unnecessary!

 

[House25]

I think America has the most low end internet restrictions, unless it threatens the Government.

 

[Sackwak]

I'm for Australia and this frightens me. It's ridiculous and unnecessary!

I'm the same as that. But I got some crazy feeling someone is gonna hack into it many times until they either just get rid of it, or they delete the internet for all Australians

 

[nekolux]

well my cousin told me about that, and they usually filter stuff thats illegal, things they think shouldnt be on the internet. it sucks because i actually want to move to australia when i grow up (im american now).

Not trying to be an ass here but a piece of advice from me. Don't. If you think internet cap's bad in america. Just wait till you see the cap in aus. Not a single one of my aussie friends have an unlimited internet connection. Not one. THey have like 10gigs or 20gigs limit. So basically, you cant watch videos, you cant download stuff. And if you play a game like WoW. One of those 2 gig patches will kill your connection.

You get 20 gigs if you pay an arm and a leg. =)


Edit : In reply to the OP. I live in singapore and we're close enough to australia for me to feel extremely uncomfortable about this idea. Our government has always been a nanny to the citizens up to the point of controlling mainstream media. They have yet to firewall the internet of course. However this move by australia could encourage the government to do so.

From what i've seen however, a lot of people care about this. So i dont think it'll pass. To those people who think that it's none of their business though, THIS IS YOUR BUSINESS. If you think things are just going to remain the same, you're wrong. This is a slippery slope here, give anyone enough power and they'll do something wrong sooner or later. By giving the government the power to control your internet access, you're essentially cutting off the last line of true freedom to the outside world.

Quis custodiet, ipsos custodes? The modern way of dealing with this is by splitting the power between 3 parties in the government body, and letting the people vote. If you do not watch the guards, the guards will turn on you.

The internet has evolved to such a stage where you cannot destroy it's information, you cannot control it. The only way for the government to control it, is to cut it off.
That's why net neutrality is important. That's why this is important. And that's why you should wake the fuck up and do something about it, because IT MATTERS.

 

[House25]

sorry, it's not an everyday term in my life

 

[Sakash]

Im Aussie, and this is yet another reason why i regretted voting for this idiotic party. What were they thinking. Were they just siting around and and thought "hey, how can we take away people's rights to view internet content, slowdown our already shitty, shitty internet while pissing everyone off?"
The thing that i hate the most is that they tried to HIDE this little filter from us. The first time i read about it was in a very small article buried on page 7 in the newspaper.

 

[Knight Templar]

"1. If you're from Australia, how do you think this will affect you?"

We'l pay more for worse internet and have over one million sites blocked unfairly and unintentionally, nevermind the ones they want to block.

 

[teh_gunslinger]

Australia has surpassed germany in becoming a facist nanny-state where anything unpleasant is banned, censored and made illegal; games, books, movies, stories, you name it. Like the guy put in jail over simpsons porn cartoons, or the other guy who uploaded a russian father playing with his kid by swinging him around and it looked like 'abuse', so the Aussie was thrown in jail. Now they want to censor the internet.

Why aren't Australians doing anything? don't they vote? where's the outrage?

What the devil has Germany to do with this? You do realise that WW2 ended 60 years ago right? In the mean time it has been mostly a social democracy. If you want a country that is bordering fascism these days look to Denmark. We are getting shafted with regards to civil liberties all the time.

 

[sirdanrhodes]

I can guess that there will be a petition, nothing will be done, some nerds will leave the country and then Australia eventually becomes inhabited by old people who can't use the net!

 

[House25]

That's why we care.

Two things:
a) Judging by what you typed, you either didn't read my post or disragerded it.

b) you said 'that why we care' meaning that you think you know what australians think (including me) and, by commiting such a humongous act of generalization your argument lost all credability.

I said 'i'm australian, i don't care' then you said 'we're australian, blah blah, That's why we care.' As far as i'm concerned people with massively generalized, underinformed views like yours should be censored - not because i'm against freedom of speech, but because those kinds of opinions don't mean a thing and i'd rather not have to read them. Of course, you could have just refrained from needlesly quoting me...


anyway, people who think the australian government are going to start censoring sites to the extent of the Chinese government is short sighted and missing the point. There are hundreds of reasons why, but i'll just say one; that OMG-DUH, australia is not a single party state, there is no state censorship institution, and you have no reason to fear ideological censorship until we DO become a single party state. If that happens, then yeah that'd be a bummer, but i'll be living somewhere else by then so it's all good.

I say again - I WANT australia to ban games like gears of war - they're just crappy copies of halo with stupid amounts of blood thrown in - and to block all porn sites, limiting porn to megastores where only brave adults dare go, or something. Of course, won't happen. whatever.

governments in australia have no reason to censor things, their power isn't based in ideology and they'd never need to block sites.

all of that's just MY opinion. It's right, of course, but that doesn't mean i'm forcing it on you or anything, and i'm not using the word 'we' - maybe you should take a leaf out of my book.

I would say you should take some advice from your name and admit he's probably right. Stop accusing people of invalidating their argument with valid points and say something intelligent.

C. Lion is completely right, I've way too much of that heppening lately, but this post was a little off topic.
I digress

 

[Rolling 20]

As a budding journalist I have already written two articles about this particular phenomenon. What surprises me is the entire lack of knowledge by the majority of the Australian public. Yes, they're very concerned about their freedoms, but don't know diddly squat about the whole thing. The reason being the Rudd Government officially announced it JUST as the economic crisis began. I.E. no one gave a S&%T. I'm going to stop myself right there lest I rant, but in conclusion this is a concerning event for Australians. The questions you Aussies out there need to ask is "How far are we willing to go to 'protect' our children?" and "Would you do it if it meant sacrificing your civil liberties?"

- LockedUp

 

[jezz8me]

The best of the filters will slow almost all internet connections by up to 86%!

The reason I am against the filter. We have horrible internet as it is.

I aslo do not want Australia to be such a horrible nanny state.

 

[Dommyboy]

Well as a male I find the internet to be very, very useful to my interests and while some things on the internet are terrible and wrong, a person should have free will (without affecting others) on the internet.

 

[Dogmeat T Dingo]

Oh I love australia. My sisters boyfriend works in the mines in western australia. Naturally when he gets time off he hits the pubs hard as mining towns have little else worth while.
So a few months ago there was a minor problem with a bunch of abbos that resulted in a full blown pub brawl with about 5 miners against 15+ abbos. My sisters husband tried to just break it up and get them off his mates and got attacked with weapons, pool sticks, pool balls, bottles, you get the idea. He got such a beating that he died and had to be revived, his friends suffered broken bones and a off duty waitress who just tried to stop things got a bar stool across the ribs shattering 3 of them and landing her in hospital for a few weeks.
Beautiful part is the law is soo shit over there and soo biased towards protecting the damn abbos that it was considered just a "bar fight" and no charges were pressed.
So hows that. You people cannot have decent games or check porn sites but can happily kill someone in a bar fight and walk away scot free.

I do feel sorry for your husband and the miners involved, and yes as an Australian I agree that there needs to be an un-PC look into the law to make them equal for everybody with no special favours.

That said, what's the relevance here? You treat it as if we're ignoring inequality in favour of something else, but you can say that about anything. Hey, while you're complaining about a particularly nasty pub brawl, people in Africa are starving to death! Does that mean you should ignore the issues that are close to you?

That said, my main objection to the internet filter is the speed cut, our telco network is bad enough. There is also the principle of it, the idea that people need to suffer at the hands of an overbearing policy because hysterical "for the family" folks with children don't understand the concept of parental supervision, and expect the government to raise their kids for them. I'll be shocked if one day the phrase "family values" means genuine concern for parents and their children, instead of completely unrelated nanny-state policies and homophobia.