Australia Uses Harsh Graphic Novel To Ward Off Refugees

[FogHornG36]

Ah yes, because all 1st world countrys should take every refugee/illegal alien, and give them free health care, and a good job, and we should also bend over backwards to make sure that they feel welcome, accepting their culture and traditions, while watering down, or even flat out flushing our own if they might offend.

 

[RoonMian]

What the hell is going on here? where does all this privilege blindness and xenophobia come from?

 

[Shocksplicer]

In case anyone was wondering: No, this government does not represent the will of the Australian people. They are literally fascists.

i really hope this is a troll, no one could be this ignorant or offensive in one sentence otherwise

In a thread featuring people saying that they want refugees to be treated more harshly , I'M the one being offensive? Interesting attempt at logic there mate...

yes, to call Australia "fascist" is spitting on all those who have died under real fascist governments, are you really equating yourself to some one who lived and died under Stalin or Hitler? are you typing this from a computer in a concentration camp? no you sit in a free first world nation screaming "fascism" at the top of your lungs like a petulant child, please leave my country you today tonight watching Bogan arse hole

Okay, first of all, I never called Australia fascist. I called the Liberal Party fascist. If you'd care to look at the actions typical of a fascist government and compare them to our government you'll find some unsettling parallels.

Second, read the forum rules before you start screaming unsubstantiated insults at strangers.

elaborate, point out these imagined parallels between Nazi Germany and the liberal party (you would have an easer time trying to make the connections between fascism and the labour party all due to senator Conroy) and you did call Australia fascist by calling the liberal government fascist as they are the currently elected heads of this country, don't try and back pedal just because you have been shown as an insensitive prick on the same lvl as a holocaust denier

Holy shit, what is WRONG with you???
I'm not going to bother continue this argument, because you're clearly a bit unhinged, and you resorted to Nazi analogies almost immediately. You claim that being unhappy with ones government is akin to being a holocaust denier?
You want Refugees to be treated as if they are inhuman, but I'M the insensitive one?
Screw this, it's not worth discussing politics with people like you.
My only solace is the fact that, with your insulting, offensive and downright despicable comments you won't be posting on this site for much longer.
Good day.

 

[CriticalMiss]

...Why is this considered news on a gaming site? What because it's a 'graphic novel'? Bit of a stretch isn't it? =/

Because there aren't enough things to say about Notch I guess. Probably the tenuous link to graphic novels though.

All Australia has to do to stop people going there is to point out that literally everything there wants to kill you and most of them will do it slowly and painfully. Plus videogames are really expensive.

 

[The Wooster]

Whatever your thoughts on immigration in general, only a complete **** would consider the way Australia handles the detention and eventual deportation of illegal immigrants remotely humane or acceptable. Here's another comic based on the account of someone who worked in an Australian detention center.

 

[Ed130 The Vanguard]

...Why is this considered news on a gaming site? What because it's a 'graphic novel'? Bit of a stretch isn't it? =/

Because with the standard 'nothing gets released around this time' combined with the 'next generation' of consoles meaning that games that would normally get released being delayed to get them to work on the new tech there is a dearth of news about videogames.

On the bright side once the PS4 and Xbone hit their stride this problem will fade.

 

[Shocksplicer]

In case anyone was wondering: No, this government does not represent the will of the Australian people. They are literally fascists.

i really hope this is a troll, no one could be this ignorant or offensive in one sentence otherwise

In a thread featuring people saying that they want refugees to be treated more harshly , I'M the one being offensive? Interesting attempt at logic there mate...

yes, to call Australia "fascist" is spitting on all those who have died under real fascist governments, are you really equating yourself to some one who lived and died under Stalin or Hitler? are you typing this from a computer in a concentration camp? no you sit in a free first world nation screaming "fascism" at the top of your lungs like a petulant child, please leave my country you today tonight watching Bogan arse hole

Okay, first of all, I never called Australia fascist. I called the Liberal Party fascist. If you'd care to look at the actions typical of a fascist government and compare them to our government you'll find some unsettling parallels.

Second, read the forum rules before you start screaming unsubstantiated insults at strangers.

elaborate, point out these imagined parallels between Nazi Germany and the liberal party (you would have an easer time trying to make the connections between fascism and the labour party all due to senator Conroy) and you did call Australia fascist by calling the liberal government fascist as they are the currently elected heads of this country, don't try and back pedal just because you have been shown as an insensitive prick on the same lvl as a holocaust denier

Holy shit, what is WRONG with you???
I'm not going to bother continue this argument, because you're clearly a bit unhinged, and you resorted to Nazi analogies almost immediately. You claim that being unhappy with ones government is akin to being a holocaust denier?
You want Refugees to be treated as if they are inhuman, but I'M the insensitive one?
Screw this, it's not worth discussing politics with people like you.
My only solace is the fact that, with your insulting, offensive and downright despicable comments you won't be posting on this site for much longer.
Good day.

nice straw man you built there, i like how because i wont abide your ignorance i must be an Abbot supporter and anti immigration, here is a news flash for ya kid, the internet is not your personal echo chamber. and you are the one who brought up Nazis when you said that Australia was "literally fascist"

and if the mods want to ban me then fine, i take responsibility for what i put out on the internet, unlike you who only knows how to back pedal and denie the very things you yourself typed

I've yet to deny or backpedal on anything. Interesting that you falsely accuse me of using a straw man while creating one of your own.

And there's a pretty big difference between calling the Liberals fascist and comparing me to a holocaust denier.
Also, don't call me kid, judging by your posts in guessing you're about 12 years old.

 

[Shamanic Rhythm]

Whatever your thoughts on immigration in general, only a complete **** would consider the way Australia handles the detention and eventual deportation of illegal immigrants remotely humane or acceptable. Here's another comic based on the account of someone who worked in an Australian detention center.

Don't even try arguing with someone who thinks our refugee handling is anything other than fair and warranted. As this very thread demonstrates, you'll swiftly be drowned in straw-men, usually along the lines of 'so you want us to let everyone in and give them a free house and job'.

 

[Magmarock]

I don't know about this comic or what the people here are saying but I do support what the current government is doing. They tow the refugees back to Indonesia. Under the previous government most refugees died at sea, but under the current government we have had less problems with it. I'll probably harassed due to my opinions, but I'd like to remind you that it's still harder to get into the US then Australia.

 

[Irridium]

Mr chalk before you critise our nation please look at your own

http://www.uscg.mil/hq/cg5/cg531/AMIO/amio.asp

from said link.

As the primary maritime law enforcement agency, the Coast Guard is tasked with enforcing immigration law at sea. The Coast Guard conducts patrols and coordinates with other federal agencies and foreign countries to interdict undocumented migrants at sea, denying them entry via maritime routes to the U.S., its territories and possessions. Interdicting migrants at sea means they can be quickly returned to their countries of origin without the costly processes required if they successfully enter the United States. The Coast Guard supports the National Policy to promote safe, legal, and orderly migration.

THAT IS ALL WE ARE DOING!

I feel I should point out that Mr. Chalk is from Canada, not the US.

 

[McFazzer]

I don't really like discussing these types of topics, discussing politics with someone is a bad way to make friends after all, but I feel I need to point something out.

There are homeless people in Australia who have applied for Government housing that are still stuck in the bureaucracy of it and there are Refugees who have been given Government housing because they came via less than legal channels. I'm not saying that they shouldn't give Refugees housing, simply that you really need to look after your own backyard before you invite the neighborhood over for a BBQ.

 

[suitepee7]

Australia's reputation as a place that doesn't care for immigrants criminals who didn't get there at least 100 years ago

FTFY.

The sad part is as bad as the 'immigration camps' are they are probably better than where they came from.

Refugees aren't criminals mate...

Technically traveling without papers or visas is considered illegal, its just that asylum seekers are protected by various UN charters protecting them from prosecution if their reasons for defying the law are just ie: homeland is a warzone, extreme discrimination etc.

aye, it's a weird one. the right to claim asylum is protected by being classed as a human right, therefore it cannot be stopped, however in order to make that claim you must be within the nation of which you intend to claim asylum to (if that makes sense).

to do this they push their borders offshore, making it incredibly hard for immigrants to use regular transportation to reach australia and make the asylum claim, which is why they travel using other means, which is as you rightly said, illegal. it isn't just australia who does this, but they are known for their strict anti-immigration policies

 

[RedBackDragon]

Mr chalk before you critise our nation please look at your own

http://www.uscg.mil/hq/cg5/cg531/AMIO/amio.asp

from said link.

As the primary maritime law enforcement agency, the Coast Guard is tasked with enforcing immigration law at sea. The Coast Guard conducts patrols and coordinates with other federal agencies and foreign countries to interdict undocumented migrants at sea, denying them entry via maritime routes to the U.S., its territories and possessions. Interdicting migrants at sea means they can be quickly returned to their countries of origin without the costly processes required if they successfully enter the United States. The Coast Guard supports the National Policy to promote safe, legal, and orderly migration.

THAT IS ALL WE ARE DOING!

I feel I should point out that Mr. Chalk is from Canada, not the US.

yeah i figured sompthing like that was probably the case its just about my luck


EDIT: yeah i just had a look at the canidan laws they are very similar with regards to illegal immigration. http://www.loc.gov/law/help/citizenship-pathways/canada.php#Penalties

 

[gyroscopeboy]

straw man

I think we need a new Godwin's Law for the appearance of this word on escapist forums...

 

[Tanis]

Why must another nation take the unwanted of another?
Why must any nation be forced to break its' laws?

These people are ILLEGAL, their first act in another country is breaking their laws.
Not only are they breaking the law, they're disrespecting the nation they are sneaking into.

 

[RicoADF]

We are not all cunts with no souls, if you want to know who is, look at our dear PM and his "liberal" conservative party.
Mark my words, Australia will head into recession, all thanks to the heartless bastards on top.

Fucking hell, I hate conservative policy.

While I agree Abbott is a tool and he'll probably screw the country up, the only thing I will give him credit for is that he's got the back bone to deal with these boat people by sending them back.

Now before you shoot me let me explain:
These people are often from Afghanistan and other middle eastern nations, which is why the whole "asylem seeker" claim doesn't seem right to me, add onto the fact these people can somehow afford to pay thousands to get on these boats and my cynism alarm goes off even more so. First off, if their refugees why are they traveling half way across the planet, over a few seas/oceans to get to Australia rather than just heading north east across land to get to Europe, a much closer and safer place to head to. Secondly, how is it they can afford to spend the money on the boats when they supposedly left everything behind to get away from their homes, and why don't they go via legitimate channels like taking a plane to Australia for cheaper or even just going to an Australian embassy to request asylum through legit channels. The fact their spending more to try and sneak in as far as I'm concerned means their hiding something, their probably criminals etc and not the sort of people we want here. If their real refugees they wouldn't take the hardest ways possible to get to safety.

I will repeat, I have no issues with legitimate refugees coming to Australia and neither do most Australians, but they have to do it properly and not expect to jump the fence into our nation without being checked.

 

[Karadalis]

Imagine germany making something like this... oh boy... good thing europe pays dictators and less then reputable goverments to keep refugees out of europe... right?

 

[Angerwing]

I find it funny that whenever this stuff comes up, the racists come out of the woodwork to say "They just want our dole money!" Right, because somebody is going to risk their life on a rickety boat going through stringest border control so they can two hundred dollars a week from centrelink. Wait, that's not funny at all, it's fucking disgusting and it makes me ashamed to be Australian. The best part is when the racist element claims that anybody who has some basic empathy is a bleeding heart leftist, as if that invalidates their opinion at all. Well, I'd rather be a bleeding heart leftist than a piece of bogan trash.

Why must another nation take the unwanted of another?
Why must any nation be forced to break its' laws?

These people are ILLEGAL, their first act in another country is breaking their laws.
Not only are they breaking the law, they're disrespecting the nation they are sneaking into.

You are wrong to think of it as a nation taking the 'unwanted' (persecuted?) of another, but rather as human beings who had the good fortune to be born in such a wealthy country as Australia helping out human beings who had the misfortunate of being born in a country where their sons might step on a fucking land mine. Sure, we're not obligated to help these people, but it's a critical failure as a human being to see it that way and think "Well, I guess they should fuck off back to where they came from!"

 

[marurder]

In reference to this comic. I think it's a better idea to stop them in their countries before they even leave. How they are treated when they get here/en route is appalling and that should be changed. if you want to stop people coming to a better place help make their place better. That is unfortunately easier said than done.

The Abbot Australian government I can compare to more communist states (China) in terms of freedom to media and their attitudes towards personal freedoms and a greater interest in preserving their power than making the country better in the long term.