SomethingAmazing said:
Hiphophippo said:
Boy I bet it's lonely in your little world.
What gave you that impression?
I just wouldn't say anything bad about any of the governments. They have the military and all. So, as a result, I support anything they go for.
And we might as well get rid of piracy and pornography while we're at it.
It looks like a troll, and it quacks like a troll, but he's standing by his statements...
Look, it seems you have the whole government thing backwards. In America anyway, the government's power comes from us. The people. It's right there in the preamble of the Constitution--go read it. No, here, I'll go get it for you.
Preamble of the US Constitution said:
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
See? Cut out all the fluff, and what you have is "We the People do ordain and establish this Constitution." Not the government. Not the politicians. Not the President. Not the military. No, those guys only exist because we said they could be there. Lookie here, this comes direction from the declaration of independence (which was essentially written as a love letter to King George claiming our independence and why we felt it necessary to do so):
Declaration of Independence said:
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,[74] that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
See the part I bolded there? We established our sovereignty as a country on this principle--the principle that if the government arranges itself so that it hinders Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness, the people do and should have the right to disassemble said government and reestablish another. If we decided to act upon this and try and come up with something better, they would be acting against the very document that made us who we are today. And who would want that?
If you aren't from the US, then I'm afraid not all of this applies to you. I'm not as intimately familiar with the governments of other countries. If you are, then I'm afraid you are selling your self quite short as a citizen. You have a lot of power--in fact, according to the framers of the constitution, you have ALL the power. We have all the power. We the People. This government exists for us and by us, not the other way around. And if ever they make you question that, just familiarize yourself with the articles and amendments of the constitution, and specifically the ninth and tenth amendments:
Ninth Amendment said:
The enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
Tenth Amendment said:
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
The first means that the rights given to the people in the constitution shall never be used to deny rights. In other words, they can't find some fancy way to interpret the first amendment that says they can, in fact, censor the press or prohibit protests in certain cases. No, the first amendment gives us that right, and so it belongs to us.
The second means that whatever powers are not given to anybody or are prohibited to the states or people,
belong to the states or the people. In other words, all rights and powers not specifically given or prohibited by the constitution belong to us. This was made to prevent the government from extending its powers into unknown territory, and using it as a loophole saying "Well, the constitution doesn't say, so that means it's alright."
Know your rights. Get involved. In the US anyway, we have EVERY right to talk bad about the government. We put them there, so it's our own fault and responsibility to deal with things if we think they have gotten out of hand. To say "Well, they have the military, and I can't beat that" is just a lazy excuse for not taking the time to get to know how the government works and what you can do to change it. If you don't want to know about the constitution or politics or whatever just say so. But don't you dare run around and say that because you don't have a military you are just a helpless little sheep.
Oh, and also, to answer your other claim about "Getting rid of" piracy and pornography, no matter how much you censor the Internet it will always exist. They'll just be pushed harder and harder to find sneakier places to put it and more illicit means of communication.
