Autistic UK Hacker faces being shipped out to the US.
- Thread starter Lord George
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I dont think it matters either way because either the british or americans will probably just make him hack into russian servers in excchange for his freedom.
I whonce knew someone who was arrested for hacking and now he works for the british government to test their security systems.
I whonce knew someone who was arrested for hacking and now he works for the british government to test their security systems.
Well assuming he gets the full 60 years, given he's what? 34? He'll probably die in prison. Not a problembloodmage2 said:
I doubt the US wants to put him in prison. They most likely want to use him to hack into other government computer systems.
You get punished in the country you commit the crime in. Std. european law procedure.
Ps. std. means standart here.
Ps. std. means standart here.
Is there different levels of severity of Aspberger's syndrome? I know there is an Autistic spectrum, but Aspberger's is on the higher end of it. That's why it's sometimes called "higher-functioning autism".
I've been diagnosed with the syndrome and I seriously doubt I'd be given any pity. Most people I know probably don't realize I have it (they probably just think I'm odd). So unless he has a "more severe" case of Aspberger's syndrome, his condition should only partly be considered.
While the title you've given this thread is technically accurate, please realize that it can make people think all of those disgnosed with Aspberger's Syndrome are at a lower developmental stage than some of us actually are.
I've been diagnosed with the syndrome and I seriously doubt I'd be given any pity. Most people I know probably don't realize I have it (they probably just think I'm odd). So unless he has a "more severe" case of Aspberger's syndrome, his condition should only partly be considered.
While the title you've given this thread is technically accurate, please realize that it can make people think all of those disgnosed with Aspberger's Syndrome are at a lower developmental stage than some of us actually are.
Damn, and here I was about to lay into the whole "arrest date" thing since it didn't at first show it to me in my "you've been quoted" message.Superbeast said:So you are concerned that he'll be let off in the English courts (unlikely since he's comfessed to the crime - it's more likely his condition will be taken into consideration and he'd escape incarcaration, but not punishment) but don't care if the American system daemonises him and gives him maximum sentence - far more than his crime deserves - for the purpose of public deterrant (aka making him a scapegoat)? Wow, that's harsh.
As for the French - they don't like you so much any more after the whole "french fries > freedom fries campaign and other Iraq war disagreements. They'd most likely root for us, then declare war on the spoils of victory
out: Ah well. Anyway.His condition really depends on its severity. I've spoken to quite a few individuals about this over the last couple weeks who are either AS themselves or have close friends who are and they've stated (to me at least) that his AS had little if anything to do with the situation. He knew what he was doing was wrong and had ample willpower to stop. The part that clinched it for them was the fact that he did so over the course of a year. Granted I can't prove any of this since it was random co-workers and close friends of mine who I spoke to, but that's good enough for me.
Yes I do have an issue with him getting off with only a slap on the wrist. It was a fairly major crime (as it was a fairly major failing of the US gov's to even allow it to happen) but that doesn't mean that he should be allowed to get away with it. I don't want him to get put away for the maximum sentence and I highly doubt that he ever would. Juries here in the States don't give out maximum sentences to every Tom, Dick and Harry that strolles in. I do believe there can be too much compassion for individuals. People need to be held accountable for their actions, plain and simple. Now, if it can be shown that he will get a fitting punishment for the crime, as if he had say, broken into England's computer system instead of the States', then I'll be satisfied. Individuals tend to be much more lenient when something hasn't happened in their own backyard.
Concerning the French, um, um, um... damnit, give me a sec, I'll come up with something. Well, they're still called french fries here! So we're all good, right guys? Right? :crickets: Well sh*t. :walks away pouting and yells back: WE STILL HAVE BIG GUNS! [sub]and those flying saucers! *twitch*[/sub]
wow thats pretty said that the u.s. defense network could be infiltrated by an AUTISTIC person.
Your argument relies largely on the phrases "If he had wanted to" and "could". The thing is, he could have done some major damage, but he didn't, he caused no damage and he didn't do any harm so he should get maybe a small fine and 6 months at most.barryween said:
God theres too many twats on this site. Who ever thinks he deserves to be extradited is a c**t. If i was the americans, i'd thank this guy for making us realise, we need better security. Hes got bloody aspergers syndrone! how can anybody think he deserves 60 years in an american prison. Its a shame because the british government bum up america so much (got knows why) and even tho they know its a stupid thing to do they wont step in.
Theres a few things wrong with this statement.PK2k9 said:
The UK system is crap at dealing with REAL criminals but this guy isnt a real threat to socioty is he? ive met 4 or so aspergers and being smart dosent mean your sane. his family made it pretty clear in the paper that he couldent handle it mentaly. The Daily Mail also did an article on previous hacking cases from europe and showed that the US were fairly harsh with the last autistic hacker.
I might not like the UK justice system but im sure it can handle a minor offence that caused no real damage, like this one!