Avatar Breaks Even, Surprises Everyone

Tiny116

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Torque669 said:
Wow ... I wish I had money like that. Hopefully James Cameron wont ruin this great movie by using the money to make a mediocre sequel
I'm not sure it was really set up for a sequel at the end myself
 

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CantFaketheFunk said:
Agreed. It completely crossed the Uncanny Valley - at least, for me personally.
It's less overcoming the Uncanny Valley and more averting it, since the movie renders big blue ersatz humans the unearthly look that is typical of rendered humans is masked by the Na'vi actually being aliens.

They are also neotenized to a degree with large facial features [http://filmonic.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/avatar-poster.JPG] helping to smooth over any empathetic bumps - this has been used to help audiences empathize with CG characters before, remember Smeagol [http://www.freewebs.com/roundie/Smeagol.jpg] with his disproportionately large head and features or Fiona [http://www.imotion.com.br/imagens/data/media/26/610fiona.jpg] and Shrek [http://lotgk.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/shrek.jpg]. None of which makes Avatar any less amazing but it's nice to remember that it is the culmination of nearly a decade of effort as well as an amazing achievement in its own right.
 

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I'm not surprised and rather pleased. It's a brilliant movie.

While the story is a cliche and some of the dialogue is sub pare is is one of thoughs cases where it honestly doesn't matter. This is movie is ALL about the visuals. I have never seen anything like. It's possibley the most beautiful movies I have ever seen. Much like the Fifth Element, this movie isn't about the story or the characters, it's about the sum of it's parts coming together to create something that is just amazing to sit and stare at.

Personally people who complain about the story being repeated 20 billion times just don't see the point of this film. You've never SEE anything like this.
 

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Good for them. I enjoyed the movie and would be disappointed (as I have been many times in the past) if it didn't at least break even.
 

bladeofdarkness

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whats with all the bad vibe against a sequel ?
did you people forget who's behind this movie after all
you know... james "the only thing i do better then making movies is making sequels" cameron
aliens
terminator 2: judgement day

you know, the absolute exception to the "all sequels suck" rule
 

MiracleOfSound

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Distorted Stu said:
All that money they could of given to charity... *sigh*
And Leonardo Da Vinci could have spent the commision on feeding Orphans instead of painting Mona Lisa, and the Beatles could have spent thier record labels' advances on charities instead of making St Pepper's...

Art is important. Without it we would not communicate and learn about eachother as well.
 

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Tiny116 said:
Torque669 said:
Wow ... I wish I had money like that. Hopefully James Cameron wont ruin this great movie by using the money to make a mediocre sequel
I'm not sure it was really set up for a sequel at the end myself
Well, they didn't kill off the humans. The humans are still quite powerful and I bet they still REALLY want the ore stuff that's under the big tree. The largest advantage the blues had was that the humans underestimated them. Obviously, they won't do that again, so it's possible that they will return.

Of course, the current relevance of corporation vs environment may still be an issue when a sequel may come out, but they will have to come up with a whole story out of their ass.]
 

Simalacrum

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Good on Avatar.

I didn't think it was the movie of the decade or whatever, but the generic storyline was done relatively well, and it was generally enjoyable, despite being predictable.

What really set it apart, of course, was the visuals... DAMN its a pretty film.
 

Alphavillain

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It's not really surprising that a CGI-crammed, eco-action spectacular is going to make lots of money. Although enormously expensive, it's an extremely conservative film in terms of its plot, characterisation and use of flashy set-pieces.
 

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Torque669 said:
Wow ... I wish I had money like that. Hopefully James Cameron wont ruin this great movie by using the money to make a mediocre sequel
But aliens was by far the best and it was a sequel (although the original wasnt his)

and the next ones were done by other people

same could be said of the terminator series sequel better thatn the first then directed by others and the series teeters downhill

so it should be hopefully someone else doesnt make a sequel to his movie
 

SecondmateFlint

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I feel like a definite minority. I didn't really like Avatar. I know I know, I didn't like the story. I'm sorry! I'm a film student, I watch things looking for the story and since film is just a visual medium of storytelling NOT having a good story seems wrong to me.

But my god what graphics. I forgot I was watching a computer movie, I really did. I will hold everything else to this, (well AVATAR did it, why can't you?) but overall I didn't really like it. Sorry everyone.

Good thing it made its money back or James Cameron would be living in the poor house the rest of his life. Amazing, amazing visuals.
 

Casual Shinji

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Heathrow said:
CantFaketheFunk said:
Agreed. It completely crossed the Uncanny Valley - at least, for me personally.
It's less overcoming the Uncanny Valley and more averting it, since the movie renders big blue ersatz humans the unearthly look that is typical of rendered humans is masked by the Na'vi actually being aliens.

They are also neotenized to a degree with large facial features [http://filmonic.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/avatar-poster.JPG] helping to smooth over any empathetic bumps - this has been used to help audiences empathize with CG characters before, remember Smeagol [http://www.freewebs.com/roundie/Smeagol.jpg] with his disproportionately large head and features or Fiona [http://www.imotion.com.br/imagens/data/media/26/610fiona.jpg] and Shrek [http://lotgk.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/shrek.jpg]. None of which makes Avatar any less amazing but it's nice to remember that it is the culmination of nearly a decade of effort as well as an amazing achievement in its own right.
That's what I was gonna say.

The reason Beowulf looked a bit off was because it featured realistic looking humans. I still think that The Polar Express looks better than Beowulf, because it has this water colored Christmass card look to it instead of being ultra realistic.
The biggest problem I have with realistic CGI characters is that the main characters look very well designed, but the extras always look bland since they're unimportant to the story and thus don't receive the same amount of creative effort.
 

LeonLethality

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nilcypher said:
$237 million dollars
... I think you only need to put dollars on one side...

I'm not surprised it made more than it spent because of all the people I hear calling it awesome. it was okay to me but nothing more