Bad Films...that need a good sequel (or remake!)

[Starbird]

What are they for you? You know...those movies that you watched (probably because they were based on something you love) and absolutely hated.

For me:

1) Green Lantern.
With all the awesome material they had to draw on from the continuity...they had to completely muck it up with this continuity killer? Please remake this movie. Give us Evil Jordan. Give us the GL Corps. Give us Sinestro Corps. Hell, do whatever you want. Just do it better.

2) The Punisher.
This would have to be a remake of a sequel. The oringinal Punisher was awful, missed the character by a mile and was horribly tame aside from one totally unneeded squick scene where an innocent character is horribly tortured.

Punisher Warzone...well, it tried. It started bloody well, with the origin of Jigsaw, good gore but then went all Constantine with remakes of awesome Punisher MAX characters that had almost nothing to do with the originals and sucked horribly.

You know, almost every single arc of MAX would make a good film, especially the two arcs involving the Russians. Just keep it true to the material.

3) Mortal Kombat.
Okay, okay. The original was cool, dumb fun when we were kids. The soundtrack was fantastic. But the sequel and everything that followed after was absolutely horrible. And while the remake could be interesting, it's not Mortal Kombat. We need a real Mortal Kombat movie, with the cheesy story, awesome gore, good fights and a focus on the tournament.

4) Constantine/Hellblazer.
Oh boy, don't get me started on this one. The original film was okay, as a standalone movie. Not good, not bad, some cool scenes but generally meh. It wasn't a Hellblazer movie at all however, which is what bugged me to no end. And...casting Keanu as John? What the hell man?

5)Daredevil.
I've never worked out what went wrong with this movie. It was a bit kiddified, sure. But nothing about it was horrible on paper. A black Kingpin? Fine. Bullseye? Awesome. Fight scenes? Not horrible. And yet...it sucked. Go and look at Frank Miller's stuff, since everything of his seems to be getting made into a movie.

How about you?

 

[Thaluikhain]

No to Green Lantern, there's plenty of other superheroes out there that haven't got a movie yet (and don't get me started on the superheroines). Now the Green Lantern Corps, fine.

Um, AVP?

 

[DugMachine]

Spawn! That movie was complete crap

 

[Nantucket_v1legacy]

My dream is coming true as they are re-making Manimal and apparently Aaron Ackhart may be taking on the role.

They should remake Terminator.
The original 80s film was great (or so I thought back then) and I had no problem with it but I would love to see what they could do with the CGI now. They could still have it set in the 80s which would be fun to see.

 

[Starbird]

Spawn! That movie was complete crap

Thing is though...exactly how good could Spawn be?

The comic had it's moments, back when McFarlane actually knew how to *finish* an arc. But as a movie? The entire concept has been done to death already.

My dream is coming true as they are re-making Manimal and apparently Aaron Ackhart may be taking on the role.

They should remake Terminator.
The original 80s film was great (or so I thought back then) and I had no problem with it but I would love to see what they could do with the CGI now. They could still have it set in the 80s which would be fun to see.

I *shudder* to think what a modern Terminator remake would be like.

 

[Marter]

I *shudder* to think what a modern Terminator remake would be like.

It would look like Drive Angry!

So, probably not a good thing to remake it.

OT: I still want my Van Helsing sequel, so ... yeah.

 

[DugMachine]

Spawn! That movie was complete crap

Thing is though...exactly how good could Spawn be?

The comic had it's moments, back when McFarlane actually knew how to *finish* an arc. But as a movie? The entire concept has been done to death already.

Mostly out of nostalgia. I know the story isn't amazing but I love the style and I grew up on MacFarlane action figures and comics

 

[BloatedGuppy]

Yeah please don't remake Terminator, Hollywood. PLEASE. Like Alien/Aliens the original still stands up just fine, and looks better than 90% of the CGI riddled crap we get hoisted on us yearly. It's also dark and melancholy, and not cheesy as fuck or stupidly optimistic, which a remake would inevitably be.

 

[Owyn_Merrilin]

Star Trek V. It was the worst Star Trek film (or at least, the worst of the original six), but it was also the one that hands down had the best premise. To give you an idea of how much I like the premise, I have it sitting on my shelf in movie form, book form, and comic book form. The book is the best of the three, with the comic still being better than the movie. Unfortunately, executive meddling killed it. William Shatner (who directed it) wanted to tell a serious story, Star Trek at its best. Unfortunately Paramount wanted a Star Trek IV-style comedy, and we got a nasty mish mash of the two. Of course I don't really want a remake. I just want Paramount to approve a The Motion Picture-style director's cut. STV has a /lot/ more to gain from a DC than TMP did, since TMP was already a good (if slow and in need of more editing) movie. STV was a horribly botched execution of a wonderful premise.

 

[Sean Hollyman]

I thought The Punisher was cool D:

Remake the Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers movie but make it dark and kick ass and with cool CGI. The CGI in that movie was awful! Make a new version of the theme song too and bring back Ron Wasserman!

 

[TheIronRuler]

Waterworld and Constantine.

Make a good Constantine movie based off the comics and I will buy tickets to see it half a dozen times.

Waterworld has potential, but the script can be heavily rewritten and it can be a really good movie.

BTW, I would like to have a Punisher remake for the sake of a new Punisher movie.

 

[CrimsonBlaze]

I don't know why they couldn't just make Spider-Man 4. Stan Lee himself said that the next villain in line would've been The Lizard, Gwen Stacy was introduced to be Peter's new love interest, and Mary Jane was going to step out due to the events of Spider-Man 3 (i.e. Kristen Dunst's absence wouldn't be apparent).

Instead, Sony had to wheel in the Twilight crap wagon and appeal the the audience with the most financial appeal at the time: teenage girls and mid-aged women. The results: a movie that resembles the Spider-Man mythos in name and in subtle origin traits only.

 

[BNguyen]

Actually, even though I haven't seen the movie, I'd like to see a Green Lantern remake based off of moviebob's simplified examination of the comics, it could be made into two movies
1) the origin (and use of the version where he was a pilot from the 50's or something
2) when his hometown is destroyed and he goes insane up to the point where he regains himself long enough to die a hero (or something along those lines)

 

[Ignatz_Zwakh]

I rarely smile upon the idea of remakes, but one film in particular actually made me pause and think "Maybe a different director could have made a fantastic film out of this.."

That film is called "Bullhead". It was nominated for best foreign pic last year (Lordy knows why) and while they're certain elements of it that are fantastic (The acting, bits of the story and the setting) it just didn't work for me, as film. It's narrative was a jumbled mess, juggling three different plots for almost two hours before dumping all save one and then ending abruptly and flatly.
What was most painful was seeing how a fantastic film could have come of it, if only it hadn't been all over the place. Now, it was a first-time feature for the director, so Imma peg it on that, but still, it's a pity. Some great moments and performances does not a great movie make.

 

[Meatspinner]

They already did Judge Dredd. The best movie of the decade,FACT!). So i'm happy.

Maybe a Starship Trooper movie that's closer to the book

 

[Legion]

A decent sequel to the original Starship Troopers film would be nice. The second and third films were just appalling and lazy.

 

[Vigormortis]

One, fairly recent, film springs to mind:

Tron Legacy

Don't get me wrong, I loved the hell out of that movie. But damn...the writing was terrible and roughly half of the acting mediocre. The only truly redeeming things of that film were the fantastic soundtrack, Jeff Bridges, Olivia Wilde, Bruce Boxleitner, and Joseph Kosinski's amazing world/set/character designs.

That said, just as with the first film, there is still a LOT of potential within this story-verse. It could be used to tell both an exciting adventure/conflict type of tale as well as to comment on contemporary technology and it's place in todays society. It's a shame Disney seems less interested in exploring the story-verse than they are in just exploiting it.

 

[ProfessorLayton]

I wouldn't necessarily call it a "bad film," but Drive definitely should have been done differently. The scenes in which he actually drives his car, like the title would suggest, are nearly perfect. If the film was about how he used his observational and technical skills to be a good getaway driver, it might have been a lot better. Instead, it's a revenge movie about characters we don't really care about. I think there was so much wasted potential there. I know Nicolas Winding Refn is talented, I just with that he could have done the movie differently.

 

[Coffeejack]

Eragon. That one was a terrible disappointment. Nearly every character seemed to be poorly cast.

Postal. Uwe Boll struck again. I though the film's one funny moment was during the job interview scene, when the protagonist is asked the question "What is the difference between a duck?"

 

[Vigormortis]

A decent sequel to the original Starship Troopers film would be nice. The second and third films were just appalling and lazy.

Would you settle for a remake? There are plans in the works to "reboot" the film.

From what I've been hearing it will be less like Paul Verhoevens film and more like the original Robert A. Heinlein novel from 1959.

I'm glad the production is moving more towards the original story. I've never been fond of Verhoeven's adaptation.

Granted, there are a lot of themes and socio-political concepts brought up in the novel that I, and many others, don't "agree" with. However, the original story is still far better than the one present in the film. If perhaps a tad more "thought-heavy" than it is "action-heavy".

But really, the novel's representation of the future world was far more interesting than the films. For simplicity's sake, think of it this way:

In the film, the "roughnecks" are just a bunch of marines with goofy looking, football-padding-inspired armor and big rifles. Almost no mobile armored presence of any kind.

The bugs are a collection of...well...just bugs. Nothing special about them.

In the novel, the "roughnecks" are more like Spartans from Halo. (a series that takes a LOT of inspiration from Starship Troopers) Only, more "robust". They wear powered armor suits that allow them to jump-jet around the battlefield, drop planetside from orbit, gave them heightened senses, increased strength, etc.

Also in the novel, the bugs were a highly advanced species. Complete with their own starships, advanced particle weaponry, etc. They were also part of a "collective" of alien species. (think Covenant. (again, Halo took a lot from this novel))

Spoiler: Heinlein essentially created the concept of space marines and power-armor suits

From the wiki:
In addition to Heinlein's political views, Starship Troopers popularized a number of military concepts and innovations, some of which have inspired real life research. The novel's most noted innovation is the powered armor exoskeletons used by the Mobile Infantry.[24] These suits were controlled by the wearer's own movements, but powerfully augmented a soldier's strength, speed, weight carrying capacity (which allowed much heavier personal armament), jumping ability (including jet and rocket boost assistance), and provided the wearer with improved senses (infrared vision and night vision, radar, and amplified hearing), a completely self-contained personal environment including a drug-dispensing apparatus, sophisticated communications equipment, and tactical map displays. Their powered armor made the Mobile Infantry a hybrid between an infantry unit and an armored one.

Another concept the book pioneered was that of "space-borne infantry". The heavily mechanized units of M.I. troops were attached to interstellar troop transport spacecraft, which then delivered them to planetary target zones, by dropping groups of Mobile Infantrymen onto the planet surface from orbit via individual re-entry capsules (hence the book's slang term "cap troopers" for M.I. troops). The uses for such a force?ranging from smash-and-burn raids, to surgical strikes, conventional infantry warfare, and holding beachheads?and the tactics that might be employed by such soldiers are described extensively within the novel. The tactics, training, and many other aspects of this futuristic elite force are carefully detailed: everything from the function of the armored suits themselves, to the need for multiple variants of powered armor, to the training of personnel in both suit operations and the specialized unit tactics that would be needed, to the operational use of the suits in combat.

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I guess you could say, if things turn out as planned, this new Starship Troopers film could be the Halo film fans were hoping for.