2) The Punisher.
This would have to be a remake of a sequel. The oringinal Punisher was awful, missed the character by a mile and was horribly tame aside from one totally unneeded squick scene where an innocent character is horribly tortured.
Are you refering to the Thomas Jane punisher here or the Dolph lungren Punisher?
Starbird said:
4) Constantine/Hellblazer.
Oh boy, don't get me started on this one. The original film was okay, as a standalone movie. Not good, not bad, some cool scenes but generally meh. It wasn't a Hellblazer movie at all however, which is what bugged me to no end. And...casting Keanu as John? What the hell man?
I haven't read the book but ive been told that there is much more of an emphasis on the recruitment and boot camp process ala Full Metal Jacket rather than the war against the arachnids.
I know there is also speculation that the reboot of the story will be considerably less violent than its predecessor.
You were informed well. The book did have a much stronger emphasis on the interpersonal interaction with the characters, using them as avatars to analyze a host of socio-political ideals. Most of the book centers around Rico's recruitment and advancement within the military, with many of the key events told via flashback.
In fact, there was only one significant "battle" scene in the entire novel. But it was quite imaginative.
It's exactly (on paper) what I wanted to see in a film adaptation of the novel. Retention of the philosophical themes but with much stronger emphasis on the action, keying on the conflict with the Bugs.
With nothing more than a snippet from an interview, you've managed to make my day. Thanks.
My sister suggested Watchmen, but instead of being redone as movie, it should be redone as a series of hour long tv episodes, with a massive HBO budget. That way it would better capture the episodic feel of the comic, as well as being allowed to take it's time and explore the full depth of the story and characters, something which the Zack Snyder version definitely did not do (though the Dr. Manhattan sequence was still pretty cool).
Oh God, yes, that would be fucking awesome! Kind of like Heroes, except?not like Heroes, especially with the seasons after 1.
As long as they retained Jackie Earle Haley as Rorschach, Jeffrey Dean Morgan as the Comedian, Billy Crudup as Dr. Manhattan, and Patrick Wilson as Nite Owl II (I don?t think you?ll get actors more suited for their roles than those guys), then I?d be happy. And, if Zack Snyder was kept on as director, they?d have to tell him to cut down on the slow-mo and over-the-top cartoony gore. It?s meant to be a serious drama that deconstructs society and superheroes in general, not a wacky action film that skimps on its message in favour of dumbing things down for the audience).
Well, considering Marvel recently got back the movie rights for Daredevil and Punisher, your wish could very well be granted. Marvel Studios is batting nearly 1000 at this point, so if they DID decide to give those guys new movies, it's a sure bet they'd be better than the originals.
And yes, Daredevil and Punisher are my answer, too.
-Green Hornet... There were a few good things in it. I would like to see more except with better stuff.
-Van Helsing.
-Battlefield earth and the Room...for more lulz
It's exactly (on paper) what I wanted to see in a film adaptation of the novel. Retention of the philosophical themes but with much stronger emphasis on the action, keying on the conflict with the Bugs.
With nothing more than a snippet from an interview, you've managed to make my day. Thanks.
Also, with a quick cursory glance at the article, I saw this:
"One of the speakers was Zack Stentz, screenwriter on Thor, X-Men: First Class, and the upcoming reboot of Starship Troopers."
My first thought was, "Wait wait wait. One of the guys penning the script for the Starship Troopers reboot penned the scripts for Thor and X-Men: First Class?"
Which was immediately followed by, "Yep. I'm sold. Can't wait to see this."
'Course, I've yet to see who they've brought on to direct. So...who knows how it'll end up.
AEon Flux was such a wonderfully weird little action cartoon that was saddled with a absolutely wretched movie adaptation. While I liked the look of the film (the "organic tech"), the pacing felt off, character motivations were totally mixed up, and it toned the action and sexuality down to an almost comical degree in order to secure a PG-13.
An ideal AEon Flux movie would be a hard R, have the weird bondage costumes, and tell an incredibly bizzarre, yet deeply philosophical story about oppression, love, religion, and war. But then everyone would just think it was ripping off The Matrix and it would tank.
Well, considering Marvel recently got back the movie rights for Daredevil and Punisher, your wish could very well be granted. Marvel Studios is batting nearly 1000 at this point, so if they DID decide to give those guys new movies, it's a sure bet they'd be better than the originals.
And yes, Daredevil and Punisher are my answer, too.
The Last Airbender:
Based on a FANTASTIC cartoon, but somehow screwed up to hell.
Vision of Escaflowne - The Girl From Gaea:
Again, based on a GREAT, classic, anime series (and not too shabby manga).
It's just a damn shame the movie was all levels of 'bad fan-fict'.
Argh argh argh yes. I remember this so well. Such a *brilliant* example of what I love and hate about Tod McFarlane.
His art is awesome. His dialogue is great. His stories are interesting. His characters are boilerplate, but pretty cool.
And yes he always seems to get bored halfway through an arc and then just abandon it as it's getting good. Spawn the comic and Spawn the cartoon were much the same in this regard.
Okay, I have to admit, upon seeing the thread title my first thought was in fact Green Lantern. There is so much in that mythos that to screw it up as bad as they did is just sad.
If you didn't like the first two you won't even want to see the third one, lol. The first one is definitely the best if you ask me. Second is meh. And for the third I think they were just like, "Hey, let's just screw the plot and add in as much fighting as possible."
Would you settle for a remake? There are plans in the works to "reboot" the film.
From what I've been hearing it will be less like Paul Verhoevens film and more like the original Robert A. Heinlein novel from 1959.
I'm glad the production is moving more towards the original story. I've never been fond of Verhoeven's adaptation.
Granted, there are a lot of themes and socio-political concepts brought up in the novel that I, and many others, don't "agree" with. However, the original story is still far better than the one present in the film. If perhaps a tad more "thought-heavy" than it is "action-heavy".
But really, the novel's representation of the future world was far more interesting than the films. For simplicity's sake, think of it this way:
In the film, the "roughnecks" are just a bunch of marines with goofy looking, football-padding-inspired armor and big rifles. Almost no mobile armored presence of any kind.
The bugs are a collection of...well...just bugs. Nothing special about them.
In the novel, the "roughnecks" are more like Spartans from Halo. (a series that takes a LOT of inspiration from Starship Troopers) Only, more "robust". They wear powered armor suits that allow them to jump-jet around the battlefield, drop planetside from orbit, gave them heightened senses, increased strength, etc.
Also in the novel, the bugs were a highly advanced species. Complete with their own starships, advanced particle weaponry, etc. They were also part of a "collective" of alien species. (think Covenant. (again, Halo took a lot from this novel))
From the wiki: In addition to Heinlein's political views, Starship Troopers popularized a number of military concepts and innovations, some of which have inspired real life research. The novel's most noted innovation is the powered armor exoskeletons used by the Mobile Infantry.[24] These suits were controlled by the wearer's own movements, but powerfully augmented a soldier's strength, speed, weight carrying capacity (which allowed much heavier personal armament), jumping ability (including jet and rocket boost assistance), and provided the wearer with improved senses (infrared vision and night vision, radar, and amplified hearing), a completely self-contained personal environment including a drug-dispensing apparatus, sophisticated communications equipment, and tactical map displays. Their powered armor made the Mobile Infantry a hybrid between an infantry unit and an armored one.
Another concept the book pioneered was that of "space-borne infantry". The heavily mechanized units of M.I. troops were attached to interstellar troop transport spacecraft, which then delivered them to planetary target zones, by dropping groups of Mobile Infantrymen onto the planet surface from orbit via individual re-entry capsules (hence the book's slang term "cap troopers" for M.I. troops). The uses for such a force?ranging from smash-and-burn raids, to surgical strikes, conventional infantry warfare, and holding beachheads?and the tactics that might be employed by such soldiers are described extensively within the novel. The tactics, training, and many other aspects of this futuristic elite force are carefully detailed: everything from the function of the armored suits themselves, to the need for multiple variants of powered armor, to the training of personnel in both suit operations and the specialized unit tactics that would be needed, to the operational use of the suits in combat.
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I guess you could say, if things turn out as planned, this new Starship Troopers film could be the Halo film fans were hoping for.
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