Bad Parents? Really?

[thatstheguy]

Man, I'm getting stressed just by reading about your life. Well, I can't say I really blame kids for not appreciating what they have. When you aren't working towards something it can be hard to understand the effort that goes into it. I think parents should show their kids what they have to do on a daily basis so they can better understand why they do what they do to them.

 

[Bob_Bobbington]

Wow, Sony really lost it when the PS13 came out, I mean buying Nintendo was a bad move.

Sony will never have that much money

I'd like to think that someday, someday...Nintendo can finally cough it's last withering breath and die. But as long as there are 5 year old brats screaming "WANT WANT WANT!" this will never happen...

Do I sense a little bit of Nintendo hate there. But I think Nintendo will never die. Well not in my lifetime anyway (and I'm happy with that). If anything it'll be the other way around.

 

[Fraught]

So my question is this: What do you think you would do when you are 45yo and your son is playing Super Mario Paedophile Adventure on his PS17?

My question is this: What kind of a stupid example of a game is that?

Are you really comparing the games children these days play to whatever of Mario (on a PlayStation nonetheless) you just made up in your mind?

And why are you talking about the sacrifices made when a child is born, to videogames? What do they have to do with the question your first set out to answer? Literally, nothing.

I understand that you're a very nice parent, and you moved, to accommodate for your child, and get little sleep, which is why kids should really be thankful to their parents when they grow up, but really, what has this got to do with videogames?
Taking away videogames from your child doesn't have anything to do with what happened years ago, when said child was born.

 

[fishman279]

Wow, Sony really lost it when the PS13 came out, I mean buying Nintendo was a bad move.

Sony will never have that much money

I'd like to think that someday, someday...Nintendo can finally cough it's last withering breath and die. But as long as there are 5 year old brats screaming "WANT WANT WANT!" this will never happen...

Do I sense a little bit of Nintendo hate there. But I think Nintendo will never die. Well not in my lifetime anyway (and I'm happy with that). If anything it'll be the other way around.

You DO sense the hate? I thought I was the only one I've not liked Nintendo since they destroyed my much loved Pokemon series by adding more of them then transferring it to the DS. Also for the fact that most people have one (I don't know why that annoys me, actually. It just does.) But don't take me as a fan of Sony either, I'm an Xbox man myself.

 

[Kriptonite]

So you're going to put an end to the complaining..........by complaining?

I was a little confused about this also. Anyway, you could have just said suck it up and deal with it and caught much less flak.

 

[AndyFromMonday]

The problem here is with the attitude of the parent towards certain things and even the way the parent is(Pretentious, always quick to get into an argument etc). For e.g., my parents told me that drugs are bad and I'm gonna die if I even experiment with them. What did this attitude led to? Me trying drugs(Only weed, never went into stronger stuff). The more my parents didn't inform me and said "No, this is bad, never do this" the more I wanted to do that thing.

I remember when the parents of a colleague in my class never let him outside. Their reason for not giving him the deserved liberty was that "something might happen to him, so we must take every single action towards preventing something bad happening to him". By the time the class reached grade 7, he already became anti social.



So, we've established that the kid's attitude is really just a product of the attitude their parents had toward certain things that the kid wanted to know more about or something the kid enjoyed doing(I.E playing video games, know the actual details about drug use etc).

Also, when did anyone make a thread complaining about them not getting the present they wanted? The only "complain about family" thread was the one where a dude was complaining about his dad having a bad attitude towards gaming without even considering it's just for entertainment".

So, w/e their child grows up to be as a pre-teen, teen and even an adult is the parent's direct fault.

 

[Bob_Bobbington]

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You DO sense the hate? I thought I was the only one I've not liked Nintendo since they destroyed my much loved Pokemon series by adding more of them then transferring it to the DS. Also for the fact that most people have one (I don't know why that annoys me, actually. It just does.) But don't take me as a fan of Sony either, I'm an Xbox man myself.

The avatar kind of gives it away. But Nintendo really doesn't bother me for one main reason. I'm too poor to buy any of the new handhelds so I just play Crystal on my GBA.

 

[Misterian]

I say, if you're worried about the mature content of a game, if that's what you're asking about, you should simply make sure your child is well aware of how bad the mature content is in real life, if you know what I mean.

I was perfectly aware of this sort of thing when I started played M-rated games, and around age 8, and no one ever heard me blur out any curse words or anything like that. honestly!

 

[Shru1kan]

As long as my kids passing and not get arrested he can do whatever he wants, Shit i'll probably be with him the first time he smokes pot and alcohol.

How does one smoke alcohol?

And this guy has a point, guys. Dont complain about your Christmas presents, and they put a roof over your head. Btw, I'm not 30 or out on my own, I'm 17 and at home.

 

[DayDark]

every video game he touches will have gone through me first. Every machine he plays will have been set up by my hand. I'll teach him why shit is bad and why others aren't.

now and again I'll check up on what he's playing, and if I see something which I find questionable, I'll ask him why that would be bad in RL, and if he gives an answer I wont like, I'll take it away.

 

[GotMurf]

After 16-17 years I will have invested more love, time, energy and money in my boy than you can possibly imagine. At that point it is possible my son will be playing some sort of game on some sort of machine that I dont quite understand but I think is probably bad for him. I have no idea what I will do. But I might take away his computer/games/not buy stuff for him and feel completely justified in my actions.

So my question is this: What do you think you would do when you are 45yo and your son is playing Super Mario Paedophile Adventure on his PS17?

Well gee, how about you act like a sensible human being and sit down with your child and TRY to understand this game, and what they like/dislike? That's called being a parent.

And 'Super Mario Paedophile Adventure' was a horribly bad example because there's no way in hell 'evil' in games is THAT blatant. Would ANYONE seriously publish/sell/buy a game like that in the first place?

Your job and role as a parent isn't to take things away from your kids 'because you said so' or because you think it's bad for them, it's to sit down and treat them like human beings, give them your reasoning and try understand theirs- then we reach something adults like to call Compromise, where both sides are fulfilled/happy, and nobody ends up hating the other. Really, if you just take time to try and understand and relate with your children instead of instantly writing it off as 'something you don't understand' (and then typically, something you hate, as we all known humans hate what they don't understand).

Please please bear in mind that this was NOT a personal dig at you. I'm very happy for you, and I'm sure you'll make an excellent father, just remember what I've said, and what others have said. It was more a jab at parents, or what PASS as parents these days.

 

[Danny Ocean]

You shouldn't block out the unknown and dangerous, you should arm yourself with education.

Better yet, arm him. Really sit him down and explain to him why he shouldn't play them. Just telling him he can't do something he enjoys will just make him hate you, and rightly so.

I think I might've posted in this thread already, but whatever, I'm tired.

 

[archvile93]

I'll raise my kid right, and make him play Duke Nukem...just like my dad did to me...

Your dad sounds awsome.

 

[Ultress]

*DOOR BURSTS OPEN*
ARE YOU WINNING SON?!

.. its the menu screen, Dad....

I'd be this guy's dad in an ironic sense, so I'd pretty much be Ichigo's dad from Bleach except without the physical activity.

In reality I don't know the kind of dad I would be, just try not to do the things my dad did, which really only requires not getting meningitis and controlling my anger.

 

[Nmil-ek]

I'mma sit my son right down infront of the TV and tell him to his face you headshot 5 motherfuckers or no damned dinner, that'll set I'm straight.

 

[e2density]

Really, unless your kid is always stabbing children in school with pencils, let him play whatever video game he wants.

 

[Nouw]

Some of us do have legitimate reasons to ***** about our parents just so you know.

Yes, just so you know.

OT: I am thankful. Just sometimes they stick a long sharp knife up our heads.

 

[MelasZepheos_v1legacy]

Hmm.

I think a lot of the problems stem from this lack of understanding. My parents didn't initially like me playing console games because they didn't understand consoles, or PCs. They grew up in a time when such things didn't exist. I think this extends to a lot of parents, some just decide to take instead of learn. (I still think the kids on here whine a lot, I just think that knowledge is the salve of the uneasy, not taking things away.)

My parents learned about computers, and then they actually listened when I tried to explain console gaming. They don't mind me playing games now, just when i play too long, which is related to eyestrain and health issues, not content.

This generation has grown up with computers being a massive part of everyday life, and this looks set to continue. Unless there is a massive innovation in technology which creates another generation gap as wide as ours, the future parents will be more tolerant of their children's gaming, becuase they will understand it.

To sum up, if you played football and your dad played football, he understands the attraction to football and gets why you play it. Your dad never played video games like yours, he doesn't understand them.

 

[Shru1kan]

They are legally--to say nothing of morally--obligated to put a roof over your head. That has nothing to do with why they get to be your guardian. It's not like if you live in public housing, that means those kids don't have to listen to their parents like the kids who live under roofs their parents paid for do. The right to direct the upbringing of a child has nothing to do with putting a roof over your head. Sure, if you *fail* to put a roof over you child's head, they take your parental powers away, but parental powers flow from the *relationship of the parent and child* no matter how broke-ass the parent may be.

I can say one word. Adoption. Hear me out. In some states, including mine, up until the age of 18 you can be literally dumped at a firehouse and sent into foster care.

They paid for your clothes, food, water, bedding, birthday gifts, Christmas gifts, electricity, hobbies, allowance, eventually give you their car to use on your own, etc etc. At any point, they could have given up and abandoned you, legal or not.

Now if they're "cool" (my parents didn't believe in videogames until I was 15, so I always went to a friends house to play once a week) they might buy you a play-ninten-box-thingamajig. Now, after all of those expenses (which total over 108 thousand a year if you want them to go to COMMUNITY college), you ask for a 300 dollar system and games, which cost 60 a pop.

They have every damn right to refuse you a system, a computer, a game, if they see fit. I wasn't brought up with a household system besides a desktop you could barely play solitaire on without it freezing, and was only allowed a half hour a DAY on it. Did I complain? No. Why? I knew better, I knew that they wanted what was best.

So, no, you aren't ENTITLED to ANYTHING after they pay that much money for your ass a year. No, I wasn't beaten, I wasn't brought up catholic, I saw the fact of life young. We aren't poor, my dad makes 6 figures a year, we have a modest house. I'm sick of brats that think they DESERVE things. Whats worse are the parents that get their kids into this mentality by not saying no and sticking to it (of course if some mothers learned to say no, they wouldn't HAVE kids, but I digress), and by extension, other kids, who see this in the store, hear about it through friends, befriend your child, etc etc.

Its a mutual shortfall of good parenting, but the kid has NO room to complain if they know how much love and money was sunk into just sending them to public school and keeping them alive and clothed each night.

 

[Jiggabyte]

We like to think we're going to be sane enough to be the cool parents we never had, but truth is you're going to be that way to your kids after a decade of thankless work raising them.
If I ever find myself about to become a parent I want to tape myself as a record that at one point I wasn't a boring old man, and this transformation will happen to the next generation as much as they believe it won't.