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KefkaCultist

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1) Slipknot; stupidest argument I've heard is, "they suck because they need 9 members to sound good," So they sound good but they suck because their different?
It's because they really are not that great (I find them merely alright, but that's not the point). And having nine members in your band and being out-done by a one-man project whose sole member is far younger than all of your members does not bode well for your band, really.
How haven't I heard of this band/guy before? I'm putting him on my itunes right now. Thanks for the referral
 

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Metallica and Megadeth. They don't get nearly as much hate as most of the bands mentioned and they're both very popular and successful, but a ton of their fans hate each other just for preferring one above the other. I think it's because of the fighting done between Mustaine and the members of Metallica, but I'm pretty sure they've put that behind them now.

They're both really great bands, don't see why their fans continue to fight...
 

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Contun said:
Metallica and Megadeth. They don't get nearly as much hate as most of the bands mentioned and they're both very popular and successful, but a ton of their fans hate each other just for preferring one above the other. I think it's because of the fighting done between Mustaine and the members of Metallica, but I'm pretty sure they've put that behind them now.

They're both really great bands, don't see why their fans continue to fight...
Is there really that much hostility? I know a few people who dislike Megadeth simply because they don't like Mustaine's somewhat glam-influenced vocal style, but I never met a Megadeth fan who didn't at least appreciate some period of Metallica, and most Metallica fans who like the old stuff like the songs that Mustaine wrote on "Kill 'Em All"...
 

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People that absolutely hate bands beyond (artistic) dislike are retarded anyway.

I've scorned and ridiculed the hipster/emo/goth/metal crowd on multiple occasions, but I don't hate the music.

Nickelback, for all its generic blandness (although the first two albums were okay); Justin Bieber, for all its corporate cynicism, they are people making money. People buy their shit, and therefore there are people who like it.

You can't argue about taste, but you can argue about the merits of something popular. If people like what you do, you're doing something right.

But let me turn on my rosy-tinted glasses of nostalgia and days of yonder, and say that Nirvana gets a lot of flack. Certainly, it's not technical, but it was never ment to be judged on technical merits.
 

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Lady Gaga gets a lot of hate, probably because of her revealing clothing, and bizarre fashion sense. She's not a bad singer, but she's an acquired taste to a lot of people. Personally, I don't really like her that much, but I don't hate her as a person, really. One of my friends saw her live, said it's the greatest thing she's ever seen. Personally, Muse live was the greatest thing ever.
 

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JeanLuc761 said:
This should be interesting.

My choice is going to have to be...Nickelback. They're the definition of generic rock, I'll grant you, but I still think the hate against them is borderline absurd. Plus, god save me, I do love "Into the Night" and "If Today Was Your Last Day"
The only Nickelback song I currently admit to liking is "Burn It To the Ground".
 

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Miley Cyrus

Yeah sure her new look might be look a tad slutty. But she is freaking 17 she aint Hanna Montana anymore people should applaud her for going her own way. But instead she get flamed to hell because people are afraid that their kids will take the wrong idol.

It is the parents job to raise their kids if a teen idol matures a bit you shouldnt rage on her for doing so. You should just stop blaming her and do shit yourself.
Bro, I don't know anyone who hates Miley Cyrus because she's slutty. They just don't like her, period. And I assure you, she's not going "her own way". Any change she makes is a change designed to make more money. She is a product, a product that is owned by a company. They decide everything that she does for the best interest of their company. It has nothing to do with Miley being independent.
THEAFRONINJA said:
I'll go for Nickelback, I mean, they're not awful. just unbelievably boring and generic. And Chad Kroeger is an asshole. But I saw that video where he gets rocks thrown at him... not cool.

Also, Eminem. Yeah, I know, he whines a lot, but in a lot of his stuff he can be very funny, and his lyrics can be very clever (please don't reply with a bunch of bad lyrics from him, you just look sad).
Um if a band is "unbelievably boring and generic", than I would indeed describe them as awful. And Nickelback is indeed awful.

I used to like Eminem, but all his new stuff is complete garbage and all the people that used to think he was weird love him now. He's doing songs with the kind of people he used to make fun of. And why would bringing up Eminem's bad lyrics make me look sad? That would provide a completely valid counterargument in your saying he's clever. That's like if I said the Hindenburg was a flawless, amazing aircraft (please don't reply with "It blew the fuck up", you just look sad).
 

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Maybe its because I live in England and he hasn't caught on over here in the same way, but I had no idea who Justin Bieber was until I started seeing people on the interenet complain about him. I've listened to one of his songs once (I felt I should check out the most viewed video on YouTube).
People get very worked up about something that is both trivial and that they don't need to subject themselves to.

See also: Miley Cyrus, the Jonas Brothers etc.
 

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The Birthday Massacre and TOOL.

I hate how those bands get so much hate >.> TBM because people think they're about suicide and TOOL because they talk about atheism.
 

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Novskij said:
FallenJellyDoughnut said:
Probably Green Day because everyone hates them just because little 10 year olds like them.
I think their song writing is poor, i dont hate on them.

But i dont like them, and i dont want them played outloud.

Deguasser said:
Either Fall Out Boy, My Chemical Romance, or Panic! At The Disco.

I can understand people not liking the band members but they do make decent music.
Nope.

thedeathscythe said:
Cannibal Corpse. If you knew the band members, you'd know they're really good guys. If you read their lyrics, you'd understand that they're all just make believe, and not some sadistic fantasy or message for youth to kill people. Their music is brutal and intense, and maybe that's not your cup of tea, that's fine, but I know most people who dislike them have not even let a single song finish before hitting pause. I'm cool if you don't like their music but I think it's unfair to not like it because of their image and genre, dislike them for the music itself.
They represent the stereotype of Death Metal to be honest...
KefkaCultist said:
well being 1 of the handful of metal heads stuck in a town of country hicks I hear a lot of crap about bands I like.

1) Slipknot; stupidest argument I've heard is, "they suck because they need 9 members to sound good," So they sound good but they suck because their different?

2) Any metal/hard rock band with a girl singer; because apparently everyone thinks only guys can sing for heavy bands and girls have to be in kitchens making sammiches.

3) Metallica; I always hear, "they suck because they sold out and changed their sound," and I think that just makes you sound stupid. Sure, I don't think their music is as good nowadays either, but if they kept putting Enter Sandman and Sad But True clones every CD then they would just get boring.
They totally sold out on Black Album, although i think they did pretty bad on Master of Puppets aswell, not as bad though.

Slipknot makes conventional verse chorus music, and is constantly hailed as the greatest metal band of the 00s, and got metal awards all the time... . what the fuck?
There's absolutely nothing, and I mean fucking nothing, wrong with making verse chorus music. Because it sounds nice. Innovation is a good thing, but so is polish, and rare is a band that does both.

Not saying that Slipknot is good, and I'm not even saying they're metal. I'm just saying calling music "generic" is utterly pointless.
 

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Dropkick Murphys.
Dropkick Murphys get hate? WHERE?

OT: I don't like people hating on Enter Shikari for their change in musical style. They are still great to listen to. Sure they've gotten really political and dance-driven, but they remain as fun as ever.
Also, Between the Buried and Me. They seem to get hate from a lot of prog metal fans that call them talentless. This is kind of stemming from me having prog elitists shoot them down right to my face, because they are blinded by Dream Theater, and anything not as good to them is shit...
 

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Novskij said:
Ironic Pirate said:
Novskij said:
FallenJellyDoughnut said:
Probably Green Day because everyone hates them just because little 10 year olds like them.
I think their song writing is poor, i dont hate on them.

But i dont like them, and i dont want them played outloud.

Deguasser said:
Either Fall Out Boy, My Chemical Romance, or Panic! At The Disco.

I can understand people not liking the band members but they do make decent music.
Nope.

thedeathscythe said:
Cannibal Corpse. If you knew the band members, you'd know they're really good guys. If you read their lyrics, you'd understand that they're all just make believe, and not some sadistic fantasy or message for youth to kill people. Their music is brutal and intense, and maybe that's not your cup of tea, that's fine, but I know most people who dislike them have not even let a single song finish before hitting pause. I'm cool if you don't like their music but I think it's unfair to not like it because of their image and genre, dislike them for the music itself.
They represent the stereotype of Death Metal to be honest...
KefkaCultist said:
well being 1 of the handful of metal heads stuck in a town of country hicks I hear a lot of crap about bands I like.

1) Slipknot; stupidest argument I've heard is, "they suck because they need 9 members to sound good," So they sound good but they suck because their different?

2) Any metal/hard rock band with a girl singer; because apparently everyone thinks only guys can sing for heavy bands and girls have to be in kitchens making sammiches.

3) Metallica; I always hear, "they suck because they sold out and changed their sound," and I think that just makes you sound stupid. Sure, I don't think their music is as good nowadays either, but if they kept putting Enter Sandman and Sad But True clones every CD then they would just get boring.
They totally sold out on Black Album, although i think they did pretty bad on Master of Puppets aswell, not as bad though.

Slipknot makes conventional verse chorus music, and is constantly hailed as the greatest metal band of the 00s, and got metal awards all the time... . what the fuck?
There's absolutely nothing, and I mean fucking nothing, wrong with making verse chorus music. Because it sounds nice. Innovation is a good thing, but so is polish, and rare is a band that does both.

Not saying that Slipknot is good, and I'm not even saying they're metal. I'm just saying calling music "generic" is utterly pointless.
What polish is there to slipknots music, oh ok Verse-Chorus with detuned guitars oh wow? Oh and many bands have tried diffrent structures, and they sound polished enough to me.

The problem with most verse-chorus songwriting, is that its pretty much easy to know whats gonna happen next, its kinda boring and repetative, listening to same song over and over, since its all written verse-chorus.
I've never listened to Slipknot, that's not what I'm arguing. What I'm saying is that not every band needs to innovate, for one thing because you don't need to listen to it. For another, song structure should only be messed with if you have a good idea on how to change it.

It's one of the most basic aspects of music, and sometimes it needs a little shaking up. Most times, it's best to leave it alone.
 

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Linkin Park as a fan the amount of shit I get personally and the amount of people who insult them for no reason is baffling.
 

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It doesnt have to be super innovative... But when its so predictable, im technically listening to the same song over and over. Im asking for some variation.

Its not best to leave it alone, id prefer bands mess around with it.

Many Death Metal bands avoid writing conventional verse-chorus songs. I could name so many good Death Metal bands that do something. Then there is a whole fucking genre dedicated to avoid conventional structure, Progressive Metal and Progressive Rock,, then there is Post Rock, also quite anti conventional then there is Jazz music, particularly Free Jazz, particularly Free Jazz, improvisation based, quite a few Black Metal bands avoid conventionality within their structure too, oh and i forgot mention Classical Music.

It seems like there are many capable musicians, and genres dedicated to breaking conventional song-writing, or atleast innovating a little bit, there are musicians from every genre who innovate.

But the biggest problem with slipknot, is they innovated NOTHING, and get praise for it!?!?!
You don't have to innovate to make music that people enjoy listening to.
 

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BonsaiK said:
Contun said:
Metallica and Megadeth. They don't get nearly as much hate as most of the bands mentioned and they're both very popular and successful, but a ton of their fans hate each other just for preferring one above the other. I think it's because of the fighting done between Mustaine and the members of Metallica, but I'm pretty sure they've put that behind them now.

They're both really great bands, don't see why their fans continue to fight...
Is there really that much hostility? I know a few people who dislike Megadeth simply because they don't like Mustaine's somewhat glam-influenced vocal style, but I never met a Megadeth fan who didn't at least appreciate some period of Metallica, and most Metallica fans who like the old stuff like the songs that Mustaine wrote on "Kill 'Em All"...
Well there's a lot of truth in what you're saying, most of my friends who like Metallica don't hate Mustaine or Megadeth. Most of the hostility I've seen has been on YouTube and the internet; where the general mindset is if somebody disagrees with your opinion, they must be a moron.

Wouldn't surprise me in the least if people actually viewed this way however.
 

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Novskij said:
Urialanis said:
Linkin Park as a fan the amount of shit I get personally and the amount of people who insult them for no reason is baffling.
Their a very bland band. :D
The only reason I mentioned it is because I seem to get a lot of hate for still being a fan after their new album came out. It's like I'm not allowed to like a band after they deviated from their original style.
 

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JeanLuc761 said:
This should be interesting.

My choice is going to have to be...Nickelback. They're the definition of generic rock, I'll grant you, but I still think the hate against them is borderline absurd. Plus, god save me, I do love "Into the Night" and "If Today Was Your Last Day"
This one...

"Someday" wasn't a bad song, to be fair!
 

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THEAFRONINJA said:
What leads you to believe I am an angry person? And I guess we see things differently. Do you enjoy unbelievably boring and generic music? And to me, that would provide a counterargument about Eminem, but like I said, I used to enjoy him so it is pointless to argue over this.