Bashing the P0rnz

[Gentile]

I don't think there's been enough of these up for debate these days - So that's reason enough to start one. I will be bashing the thing that takes up 12% of the internet. I'll try to be as factual as possible as to avoid epic backlash for ignoring the facts (Because facts make people happy durrhurr) so please - Feel free to comment on anything. :]

Give or take one or two people in the free world, It's quite safe to say that everybody has viewed pornographic material on the internet to some degree.

/Proof http://www.spike.com/video/truth-about-internet/3052562

Despite being so popular (in the free world at least). It has perhaps unintentionally become the main outlet by which children get introduced to sexuality these days. Which seems to give public schools greater incentive to lower the grade in which sexual education begins. You could probably argue that exposing sexuality to children at such a young age has it's pros and cons but imo - It just adds more fuel to a nasty trend recently where kids' minds become eroticized before they can learn to truly find an appreciation for the ethics behind sexual relations. My take on your normal teenager in high school is that they are essentially hedonists, although most try to hide that fact. If you have any historical perspective on this sort of thing, its actually a recent development in the free world.~

I could go on to talk about the effect of the industry on the actors and actresses involved, but i'm sure we can all agree that we would definitely not wish for anybody we care about to be involved in this business for their own good. What with all the chances of diseases, unwanted pregnancy, physical and emotional turmoil, and such. Right? :] Yes that's why i'll let the focus of this discussion be on you, dear porn viewer. But if you wish to include this factor in your response. Then go right ahead.

 

[Sacman]

I gotta say that beat in the video was pretty awesome...<.<

 

[NeutralDrow]

I could go on to talk about the effect of the industry on the actors and actresses involved, but i'm sure we can all agree that we would definitely not wish for anybody we care about to be involved in this business for their own good. What with all the chances of diseases, unwanted pregnancy, physical and emotional turmoil, and such. Right? :]

Aren't you mixing up "porn" with "prostitution?"

 

[Gentile]

Violent crime is down. People are waiting longer to get pregnant. Condoms are more available than ever.

Sex is the most natural thing in the world. Wanting to fuck as much as you can as often as you can is in our DNA.

There is no problem here.

I guess the emotional/intimate aspect of sex is easily thrown around these days.

Discuss.

 

[Canid117]

I thought that Porn took up 20% of the internet.

 

[Gentile]

I could go on to talk about the effect of the industry on the actors and actresses involved, but i'm sure we can all agree that we would definitely not wish for anybody we care about to be involved in this business for their own good. What with all the chances of diseases, unwanted pregnancy, physical and emotional turmoil, and such. Right? :]

Aren't you mixing up "porn" with "prostitution?"

Getting paid to have sex. Usually unprotected.

 

[SL33TBL1ND]

I don't think there's been enough of these up for debate these days - So that's reason enough to start one. I will be bashing the thing that takes up 12% of the internet. I'll try to be as factual as possible as to avoid epic backlash for ignoring the facts (Because facts make people happy durrhurr) so please - Feel free to comment on anything. :]

Give or take one or two people in the free world, It's quite safe to say that everybody has viewed pornographic material on the internet to some degree.

/Proof http://www.spike.com/video/truth-about-internet/3052562

Despite being so popular (in the free world at least). It has perhaps unintentionally become the main outlet by which children get introduced to sexuality these days. Which seems to give public schools greater incentive to lower the grade in which sexual education begins. You could probably argue that exposing sexuality to children at such a young age has it's pros and cons but imo - It just adds more fuel to a nasty trend recently where kids' minds become eroticized before they can learn to truly find an appreciation for the ethics behind sexual relations. My take on your normal teenager in high school is that they are essentially hedonists, although most try to hide that fact. If you have any historical perspective on this sort of thing, its actually a recent development in the free world.~

I could go on to talk about the effect of the industry on the actors and actresses involved, but i'm sure we can all agree that we would definitely not wish for anybody we care about to be involved in this business for their own good. What with all the chances of diseases, unwanted pregnancy, physical and emotional turmoil, and such. Right? :] Yes that's why i'll let the focus of this discussion be on you, dear porn viewer. But if you wish to include this factor in your response. Then go right ahead.

Porn only makes up 12% of the internet?

I was under the impression that it only took up 1%. At least that's what they said on QI. They also mentioned the most of the internet was taken up by spam.

 

[Gentile]

Violent crime is down. People are waiting longer to get pregnant. Condoms are more available than ever.

Sex is the most natural thing in the world. Wanting to fuck as much as you can as often as you can is in our DNA.

There is no problem here.

I guess the emotional/intimate aspect of sex is easily thrown around these days.

Discuss.

I'm currently in a long-term relationship with the love of my life, whom I've known for twelve years. I know all about the emotional side of sex.

Porn =/= real sex =/= love.

A non issue for you, an issue perhaps for others. Move on, and have a good day~

 

[OrokuSaki]

.................are you debating that people watch porn, that we should expose our children to sex ed earlier, or that porn is good/evil? I got confused reading and didn't click the link.

But yeah, sex is natural, the consequences are the results of the act itself, and "I'm fairly sure if they took porn off the internet there'd only be one website left and it'd be called Bring Back the Porn" - Dr Perry Cox, Scrubs.

 

[Ham_authority95]

/Proof http://www.spike.com/video/truth-about-internet/3052562

I kind of quit taking you seriously after you posted a from Spike TV link...(Which is a hugely sexualized site IMO)

OT: I wouldn't actually say that children are exposed to sex for the first time through Pornography. Every single person that I know well was first exposed to sex with these rumors about "condoms" and "boners"....notice how I said "condoms"?

Your claims of all teenagers now being "hedonistic" are kind of over-blown. Sure, a lot of us want sex at this age, but that doesn't actually mean that we all just go out and fuck whenever we feel like. It's more common for people to just whack it off(which is what the afromentioned porn is for), and not have to deal with the potential STDs and pregnancy. I know this because I AM a teenager in a pretty "sexualized" highschool.

As for the exploitation of pornstars, 95 times out of a hundred they have willingly walked into the industry, so they're obviously prepared to get an STD, get railed in the ass, and fake moaning for hours on end. Only pornstars really have sex with pornstars, so it isn't like they're spreading a lot of it. They also have birth control that they require the stars to take, and government enforced AIDS tests that they need to take once every month.

All that being said, I'd rather have a generation of kids fapping off to consenting adults having sex in front of camera instead of becoming negatively promiscuous and doing sexual acts on camera themselves.

 

[CarpathianMuffin]

Violent crime is down. People are waiting longer to get pregnant. Condoms are more available than ever.

Sex is the most natural thing in the world. Wanting to fuck as much as you can as often as you can is in our DNA.

There is no problem here.

Err... I actually pretty much agree with this.
I know a lot of people who have excellent self control when it comes to sex as well.

 

[NeutralDrow]

I could go on to talk about the effect of the industry on the actors and actresses involved, but i'm sure we can all agree that we would definitely not wish for anybody we care about to be involved in this business for their own good. What with all the chances of diseases, unwanted pregnancy, physical and emotional turmoil, and such. Right? :]

Aren't you mixing up "porn" with "prostitution?"

Getting paid to have sex. Usually unprotected.

...in other words, the answer is yes.

Yeah, porn and prostitution are two different things. The only commonalities are that sex is involved and they're considered paying work. Working conditions and standards are entirely different.

 

[Blanko2]

i disagree that the reason for that is porn. the whole highschoolers are hedonists bit.
i think that its more just the general trend in western culture that has caused this.

the porn, maybe it would benefit them to have to work for it, i guess, but for that you need parents who actually know how to use the internet, who can figure out what their kids are doing and such.
i mean, im still of the age that when i was starting to look at that crap, internet was dialup, ycouldnt just go on and download a shitton of pics cuz then your bill at the end of the month was huge and your mom was like, wtf. and even thats not like when you had to try and find your dads porn stash or get your older friends to buy you some at the corner store, haha!
but i digress.

 

[Nouw]

Violent crime is down. People are waiting longer to get pregnant. Condoms are more available than ever.

Sex is the most natural thing in the world. Wanting to fuck as much as you can as often as you can is in our DNA.

There is no problem here.

I beg to differ, violence is the most natural thing in the world. But to be fair, I guess Violence is just as important as Sex.

Also where is the proof that violent crime is down? Sorry if I sound a bit demanding, I'm just tired of people voicing their opinion and slapping it on the wall of 'facts.'

I'm not sure to be honest, it's quite a touchy subject I have no intention of going into depth but just giving my 2cents on the replies.

 

[RaphaelsRedemption]

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A non issue for you, an issue perhaps for others. Move on, and have a good day~[/quote]\

Can I please comment on your tone? You sound very hostile. Why would you assume all viewers of this site also view porn? And why would you also seem to assume that they are going to leap to the defense of porn?

You seem to be saying that porn is bad. But you really haven't given many reasons except that children can access it on the internet and thusly lose their innocence, and that you wouldn't want any relative of yours to be an actor in such videos.

The first reason can be countered with the fact porn sites always ask you if you're over 18 when trying to view their videos. If a child answers "yes", isn't that their fault - or, more accurately, the fault of their parents who are not supervising their browsing or giving them guidelines to follow whilst on the net? I'm much more in favour of education over prohibition.

And if you wouldn't want to see a relative of yours in porn, why wouldn't you support them to get out of such a business, instead of condemning? There's multiple reasons why someone would do such work. In the end, if it's of their own free will, they must be left to do it. If it's from neccessity, condemnation will never work. Why not find (or found) some organisation that works with such people and support them?

I personally don't watch porn, nor enjoy it. But I cannot sympathise with you, maybe because I don't identify with your concerns.