Battlefield 3 Is "Grounded In Authenticity"
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What I meant was that the 'Three Kings' romp that was BC1 was a breath of fresh air from all the other serious military shooters. And especially today's shooter market could do with a bit of humor. So I would've liked it better if they went in that direction. Because seriously, all this promise of 'being grounded in realism' and 'asking difficult questions about patriotism' stinks of the promises Homefront made. And we all know where that went.Vrach said:
(No complaints on the his stance on pacing and atmosphere, though.)
As for previous Battlefield games, last time I fired up BF2, Special Forces, Armored Fury and Euro Force, they didn't even have a SP.
I think what he's getting at, is that people thought "the dark knight" was engaging and engrossing, and kind of drew you in. Batman from back in the day was more of a *fun to watch* thing. It was entertaining, but never really gave you a grand sense of immersion or feeling. I believe he thinks both are good, but that they're going for the style and tone of the latter, because it's a more intense version and that's what they want us to feel.CriticKitten said:
I haven't pre-ordered yet but I plan on it.
If that's what he meant, then that's what he should have said instead of "The Dark Knight is awesome and the 60's Batman is not". If he had said what you think he meant, then no one would be complaining right now. What he actually said though was just plain ridiculous.Frizzle said:
Maybe Goldfarb is a traditionally a troll name?
Oh so I guess the 80's and 90's era of gaming was totally shit then too? So I guess Doom, Mario, Assasin's Creed, Star Wars etc. all suck because they're not realistic. While I may laugh at Assasin's Creed's idea of being "realistic" and criticize the story for this it doesn't make it a bad franchise and if anything it's one of my favorites. It's a good thing most assasination games aren't realistic too, because then if you want a convincing single character you're probably just going to play the entire game stalking someone, watching what their routine is and learn about any medical conditions they have. Then bam you catch them in a dark corner or in their home, make them OD on heroine or whatever then leave, everyone will think it's just a standard drug addiction and not suspect assassination, plus it hits the targets credibility to weaken their fan base. But this would be completely boring and jumping off a roof and stabbing someone with a blade that comes out your wrist is frickin' awesome.
But really I don't know how BF3 is going to be able compete with that really old game that's so much more realistic you know real life? I know the graphics will be better but it won't have as good of a story or as realistic gameplay so I'm going to go join the army instead.
But really I don't know how BF3 is going to be able compete with that really old game that's so much more realistic you know real life? I know the graphics will be better but it won't have as good of a story or as realistic gameplay so I'm going to go join the army instead.
I'll grant you that it is my interpretation of what he said. I just broke down the sentence as Dark Knight being "awesome" and 60's batman not being "awesome". He didn't say it was bad, it just wasn't awesome. Johny Quest (not sure of your age) was not "awesome", but I and many others enjoyed watching it on TV.intheweeds said:
All that being said, I think there is a little too much overreacting going on here. especially since the majority of this site's visitors (myself included) were not around in the 60's.
Yes, sneaking up behind an enemy soldier, knife in hand, ramming it into their chest as they turn around and look at you dramatically, before staring vacantly into the sky while you navigate their thoracic cavity before withdrawling the blade, the victim's dogtags being pulled away at the same time...is very authentic.
Every day that goes by, ARMA 3 just looks better and better. Keep it up Infinity Ward 2.0, keep it up EA Dice. I'm looking forward to enjoying a real authentic military simulation game, and the more you two make movie-based action fests, the more I'm going to enjoy it when it comes out. Already enjoying the hell out of ARMA II and ACE, so whatever.
Every day that goes by, ARMA 3 just looks better and better. Keep it up Infinity Ward 2.0, keep it up EA Dice. I'm looking forward to enjoying a real authentic military simulation game, and the more you two make movie-based action fests, the more I'm going to enjoy it when it comes out. Already enjoying the hell out of ARMA II and ACE, so whatever.
In his defense, I think he was using a more classical definition of awesome, not the modern one that applies to anything and everything. As in, he might still think Batman and Hogan's Heroes are extremely funny, but not "full of awe."You Can said:
OT: Looks decent enough. I'll probably get it used. Saw some plants. That was cool in the sense that actually having contrast in a game is cool.
ITT: The Dark Knight isn't more awesome than campy 60's shows. Keep up the strawmen, guys.
I don't mind it if they take this direction. I do mind if they fuck it up. If they're going realism, I don't want to play an average (read: super) soldier that racks up ~200 kills in a single mission with an assault rifle.
I want character development, I want a seasoned story, and most of all I want a reason to be fighting the war. No more of this "LETS SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE PIT T-90S AGAINST ABRAMS, THATS LIEK AWESOME RITE".
I don't mind it if they take this direction. I do mind if they fuck it up. If they're going realism, I don't want to play an average (read: super) soldier that racks up ~200 kills in a single mission with an assault rifle.
I want character development, I want a seasoned story, and most of all I want a reason to be fighting the war. No more of this "LETS SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE PIT T-90S AGAINST ABRAMS, THATS LIEK AWESOME RITE".
Fair enough. I wasn't attacking your stance per se. He may very well have meant what you suggest. I just think he had a VERY unfortunate choice of words there if he doesn't want the gaming community to flame him as a troll.Frizzle said:
I'm a little concerned with what direction they're going to go in with this. Battlefield kinda pulled itself up onto the big boys table with Call of Duty overnight and now it's the major contender, so obviously EA's going to be pushing DICE away from anything even remotely risky in order to have as many sure sales behind it as possible. I mean, there's no reason this COULDN'T work. I'm not much an FPS gamer myself--I see them more as popcorn games than anything else--but I do remember fondly enjoying Bad Company 2. More than the same Call of Duty at the time, at least. Seeing it go in the same direction as Call of Duty's blatant action-move overdramatic slow-motion explosion-scene filled territory would be disappointing, but it's always possible to move away from that just enough to keep the game fresh and interesting.
You never know, I guess. I hope they don't fuck it up, simply because I enjoyed BC2's originality and the stark contrast it made to COD at the time, but sales generally win out when pitted against creative ambition.
You never know, I guess. I hope they don't fuck it up, simply because I enjoyed BC2's originality and the stark contrast it made to COD at the time, but sales generally win out when pitted against creative ambition.
No, snapping your bayonet whole cutting a HVTs head off and then having to fill in a fuckload of requisition forms for the QM to get a replacement bayonet, only to have your request for a replacement turned down because the equipment was broken under 'unaccepted usage' so you have to pay for the replacement is authentic.UnderCoverGuest said:
Ah, so BF3 will be set in Iraq will it?RhombusHatesYou said:
OT: Its another war shooter, with a high end graphics engine, no matter how much Goldfarb(damn that is a weird name) tries to convince people otherwise.