Battlefield 3 Will Require Origin
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I think the problem here is the messenger not the message. If we can agree that Origin and Steam are [at least suppose to be] similar services, then Steam comes off as benevolent Santa Claus handing out cheap games to the masses (based on reputation and current majority). All well and good, but if Al Capone (EA) did the same thing you would be hesitant and suspicious. Even if they do the same service you're reputation will affect how you are perceived and only time and changes in beahvior can reverse that.
ahhh. Remember fellow PC gamers, when we didn't need to log in to accounts, or validate passwords or remember security codes to play online? All we did was enter username, and the server did the rest....
Then again, I remember being forced to download Gamespy because the programmers wouldn't give the game a server list..... So it's not really any better than it was 10 years ago.
Then again, I remember being forced to download Gamespy because the programmers wouldn't give the game a server list..... So it's not really any better than it was 10 years ago.
Well...I don't think I'll be buying the PC version now. I really want to....I have a nice gaming rig, but don't really care to install origin. Regardless of how much space or how easy it is to use.
Again I'm offering my opinion/choice here, so keep your condescending opinions to yourself, that'd be just so swell!
I'll probably just pick it up on the xbox and dream of the huge 64 player battles.
Unless someone finds a way to play it without requiring origin, even then, ea would probably crack down on it asap.
sad day, eh?
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couldn't be any more right there little buddy.
Edit: I had originally planned on picking up a physical copy of BF3, but this just killed it.
Again I'm offering my opinion/choice here, so keep your condescending opinions to yourself, that'd be just so swell!
I'll probably just pick it up on the xbox and dream of the huge 64 player battles.
Unless someone finds a way to play it without requiring origin, even then, ea would probably crack down on it asap.
sad day, eh?
captcha: rommeet system
couldn't be any more right there little buddy.
Edit: I had originally planned on picking up a physical copy of BF3, but this just killed it.
I wonder if EA is going to take the "Blizzard" approach and just require that the game be online 100% of the time a few weeks later?
No, really. I wouldn't put it past them to not reveal that critical bit of info until Day 1 in their EULA.
No, really. I wouldn't put it past them to not reveal that critical bit of info until Day 1 in their EULA.
Doesn't really bother me. I'm terrible at FPS games in general, so playing it on the PS3 is probably the best option in any case. But then again I'll be getting sick (correction: even sicker) with Skyrim fever by the time this is coming out anyways. And by the time I'm finished with Skyrim it'll be Treyarch's turn again. =/
I love how you can't verify the integrity of games downloaded with EADM2.0 (Read Origin... as if they were the first ones...:}).
So say, you have a corrupted file of 2mb in your download, you can't just simpled download THAT single file (like Steam can). No. You have to redownload the whole 9 gigs of game.
That's what i am calling usefull software.
So say, you have a corrupted file of 2mb in your download, you can't just simpled download THAT single file (like Steam can). No. You have to redownload the whole 9 gigs of game.
That's what i am calling usefull software.
Argh not more steam-like software. I've already got steam and impulse.
When will people realise that managing your games through a website and having no extra software on your computer (like GoG, D2D or gamersgate systems) is a much better way of doing things.
When will people realise that managing your games through a website and having no extra software on your computer (like GoG, D2D or gamersgate systems) is a much better way of doing things.
Creating a poor customer experience. If you buy a game through Steam and have problems with it, and you contact Valve for support, they just quote the part of the EULA that says you don't own the games and they're not responsible for any problems, so they won't fix the problem or refund it. If you then try contacting the dev/publisher directly and they've got a patch that solves the problem, you can't apply it on the Steam version because only the Steam specific patch will work. So Valve passes the buck to the developer but makes it impossible for them to actually fix it. Since all your games are tied to an account, if you have a significant library they just have you by the balls, because you can't dispute the charges with your credit card company - if you do that, they'll just ban you entirely. It's a complete lose-lose situation.Mantonio said:
If it's a Valve game I don't have a problem getting it on Steam, because if something's wrong, Valve has to deal with it either way, so in this case problems get solved. Anything else though I won't touch unless it's activating a game on Steam that I can get through another source (such as something through the Humble Indie Bundle). If there's a problem with it on Steam, I just install and play it in the non Steam way.
If Steam actually had good customer service, this wouldn't be happening, but just pay attention on forums and general discussion on blogs - more and more people are becoming less and less happy with Steam, and Valve is barely even making any good games now, so people aren't even forgiving them because they make games they want.
Origin on the flip side is a service for EA games, and EA publishes a lot of games. For the same reason I don't have a problem getting a Valve game from Steam, I have no problem getting an EA game from Origin - there's no passing the buck if something goes wrong. Also, Since Mirror's Edge, I don't really care for any of the games Valve has put out. Being unable to easily climb up stuff (Alyx Vance has to do it for you, since Gordon can't do it) or crawl under stuff just makes the games frustrating. Eventually people who are playing TF2 or L4D2 and nothing else will come out and take a look at some other games and realise that they're much, much better. Then Valve as a developer is no better than id - they used to make good games but now they're shitty and make engines that unlike with id, nobody wants to use.
Well Shamus Young predicted this.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/columns/experienced-points/7058-Experienced-Points-I-Have-Seen-The-Future-And-it-is-Annoying
What can I say. We have no one to blame for this but ourselves. We all went out and bought episode 2. We all went out and bought the games that required Steam. We didn't make good on all those threats to boycott Steam and instead signed up to take advantage of Steam sales. So it was only inevitable that a another big publisher was going to jump on the whole drm that's also an online store/social network whatever thing. Pretty soon Activision is going to have their own. Their already doing some wierd call of duty subscription map thing or whatever it is.
Times they are a changing. I remember a simpler time. When you didn't need internet connections or have to sign into stuff before you could install games you legally purchased. A time when more than 2 PC games came out every month. I remember... railroad times.
On the plus side. Now EA has no excuse whatsoever to not put out
PC versions of all the games they release every year.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/columns/experienced-points/7058-Experienced-Points-I-Have-Seen-The-Future-And-it-is-Annoying
What can I say. We have no one to blame for this but ourselves. We all went out and bought episode 2. We all went out and bought the games that required Steam. We didn't make good on all those threats to boycott Steam and instead signed up to take advantage of Steam sales. So it was only inevitable that a another big publisher was going to jump on the whole drm that's also an online store/social network whatever thing. Pretty soon Activision is going to have their own. Their already doing some wierd call of duty subscription map thing or whatever it is.
Times they are a changing. I remember a simpler time. When you didn't need internet connections or have to sign into stuff before you could install games you legally purchased. A time when more than 2 PC games came out every month. I remember... railroad times.
On the plus side. Now EA has no excuse whatsoever to not put out
PC versions of all the games they release every year.
You're right. It is hardly fair. The mature service wins out in every aspect, so why wouldn't I choose it?ph0b0s123 said: