Why bother with death threats.... EA doesn't care even if you did off the odd employee, and you wouldn't like what the FBI (or equivalent wherever you live) would do to you.Pohaturon said:
PUBLISHERS, games publishers, not developers. EA used to be a developer way back in the mists of time (I believe), but it gave up on doing any of the hard work and now just leaches off real, more creative devs.F said:
migo said:
Again, steam isn't perfect and non of the above either.(i.e. Gamersgate charges more for their indi-games, at least for the one I looked up/bought, gog doesn't even has any indi-games) Beside that, steam has not only special holiday sales, weekend sales and midweek sales, it also has daily offers.
Yeah, but that is the point, it's not really that I dislike origin, the issue is EA...I don't trust them, I don't like them, EA(not origin) if they want to change that fact they need to change their policy. And I'm sure I'm not the only one, who thinks that way.
No, the issue still stands, if you think your thought further.. soon every major developer will have their own download platform, and every game will be exclusive for their own platform (Steam isn't the only one that suffers from this, Dragon Age II for example isn't available on Gamersgate and impulse has it region-locked, which is another issue...).
But what about people that support origin but complain about steam? Everyone has their reasons, my is, I trust steam and especially Valve in this case, all my games I brought from them work 100%, not like a few EA games I own.
Uhh... I would suggest you work on your reading comprehension. My point was that people are having shit fits about this NOW when they accepted it without question the best part of a decade ago because, just like you, they hate a Logo not the change.Strazdas said:
More like face planting. It should have been obvious that nobody wants an entire application running to play like 5 games, by one developer.Bebus said:
you just made a Fairly Oddparents reference. I want to have your kids. OR the other way around. Even if it's not compatible.Alphakirby said:
This makes me care even less than when they said no Battlefield 3 on Steam. Now I officially give 0 fucks whatsoever about this game because I am not giving half of my hard drive to EA's service...I already have to deal with Steam in the background for Christ's sake.
He was doing it too wasn't an acceptable excuse in elementary school, and it isn't in business either.deckai said:
There's no such thing as importing with digital content delivery.
No, it's Steam's fault because the non-Steam version works fine, and the non-Steam version has updates that patch the system.
Only because Steam passes the buck and pretends it's not their responsibility despite the fact that they're the ones that require it to be different.
If the car dealer has modified the engine so it only works with a certain type of gas, you ask the car-dealer.
They daily offers aren't anywhere near as good as GG.
If you distrust EA but think Valve is OK, your head isn't screwed on right.
If it gets too fragmented and it ends up being a real problem that way, then they'll have to look at playing nice with each other, and they'll have to start looking at having a competitive edge for their platforms, which will be consumer friendliness.
Ideally yeah, but we'll never hit that point until Steam gets some serious competition.
Valve games work fine on Steam, non-Valve games don't. EA games work fine on Origin. No difference there, and EA is at least doing the responsible thing - after having too many problems with Steam and having to fix Valve's mess, they're protecting their customers from having to deal with it any further.
But it's ok to point out a flaws, that everyone has? Yeah, great argument..migo said:
Yes there is, not in a literal sense, but you can't blame steam for it, blame the big big publisher for it, there were a few publisher that denied their games outside the USA if the prices were connected to the us-dollar-Exchange rate. But yeah, it's easier do blame steam right?
That is a 100% matter of taste and right now you are just grasping at straws.
Thanks for giving me a reason to put you on my ignore list, but for the sake of arguing, I will at least finish this post.
One easy solution would be, splitting Valve and Steam, making steam an independent company.
I have right now 49 games on steam, 7 of them, developed by valve, 2 by EA. And every single one is working perfectly fine, and do you really think Steam would be so successful if their games wouldn't work? But hey if you want to believe the lies that EA is giving, good for you, it's your decision.
A lot of people here and elswhere are under the deeply flawed impression that Steam is perfect and that only Origin has problems. I'm setting them straight.deckai said:
Since they do it for games like Left 4 Dead and Team Fortress 2, which are Valve games, it's Steam's fault. If they were only doing it for certain publishers, and others got the right exchange rate, your argument would be acceptable it. It isn't.
Steam requires the changes. Same thing in the end. It's like cell phone carriers requiring firmware changes to models they carry - they're then responsible for supporting them, not the manufacturer. The majority isn't able to modify their own games to be fully functional, because they end up not being updated. It's Steam's fault for requiring the changes, and making it difficult to deliver updates (likely because they want to force devs to use Steamworks so that users are locked in with Steam).
Find games every day at $2.50, down from $10, isn't a matter of taste, it's objective fact. You rarely see Steam sales going that low.
The sake of arguing is the only reason you're even doing this, there's no good reason to be defending Steam.
Would be pointless, Valve hardly makes games anymore, they let the modder community make them and then buys them up.
It's not lies, it's based on first hand experience relayed to me by disgruntled Steam users and how EA's reasoning is 100% consistent with it. Steam is successful because you can't ask for a refund, because they won't give one, and you can't dispute the charges with a credit card company, because then Valve will ban you for all your games, so you're stuck with them and just have to grin and bare it. They've got a monopoly on mindhsare and they've got a lock in with very unfriendly practices. That's why they're successful, because, like Activision, they're total dicks.
