Battlefield 4 Goes Hollywood in its Official Gameplay Debut

Soviet Heavy

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Can we please move on from Americans and Russians? It's like Cold War paranoia is starting up again, like the gaming industry hasn't realized that the Cold War ended over twenty years ago.
 

Saregon

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For the first time in a Battlefield game, your player has the ability to command squadmates to direct covering fire at specific targets and take out enemies as you point them out.
Wait a second... Spec Ops: The Line, is that you in there?

Anyway, this looks fantastic, as is to be expected I suppose, but it seems that the scripting from BF3 hasn't changed at all, or even gotten worse, if possible. And why on earth would you release a gameplay trailer for a mostly multiplayer game WITHOUT footage from the multiplayer? This does seem fairly polished, so claiming it's not done yet is not good enough. Especially if they, as I suspect they will, start taking preorders in short order now.

I might get this for the multiplayer, but I'm very on the fence still. It's been too little time since BF3, and I'm not interested in getting it if this is gonna turn out like a CoD-type one release every year. Even if Battlefield's multiplayer is a lot more fun (in the large maps with vehicles, the smaller ones have gotten identical to CoD).

Also as a sidenote, this is really not doing anything to convince me that EA isn't just following everyone else's business model that seems to work.
 

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sammysoso said:
Saulkar said:
sammysoso said:
Because they aren't there to protect the civilians, special forces don't deal with that stuff. They're just getting in the way in a very high pressure environment.
Huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh... Semantics, they are protecting civilians indirectly by doing their job (assuming there are not ulterior motives behind the decisions of their superiors). Besides... how should I word this... not specifically being there to protect civilians in the region does not sound like a very relevant counterpoint towards my gripe. However on the point of a high pressure environment I was pointing out that the soldier's reaction is consistent in many depictions of soldiers across all forms of media, not just this game in particular.
Oh yea, I was just addressing the specific instance in this game.

As far as overall, I'd think that unless your mission was to specifically protect civilians, you wouldn't want them in the combat zone. Having to account for their presence as well as do your job would be pretty stressful.
Then you just factor their presence in as another variable and do your best to avoid unnecessary casualties. No reason to get all jock-ish and insult them simply for being there. Why not say "Sir, I appreciate your desire to help but this area is not safe. Please leave, immediately. Thank you for your co-operation." Or words to that effect.
 

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Soviet Heavy said:
Can we please move on from Americans and Russians? It's like Cold War paranoia is starting up again, like the gaming industry hasn't realized that the Cold War ended over twenty years ago.
I agree, let's pull out another ridiculous scenario that, while still fueled with irrational paranoia, would at least be refreshing.
here goes:

China attacks europe. BAM!
new opposing factions, more varied environments, you can basicly pick any kind of location you want and you'll probably find it somewhere within europe or china, it's brilliant.
 

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Looks like an exciting, good looking Quick-Time-Event shooter to me. I hope these people know what they're doing, pumping resources in to a single player experience of a game that is considered to be a multiplayer experience entirely, which in turn is also completely different from that of the COD series. It has been reported that most COD players can't handle the necessary effort required to play Battlefield, or as some call it, the lack of instant gratification.

The multiplayer had better evolved a whole lot more than this single-player stuff appears to have.

The Russian adversaries are another easy bad-guy. A nation with the resources to have disposable special ops/warfighters(huhawhaw)/stooges just like the USA in what is probably going to turn out to be a laughable attempt at creating emotional involvement with your team mates.

Here's a question for the film buffs amongst us.

Have you ever felt a emotional connection to a character who is mute, only interacts with other characters during combat and gets to make no crucial decisions beyond shooting someone ?

Do you want know what I call a player-controlled character to whom this laughable attempt at creating an 'emotional' connection is to be made to ?

Retarded Rambo.

The game may just very well be pure "to be, or what" spectacle(that's a Robin Williams quote btw). The technology to create interesting characters for an interesting game .....

Screw this. I'll wait for the multiplayer information, if there is something worthwhile that's not pushed ahead in to the community-fragmenting season pass bullshit.
 

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Well it certainly looks nice and shiny but the video is also really boring to watch (this is coming from someone who generally liked BF3 overall) it looks very heavily scripted, bland same old same old America Vs. Brown people of undisclosed country/Russians.

People give Call of duty shit for yearly releases but at least its visuals and story changes in a major way specifically the treyarch Cods (I still don't play them but the point still stands).
 

Adam Jensen_v1legacy

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Pretty graphics, but a boring game. I won't trouble myself with this one. And yes, I know it's about the multiplayer, but I can't stand modern military shooters. Until one of them does something new and exciting I'm out.
 

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This is shit and I don't know what else to say. Oh, wait. I got something. The player is opening doors now. This is revolutionary technology.
 

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Desert Punk said:
Well come on, the big factions in Europe, the brits would be crying and scared of their own guns, the french would surrender to the first asian looking folk they came across, and the germans would start trying to take over the world again! It would be a disaster! :p
oh you and your WW2, us europeans are actually quite fond of a good fight every once in a while if you study history.
especially with eachother, though, I don't know if that'll help. >.>

The french have always been one of the big major powerhouses in any war bar the last world war, I think that getting overrun by the FRACKING GERMANS should not harm that reputation.
They are german, they've been reknown as proper warriors ever since the roman era.

the english, yeah, they're usually pretty good at fighting BACK, as are us dutchmen, the only reason we ever owned large tracks of land outside our borders is because of clever business strategy.
 

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Soviet Heavy said:
Does anyone remember when Battlefield was a fun variation on the World War 2 shooter genre? I kinda miss those days, riding on bomber wings and engaging in huge tank battles.

We've got enough modern shooters that I can't believe I'm getting nostalgic for World War 2 again. But fancier visuals showing the same thing we've seen a hundred times in the last five years, plus three times the setpieces and spectacle moments does little to encourage or excite me anymore.
Whilst I don't remember that I do remember this wondorous game called Bad Company 2 that was like a light hearted parody of the genre that mostly revolved around a core gameplay mechanics of "blow shit up"...
I would enjoy a WW2 shooter in Bad Company 2's engine immeasurably.

I'd say I hope this goes back to that, but it's not very likely at all, instead we'll get them trying to pull of a COD campaign with gritty realism as a kind of selling point.

Just like warfighter.
 

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I honestly can't find the difference to BF3 in this, but I guess that is the sort of thing their player base expects.
 

JemothSkarii

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Desert Punk said:
Well come on, the big factions in Europe, the brits would be crying and scared of their own guns, the french would surrender to the first asian looking folk they came across, and the germans would start trying to take over the world again! It would be a disaster! :p
...You reminded me of Upotte! somewhat...I think it was the British being afraid of their guns; but in all fairness they did move to the L85A2 which is...a bit more reliable.

OT: Well, it looks pretty....I'd definitely buy it if it had dinosaurs or a dinosaur mode. I think most people would. But if I want a Michael Bay game I'd tape pistols to mice and set off firecrackers around them under piles of sawdust while blaring Linkin Park.
 

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As much as I want them to go back to WW2 or Vietnam, I think the problem (and this is a big one with the FPS genre) is how will they apply unlocks/monetize WW2?

I mean, there was decidedly less guns, little to no real gun modifications (red dot sights, under barrel launchers etc) and little in the way of gadgets.

While I personally would prefer a game without all that rubbish, the publishers are going to keep milking the unlock cash cow.

My god that would be glorious though. WW2 on that engine, minus the horrid lens flare and colour shading...

One can dream.
 

karloss01

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and here I was hoping it was going to be a 2142 sequel (with the "futuristic chinese skyline" they teased a couple days ago) but no, more of the same.