Battlefield Fans Don't Like Freebies

[PoweD]

I think somebody didn't think this statement though
When DLC is priced, less people would get it, getting less hate for it
When its free DLC, everybody who has the game gets it, this more bitching.

 

[GeorgW]

I love that he felt he needed to clarify that they would not give people $100 to play the game.
Anyway, people are weird. But good on them to not cave in, to me it seems like a lost opportunity for profit.

 

[Whateveralot]

Who doesn't love free? Well, I guess free tapeworms would be an exception but is free dlc a bad thing?

Haha that's the funniest thing I read in a while. You get some free internet points for that.


Anyway, there's 2 things I learnt in the past year, that's:

1) Know your products' market. Misinterpreting the market and the market response is a bad thing and it will cause you to make mistakes in the future.

2) The market knows when you are wrong about the market. This guy misinterpreted the markets' response to the DLC packs they brought out. And oh yeah, he blatantly explains his views in an interview, making him look like someone that doesn't know what he's doing. Strangely enough, these conclusions are also spread internally, being building blocks towards their final strategy. Basing a company's strategy on misinterpretations of the market is...well...bad news in general.

Good luck with that, DICE.

 

[JeanLuc761]

I will never understand people's aversion to pre-ordering games. There is absolutely zero consequence to putting $5 on a game before it comes out and nabbing the free stuff that comes with the pre-order. If it turns out you don't want the game by the time it comes out, then simply cancel your pre-order and get a refund or put the money towards something else.

Complaining about free stuff just boggles the mind.

Now i've never pre-ordered games, so this is an honest question, not some smart-ass comment.
Does game-stores really give you your deposit back, if you change your mind?

CAuse in the case of BF3, i'm glad i didn't preorder, after hearing about the EA origin TOS (which is now changed to be less invasive, so i'll have to reconsider again) which basicly gave them the right to use a shitload of your computers rescources to probe for any data on your computer, and use it however they pleased.

At Gamestop, you can certainly get your money back. Even if you paid for the game in full, you can't be forced to buy something you refuse to pick up. Given how Gamestop and other companies are highly numbers-driven and how customers tend to get a lot of freebies by pre-ordering a title they're interested in, a pre-order is a win/win for everyone.

 

[Kathinka]

ahhh, so it comes to this. blatantly lying to justify selling us their "map packs" of repurposed old maps with a new game mode..."

 

[Cid Silverwing]

This just proves that dipshits who don't know what the fuck they want are invading the gaming culture.

You do NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT complain about ANYTHING that's given to you for free, when it's something you actually ASK for when buying the game.

Why did everyone hate on the free map packs but love the paid map packs? This is so ass-backwards that my head explodes. They should be bitching about the PAID packs, NOT the FREE packs.

For the love of fuck, why do we have to suffer this? [/rage]

 

[Rednog]

I will never understand people's aversion to pre-ordering games. There is absolutely zero consequence to putting $5 on a game before it comes out and nabbing the free stuff that comes with the pre-order. If it turns out you don't want the game by the time it comes out, then simply cancel your pre-order and get a refund or put the money towards something else.

Complaining about free stuff just boggles the mind.

I personally don't preorder because 9 times out of 10 the game drops drastically in price after the release, portal 2 was like $30 for the PC week 2 it came out.
Especially with the Fall lineup of games, Black Friday/Thanksgiving are around the bend and damn near every game will be on sale at one store or another.

 

[josemlopes]

But none of those maps were new, and dont forget that when they announced the FREE DLC Map Packs the first MW2 DLC was coming out at 15$, they used them to hit the competition but they lied, the maps were just the ones that were already out.

 

[ph0b0s123]

I though the problem with the free dlc which incorporated an important patch was that it kept getting delayed, promised then delayed, etc. I think there were some strikes going on so the QA guys took ages to rubber stamp the stuff.

I think most people were complaining that this patch, that made the game playable again, was taking forever to get released. But sure DICE want to spin that as this is why they are no longer going to offer free stuff any more.

 

[Danpascooch]

I will never understand people's aversion to pre-ordering games. There is absolutely zero consequence to putting $5 on a game before it comes out and nabbing the free stuff that comes with the pre-order. If it turns out you don't want the game by the time it comes out, then simply cancel your pre-order and get a refund or put the money towards something else.

Complaining about free stuff just boggles the mind.

......You can't get your money back on a preorder, that's the ENTIRE POINT of company's doing a preorder, that $5 commits you (however slightly) to buying that game at that store.

 

[Zack84]

I've never complained about free maps. This is ridiculous.

 

[Studs MacKenzie]

NO NO NO! We weren't complaining about free dlc you idiot. Many people loved the maps you gave for free. The problem was that ONLY 1 of the DLC packs actually had new maps. You had 1 piece of free dlc for Battlefield Bad Company 2, the 3 maps (2 maps from the original bad company, and one map blatantly ripped from campaign and just put borders on each side, but we still appreciated them). The rest were just you guys giving what wasn't even a patch(you didn't have to download the so called "VIP Map Packs") where all you did was add on your end the ability to play the disk maps in different modes that you held them back from on release. We weren't complaining about the dlc being free. We were complaining about it being shit.

This! This Bach guy is discussing the issue in the wrong context.

Though, honestly, it IS stupid for people to complain about anything that does nothing but benefit or enhance an experience for free. Look at Infinity Ward and Activision: for Modern Warfare 2, two maps from each map pack were mere remakes of ones in the first Modern Warfare - and they made gamers pay!

So when free crap comes around for you (no matter the insignificant contribution it may make) be grateful, you entitled pricks! You know... that, or pay for every little thing.

 

[Kathinka]

No, no, no, DICE You are fucking retarded and trying to spin this in a completely different direction.

They know DAMN WELL what the problem with the DLC for BC2 was. We were promised FREE DLC NEW MAPS, and what we got were recycled maps from different game modes. Why was that an issue? Because most people I saw on the PC were stuck in one game mode, so 99% of the time we were just shafted. And when we weren't, the recycled maps were so poorly optimized that they weren't fun.

AND THEN we get the expansion? FINALLY 4 new maps? But we have to pay for them? Yeah, I know I stopped playing around then, and a lot of my other PC brethren did, as well.

So those douchebags are now trying to spin it like we were just impatient (which yeah, maybe a bit, but jesus christ they took forever to recycle those maps), when in reality we just felt like we were lied to. Way to piss me off even more, DICE. Really thinking of dropping BF3 off my radar, just so I don't contribute to yer bullshit any longer.

don't forget that they also screwed us pc folk out of the onslaught mode for no particularely good reason. -.-

 

[KeyMaster45]

Speaking of freebies, I'm still waiting on that Portal 2 DLC Valve said we'd have by the end of September. *checks calendar* 16 days, Newell. Then you answer to the wombats.

 

[ShindoL Shill]

wait, so i might not get free stuff because of some bitchy wankers COMPLAINING about free stuff?

whah- buh- feh- sploh- mih-

 

[JeanLuc761]

I will never understand people's aversion to pre-ordering games. There is absolutely zero consequence to putting $5 on a game before it comes out and nabbing the free stuff that comes with the pre-order. If it turns out you don't want the game by the time it comes out, then simply cancel your pre-order and get a refund or put the money towards something else.

Complaining about free stuff just boggles the mind.

......You can't get your money back on a preorder, that's the ENTIRE POINT of company's doing a preorder, that $5 commits you (however slightly) to buying that game at that store.

Of course you can get your money back. The store doesn't like it because it hurts our sales and numbers for that day, but we have given out refunds.

As someone above said, it's really no different than you returning an unopened item that you have the receipt for. We can't force you to take something you clearly don't want.

 

[Sniper Team 4]

So, people get upset when they have to pay for DLC, and there are apparently people who get upset when they get it for free. And I'm certain we can't solve this problem by simply saying, "You know what? Fine. We're not giving you ANY DLC," because then people would be upset because they don't get anything. The logic there escapes me.

 

[Dogstile]

My issue of course, is that they've put up a menu.

This menu, every time I go online comes up.

It takes an extra second to tell it to fuck off, sure, but its saying "hey look, everyone else has these maps because they had the money to buy it new, look at how much fun they're having, look!" every time I play. Now I don't play it, it pisses me off.