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Gilhelmi

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FelixG said:
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Harbinger_ said:
With the near global acceptance for homosexuality these days this will be thrown out in court. As soon as he mentions that he doesn't like homosexuals the court will be instantly against him.
Global acceptance? Homosexuality is the number one reason children are disowned by their parents in America. Most states allow employers to fire employees based on their sexual orientation, and a year ago being outed as gay would have automatically gotten you discharged from the military. There is still a sizable portion of the US population that thinks homosexuality should be a felony. A bill that would help protect women against domestic violence is currently being held up in Congress because that bill would also help lesbians. Even if you are in no way a homophobe, people thinking you're gay can seriously damage your reputation.

This guy has every right to sue. Anybody who thinks this is no big deal is not aware of how bad gay people still have it in this country. Hopefully he was able to convince his friends and family it was just a Facebook prank.
And if the court rules in his favor then it can be construed that the court isn't in favor of homosexuality and the press/media have a field day. Like I said thrown out of court.
Quite frankly anyone who perceives a court as being anti homosexual because they take this case is a flat out idiot. There is a huge difference between being anti homosexual and being anti data tampering.
Though the news media in most of the world, could be called a flat-out idiot. So he does have a point.

The media (ALL media) lies so much, I can hardly stand too watch it anymore. I never know if they are lying, telling half-truth, or (on rare occasion) telling the truth.
 

Sidiron

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Gilhelmi said:
Also, hindsight and 20/20. My internet browser saves all my passwords, as do many other people who also use the internet. I am lucky that if my computer repair shop did this to me (or anyone else) they would forced to shutdown in less then 6 months. Why? because I live in a small town and everyone I know (1/2 the town) and everyone they know (other 1/2) would stop doing business with someone they could not trust on their computers.
That is true, but this is a problem with, as I said, the laziness of human beings. But instead of accepting the fact that I'm an idiot for leaving all my personal data open to inspection/tampering, because face it the intention and the result were not malicious nor really detrimental to the victim. If he had used the access to commit fraud or pornography offences for example, this would be a different matter.
Also I am not condoning the action that was perpetrated merely stating, again, that when taken as part of the big picture; getting someone sacked over such a trivial thing and trying to sue over it, is plain pathetic and vindicitive.
 

Gilhelmi

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Sidiron said:
Gilhelmi said:
Also, hindsight and 20/20. My internet browser saves all my passwords, as do many other people who also use the internet. I am lucky that if my computer repair shop did this to me (or anyone else) they would forced to shutdown in less then 6 months. Why? because I live in a small town and everyone I know (1/2 the town) and everyone they know (other 1/2) would stop doing business with someone they could not trust on their computers.
That is true, but this is a problem with, as I said, the laziness of human beings. But instead of accepting the fact that I'm an idiot for leaving all my personal data open to inspection/tampering, because face it the intention and the result were not malicious nor really detrimental to the victim. If he had used the access to commit fraud or pornography offenses for example, this would be a different matter.
Also I am not condoning the action that was perpetrated merely stating, again, that when taken as part of the big picture; getting someone sacked over such a trivial thing and trying to sue over it, is plain pathetic and vindictive.
I guess it comes down to my dislike of lying. I view it as an assault against society and one of the major causes for the decline of civilization.

So my final word is this. Vindictive, yes but only if the victim asks for far too much money, otherwise No. $15,000-$20,000 tops for the suit. much more then that is ridiculous. Pathetic, No because it comes down too personal honor and my personal word, My word is my bond. If I promise to do something, it will be done. If I say something it is the truth to the best of my knowledge.
 

jovack22

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This guy sounds like a huge closet gay.
For anyone to care about it that much to have to explain himself to everyone...
 

Sidiron

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Gilhelmi said:
I guess it comes down to my dislike of lying. I view it as an assault against society and one of the major causes for the decline of civilization.

So my final word is this. Vindictive, yes but only if the victim asks for far too much money, otherwise No. $15,000-$20,000 tops for the suit. much more then that is ridiculous. Pathetic, No because it comes down too personal honor and my personal word, My word is my bond. If I promise to do something, it will be done. If I say something it is the truth to the best of my knowledge.
I doff my hat to you, honestly, using your word as your bond and holding promises in such high esteem is a particular noble ambition, and one I share.
However, I seek to differ when it comes to the prospect of reimbursement or as we should really call it retribution. It is truly vindictive, because it is "showing a strong or unreasoning desire for revenge, often with a desire to hurt."
In a country where a record 88.4 million people are considered "not in the labor force" and the percentage of the working age population actually in work is the lowest since December 1981, I do think that sacking someone and then suing after that, is vindictive and an over the top response.

To FelixG, this "asshole employee" may have commited a transgression but as things are not nice absolutes we look at the results and implications, which were to be blunt fuck all, it didn't cause the poor victim to lose his house or struggle in terms of finances, because if it did then the gay communtiy that everyone seems to enjoy denigrating so much would be up in arms about that, becuase he would have been a victim of homophobic discrimination. But even here it would not be the fault of the twonk who did the 'fraping'.

Let me reitterate, the guy was obviously a twit for doing it, he probably did it for a giggle, and am sure he kicks himself now. But it isn't this great invasion that you are making it out to be, if you are concerned about that, get irrate at your damn governments, because I can assure you that they will take more glee and benefit from invading your privacy than some "asshole employee" behind a sodding counter.
 

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FelixG said:
Harbinger_ said:
blalien said:
Harbinger_ said:
With the near global acceptance for homosexuality these days this will be thrown out in court. As soon as he mentions that he doesn't like homosexuals the court will be instantly against him.
Global acceptance? Homosexuality is the number one reason children are disowned by their parents in America. Most states allow employers to fire employees based on their sexual orientation, and a year ago being outed as gay would have automatically gotten you discharged from the military. There is still a sizable portion of the US population that thinks homosexuality should be a felony. A bill that would help protect women against domestic violence is currently being held up in Congress because that bill would also help lesbians. Even if you are in no way a homophobe, people thinking you're gay can seriously damage your reputation.

This guy has every right to sue. Anybody who thinks this is no big deal is not aware of how bad gay people still have it in this country. Hopefully he was able to convince his friends and family it was just a Facebook prank.
And if the court rules in his favor then it can be construed that the court isn't in favor of homosexuality and the press/media have a field day. Like I said thrown out of court.
Quite frankly anyone who perceives a court as being anti homosexual because they take this case is a flat out idiot. There is a huge difference between being anti homosexual and being anti data tampering.
And the media would never in the slightest do anything like that to... oh I don't know... make sales?
Even if it's inaccurate, controversy sells.
 

Callate

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Y'know, the vast majority of us here may not have any issues with anyone else's sexuality, but we don't know that about this gentleman's friends and family. It's far from impossible that there are people in his life who wouldn't understand that an account could be mis-used this way, and even people who would "unfriend" him upon the revelation.

He has every right to be angry. And someone who would play such a potentially harmful "prank" on a customer shouldn't be allowed to remain in a position to do so. You might think being believed a homosexual shouldn't have a negative impact on someone's life, but don't in your belief misunderstand that it doesn't; we're not there yet, not by a long shot.
 

martyrdrebel27

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Draconalis said:
martyrdrebel27 said:
asexual people...
People cannot reproduce without the aid of another. People are not Asexual.
i used the word wrong, but i stand by the logic i used. if something is atypical, it's not typical.

the a- prefix means "not" or "un" basically. my logic was Asexual is Non-sexual.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/asexual?s=t

and there's a dictionary.com entry to support that. so next time you correct someone, try not to be wrong.

EDIT: i love the smell of victory in the morning. (not that you would know that smell.)
 

Sidiron

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FelixG said:
Instead he has been labeled as a homophobe because he doesn't want to be identified as gay and all sorts of people are calling him names because they think he is some kind of asshole because of it.

Though it is quite revealing that you have no issue with people invading your privacy. Guess its a symptom of todays youth.
Please refrain from the sneering condescension, as I am hardly the voice of "today's youth" neither am I saying that I have no issue with people invading my privacy, as you would note if you read the entirity of my post and didn't wish to mis-represent it.
I would be interested at what your advanced level of psychoanalysis reveals about my approach to privacy, most genuinely.

I do not think he is an arsehole because he finds being identified as gay as a slur on his reputation, I find the idea/comment lacking judgement and/or a solid supportive social network, but that could possibly be a problem endemic with the youths of today?

Similarly getting bogged down in the minutiae of privacy protection is slightly problematic when the governments of the west are trying (and somewhat succeeding) to erode civil liberties faster than it is making people homeless, but evidently fraping is breaching some sacresanct imperative and is the true sign that the world is degrading round our ears.

Apologies, for being so deluded and mis-guided, and if I may I will take my leave and let you administer your teachings to the rest.
 

Endocrom

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"..one wasted summer spent trying to sign up a friend for an al-Qaeda terrorist cell"

Am I the only one that finds that potentially worse?
 

AvsJoe

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"He's currently exploring his legal options with his attorney. That is not a euphemism."

If it was that would be the greatest euphemism I've heard all year. I'm "exploring" my "legal options" with my "attorney", wink, wink.
 

mooncalf

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Have a heart, the dude got fired! Isn't that enough? Oh well, it was a dick move.
 

BabyRaptor

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Hats off to the employee. People who hold bigoted attitudes like that deserve whatever shit life throws at them.
 

rattusvirtualis

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I think another important point to consider is that the bloke handed his phone over in good faith and his trust in the company was abused. And if the employee was willingr to go into his facebook account, what else would have been willing to do? for instance, if a banking app had been left open and the employee had messed with his finances, would he still be an over-reacting arsehole? I suspect not.
 

Calibanbutcher

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BabyRaptor said:
Hats off to the employee. People who hold bigoted attitudes like that deserve whatever shit life throws at them.
How is the man bigoted?
He never said anything to imply that he dislikes gays, however he does not want to be identified as one.
As rattusvirtualis said, he handed over his possesions in good trust, and this trust was abused.
How does one become a homophobe from saying that one IS not gay and does not want to be outed, since one is not?
Because I am not gay and have no sexual interest in men whatsoever, yet some friends of mine are gay. Am I a homophobe now, for not wanting to be called gay, not being gay and not wanting to sleep with men?
 

rattusvirtualis

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BabyRaptor said:
Hats off to the employee. People who hold bigoted attitudes like that deserve whatever shit life throws at them.
It is NOT bigotted to not like be labelled as something one is not.
 

Buizel91

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Mr.Wizard said:
Harbinger_ said:
With the near global acceptance for homosexuality these days this will be thrown out in court. As soon as he mentions that he doesn't like homosexuals the court will be instantly against him.
Where? Where is he actually saying that he doesn't like homosexuals? Admittedly the link to the source was a flash video so I haven't seen the original video, but I can't see anything quoted in this article that makes me think the man is homophobic. All I see is that being implied by the author of the story.
"Now the "sign in as someone else and make them say embarrassing stuff" prank has been a mainstay of pubescent jokery for years - I recall one wasted summer spent trying to sign up a friend for an al-Qaeda terrorist cell - but Dewberry isn't laughing. He apparently isn't very fond of homosexuals."

Right there :p
 

Calibanbutcher

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arc1991 said:
Mr.Wizard said:
Harbinger_ said:
With the near global acceptance for homosexuality these days this will be thrown out in court. As soon as he mentions that he doesn't like homosexuals the court will be instantly against him.
Where? Where is he actually saying that he doesn't like homosexuals? Admittedly the link to the source was a flash video so I haven't seen the original video, but I can't see anything quoted in this article that makes me think the man is homophobic. All I see is that being implied by the author of the story.
"Now the "sign in as someone else and make them say embarrassing stuff" prank has been a mainstay of pubescent jokery for years - I recall one wasted summer spent trying to sign up a friend for an al-Qaeda terrorist cell - but Dewberry isn't laughing. He apparently isn't very fond of homosexuals."

Right there :p
No, THERE the escapist says that he isn't very fond of homosexuals.
Show me where Dewberry HIMSELF said that he dislikes homosexuals.