Huh...so we find out the guy is absent-minded, then we find out the employee is immature, then we find out that the guy is intolerant of homosexuals. We don't know the employee's name, but we know the guy's name. Who comes off worse, I wonder.
Best Buy Employee "Outs" Straight Guy
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It is however pretty bigoted to call someone gay with the intent of hurting someone. Looking at the big picture Baby raptor may want to put his hat back on.rattusvirtualis said:
Eh? I believe Baby Raptor was calling the customer bigotted, not the employee.The Hungry Samurai said:
EDITED: My bad... Ignore me
Did we read the same article? I still don't see where the customer is shown as intolerant to anyone, except the employee/company that abused his trust.MeChaNiZ3D said:
Yes you did, glad you can admit it.martyrdrebel27 said:
For the record. Humans have sexual organs and genders. The "No sex" in that definition applies to gender, not the act of making naughty. It is a word that defines a form of reproduction, that is the meaning of the word.
Next time you want to rebuttal in a defensive way, make sure you know what your talking about.
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Ah, definition number 2 for the Unabridged Dictionary supports your claim... there's a reason I don't ever read the Unabridged definitions... it defines how people use words wrong. I do not acknowledge sources that use words incorrectly.
Bullshit.LastGreatBlasphemer said:
People get fraped all the time, nobody ever GENUINELY believes that, if someone has a status saying "I am gay", followed shortly by a "Sorry guys, not gay - got fraped", then they're just backpedalling on a 'coming out' that didn't go too well.
Indeed, of the two people I've seen come out (genuinely) on facebook, both had to actually insist, repeatedly, that they were in fact, gay, and that they had not simply been fraped, or done it for a laugh.
... I dunno, maybe I just know fewer retarded people than everyone else? (unlikely, I live in the British equivalent of the American deep-south (Yorkshire), where there are a lot of inbred retards).
Enlighten me, if you don't mind, on why you hold this view in this case. "whatever shit life throws at them" is also a pretty general license for misfortune to befall people you disagree with.BabyRaptor said:
OT: Best Buy is going to throw this employee under the bus, if there's anything more they can do to do so
I do get very irate at the government. The Patriot act was a B.A.D., bad idea. Warrentless searches/wiretaps is just plain unconstitutional and I am still waiting for someone with money to take the case all the way to the supreme court. I would but sadly I do not have the tens of millions it takes to take something to the supreme court.Sidiron said:
What you're saying is, you feel homosexuality is something that shouldn't just be accepted as a part of every day life? That it's something which should be taken completely seriously, and not simply given the same treatment as everything else in life?LastGreatBlasphemer said:
'Some people are gay, get over it.', is the general attitude round my way, just something to think about.
Next time you're right about the tiniest thing, try not to be smug.[sub]It's called manners.[/sub]martyrdrebel27 said:
Hmmm... The lady doth protest too much, methinks. Anyone who thinks about going to court over that has got to be overcompensating.
This guy who got hacked isn't stupid. hes not even bigoted (As far as any of us can tell). Hes perhaps a little bit dim in the technology department, but that's hardly the point.
First, to the people who think he dislikes homosexuality: No. Just...no. If a gay person had there's Facebook hacked and had a post that said, "Ive been confused all this time, being straight is the only way for me to be", that person would have a right to be pissed. That is not an insult to straight people, it simply demonstrates that having other people try to impose your sexual orientation on you is degrading and insulting. Its not about acceptance, its about being misrepresented. Personally, I don't want people to think i'm gay. Not because I have any problems with gay people, Im absolutely fine with homosexuality. I'm just not gay.
People take issue with him talking about his tarnished reputation. Is that bigoted? Well, lets ask this guys sweet but a bit old fashioned strict catholic grandmother, his girlfriend who he has been getting in fights with lately, his ex who nagged him about his bedroom performance who is apologizing for never understanding what the real cause was, his stupid acquaintance who avoids you in the locker room now, and his business client who may be a bit homophobic, but also has that huge account at your business where you make your living.
Should he have signed out of Facebook? You know, on my phone, I press the Facebook button and my account comes up. And Facebook is just one of many things I can go to, and my password is saved for ease of access. I can absolutely see myself getting a phone repaired without even thinking that the people doing the repairs might behave so unprofessionally. Besides, he was getting his phone repaired. It's not a phone, but when my computer died while it was under warentee, I sent it back to get fixed. If I was capable of turning the computer on to sign out of Facebook, I wouldn't have needed to get it fixed. Leaving his Facebook open is absolutely and completely reasonable.
Some people says that they have had there Facebooks hacked and were made to say stupid things and laugh. These people were your friends. They know you, and they know how you will react. Its very different to have a complete stranger that you are entrusting and PAYING for a job to betray you like that. Oh also, makes you wonder what other information these former employees snooped for.
Now the real issue is that this guy, like most Facebook users I imagine, doesn't seem to understand Facebook. Delete the post, and post a status saying something about how your phone was hacked. Problem solved. Sure, this guy should know that. Hes a bit dim in regards to facebook. Granted. But importantly, he has no obligation to be a Facebook expert to protect himself against professionals that he is paying. Just like if you break a guys nose by punching him in the face, "He has a weak nose" is not a defense.
First, to the people who think he dislikes homosexuality: No. Just...no. If a gay person had there's Facebook hacked and had a post that said, "Ive been confused all this time, being straight is the only way for me to be", that person would have a right to be pissed. That is not an insult to straight people, it simply demonstrates that having other people try to impose your sexual orientation on you is degrading and insulting. Its not about acceptance, its about being misrepresented. Personally, I don't want people to think i'm gay. Not because I have any problems with gay people, Im absolutely fine with homosexuality. I'm just not gay.
People take issue with him talking about his tarnished reputation. Is that bigoted? Well, lets ask this guys sweet but a bit old fashioned strict catholic grandmother, his girlfriend who he has been getting in fights with lately, his ex who nagged him about his bedroom performance who is apologizing for never understanding what the real cause was, his stupid acquaintance who avoids you in the locker room now, and his business client who may be a bit homophobic, but also has that huge account at your business where you make your living.
Should he have signed out of Facebook? You know, on my phone, I press the Facebook button and my account comes up. And Facebook is just one of many things I can go to, and my password is saved for ease of access. I can absolutely see myself getting a phone repaired without even thinking that the people doing the repairs might behave so unprofessionally. Besides, he was getting his phone repaired. It's not a phone, but when my computer died while it was under warentee, I sent it back to get fixed. If I was capable of turning the computer on to sign out of Facebook, I wouldn't have needed to get it fixed. Leaving his Facebook open is absolutely and completely reasonable.
Some people says that they have had there Facebooks hacked and were made to say stupid things and laugh. These people were your friends. They know you, and they know how you will react. Its very different to have a complete stranger that you are entrusting and PAYING for a job to betray you like that. Oh also, makes you wonder what other information these former employees snooped for.
Now the real issue is that this guy, like most Facebook users I imagine, doesn't seem to understand Facebook. Delete the post, and post a status saying something about how your phone was hacked. Problem solved. Sure, this guy should know that. Hes a bit dim in regards to facebook. Granted. But importantly, he has no obligation to be a Facebook expert to protect himself against professionals that he is paying. Just like if you break a guys nose by punching him in the face, "He has a weak nose" is not a defense.
...sorry I had too.CardinalPiggles said:
On topic, this is why I don't use Facebook, I don't feel it's prudent to put your entire social life on the internet, too unstable yeah?
He's pursuing legal action against a company because he got Fraped, even though the guy responsible has already been sacked and he comes out with a line like "tarnished reputation" as if being gay were something to be ashamed of.
How can I have sympathy for a man when he'd rather the world know he's a spiteful, greedy little man child instead of letting a few people think he was gay? Something he could of easily cleared up by replying to the offending post on his wall with "Wasn't me, got Fraped".
That or he's just a dick playing the whole thing up for a payout thanks to his parasite lawyer.
How can I have sympathy for a man when he'd rather the world know he's a spiteful, greedy little man child instead of letting a few people think he was gay? Something he could of easily cleared up by replying to the offending post on his wall with "Wasn't me, got Fraped".
That or he's just a dick playing the whole thing up for a payout thanks to his parasite lawyer.
I'm pretty sure he can sue for slander. At the very least it counts as sexual harassment.
And personally, I feel this guy has every right to feel like his reputation has been tarnished.
-Stop right there, hear me out. I am NOT a homophobe. I accept, condone, and support equality of sexual orientation.-
Like it or not, when someone you solidly thought was one sexual orientation turns out to be another, it can change your perception of that person drastically. And when I say "solidly thought," I mean that you haven't had to convince yourself they're straight/gay/bi. I mean that it just didn't occur to you that they could be anything else.
You start talking to them differently. You avoid or explore certain subjects you wouldn't've otherwise. And that's just how NICE people react to that realization. There are still PLENTY of bigoted assholes who will do much worse in reaction.
And personally, I feel this guy has every right to feel like his reputation has been tarnished.
-Stop right there, hear me out. I am NOT a homophobe. I accept, condone, and support equality of sexual orientation.-
Like it or not, when someone you solidly thought was one sexual orientation turns out to be another, it can change your perception of that person drastically. And when I say "solidly thought," I mean that you haven't had to convince yourself they're straight/gay/bi. I mean that it just didn't occur to you that they could be anything else.
You start talking to them differently. You avoid or explore certain subjects you wouldn't've otherwise. And that's just how NICE people react to that realization. There are still PLENTY of bigoted assholes who will do much worse in reaction.
Not many people heard that story about the old man, the young boy, the apple, and the pillow full of feathers?
The fact is that Facebook as it is today does have real-world implications. Not nearly as bad as stating that you're a part of Al-Quaeda in the US which would land you in Gitmo (wouldn't be surprised to learn that it has actually happened).
Also, coming out is Hell. I'm not gay so I can't speak from experience, but I can understand the pressure. Nervousness. Rejection. All that sunshine and rainbow stuff. They have to prepare themselves for it. Some never do it. Those who do it do so because it is an important part of their identity. Whether or not we think about it, our sexuality, or lack thereof, plays a large role in our day-to-day lives and does affect our ability to coexist with certain people in reality. Before you state "Just forget about those people. They don't want you, they want an illusion." Bear in mind that these are family members and long-time friends that have one undesirable position.
This guy just walked into a Best Buy and the next thing he knows, his ex is on the phone asking about his sexual identity. No warning. No need for the emotional stress that does come from being a 30-something year old man asked about a key part of his sexual identity. Also, a post wouldn't get the job done because the people in question who think he is gay likely heard it from someone else.
Even if he stated to the employee that he was gay, they still would have no right to do so. THey breached privacy by using a personal account and using another's identity to misrepresent them.
And yes, I do consider being identified as homosexual while not being homosexual offensive. I consider my sexuality an important part of my existence. When it is called into question, I am insecure in my identity because of the perception of others. You can give all that hogwash that others aren't important, but it's hogwash. It doesn't mean I don't like homosexuals. It means that I am upset that a part of me is being called into question.
You also have to consider that this man, along with his close persons, might not be a part of the technological generation and may be unfamiliar with the reach of the internet. They might assume things are worse than they actually are.
The fact is that Facebook as it is today does have real-world implications. Not nearly as bad as stating that you're a part of Al-Quaeda in the US which would land you in Gitmo (wouldn't be surprised to learn that it has actually happened).
Also, coming out is Hell. I'm not gay so I can't speak from experience, but I can understand the pressure. Nervousness. Rejection. All that sunshine and rainbow stuff. They have to prepare themselves for it. Some never do it. Those who do it do so because it is an important part of their identity. Whether or not we think about it, our sexuality, or lack thereof, plays a large role in our day-to-day lives and does affect our ability to coexist with certain people in reality. Before you state "Just forget about those people. They don't want you, they want an illusion." Bear in mind that these are family members and long-time friends that have one undesirable position.
This guy just walked into a Best Buy and the next thing he knows, his ex is on the phone asking about his sexual identity. No warning. No need for the emotional stress that does come from being a 30-something year old man asked about a key part of his sexual identity. Also, a post wouldn't get the job done because the people in question who think he is gay likely heard it from someone else.
Even if he stated to the employee that he was gay, they still would have no right to do so. THey breached privacy by using a personal account and using another's identity to misrepresent them.
And yes, I do consider being identified as homosexual while not being homosexual offensive. I consider my sexuality an important part of my existence. When it is called into question, I am insecure in my identity because of the perception of others. You can give all that hogwash that others aren't important, but it's hogwash. It doesn't mean I don't like homosexuals. It means that I am upset that a part of me is being called into question.
You also have to consider that this man, along with his close persons, might not be a part of the technological generation and may be unfamiliar with the reach of the internet. They might assume things are worse than they actually are.