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sunami88

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crimson5pheonix said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118019

nuff said.
Agreed. Anything ZALMAN.

EDIT:
Thermaltake is more than adequate as well. That said, this from the guy running stock cooling on his 45nm quad core (q9400).
 

Mariena

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I have a Scythe Infinity on my CPU. If you want a massive, not too pricey, amazing cooler that's quiet as well.... then take that one.

However, it has a few nasty downsides:

It's huge.
It's a ***** to install.

I also cut my fingers on the fins because there are so many of em, and they're pretty damn sharp (they're really thin).
 

sunami88

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Mariena said:
I also cut my fingers on the fins because there are so many of em, and they're pretty damn sharp (they're really thin).
Oh... my... GOD!!
 

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Mariena said:
I have a Scythe Infinity on my CPU. If you want a massive, not too pricey, amazing cooler that's quiet as well.... then take that one.

However, it has a few nasty downsides:

It's huge.
It's a ***** to install.

I also cut my fingers on the fins because there are so many of em, and they're pretty damn sharp (they're really thin).
... ... ...

*Speechless*
 

crimsondynamics

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Darth Marsden said:
Like I say, I'm not an expert at these things - I was mostly just looking for a recommendation to buy. Having looked at it, I think I'm gonna go with this one [http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835106114]. My main concern is installing it - I'd prefer not to remove all of the bits of my PC to do it, but if needs must, then so be it.
You can do much better than that.

There are three main considerations (apart from price of course) when selecting a fan, and they are CFM, RPM and dB. These three factors are intertwined.

- CFM is the amount of air the fan is capable of displacing at a given RPM.
- RPM is the revolutions per minute that the fan normally operates in.
- dB is the noise the fan will generate at the given RPM and CFM.

Taking this into account, the best fan you can get is one which displaces a large volume of air, or CFM, with the least decibels, or dB. RPM is useful because it gives you "leeway". If you desire more airflow, you can increase the fan's RPM - but you sacrifice dB. The opposite of course applies: if you want less fan noise, you can lower the RPM, but you sacrifice the CFM.

In any case, that ThermalTake DuoOrb is rated at:

Fan size: 80mm (x2)
CFM: 37.67
Noise level: 21dBA
Operating RPM: 2,000 (forget about going higher with 80mm fans, unless you don't mind your computer sounding like a personal jet taking off)
Price: $64.99

Instead, consider this:

Thermalright SI-120 ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835109123 )
Price: $47.99

coupled with this:

Scythe SY1225SL12L 120mm ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185057 )
Price: $8.99

The fan's ratings are:

Fan size: 120mm
CFM: 40.17
Operating RPM: 800 (very low; you can easily double the RPM, have better cooling and still be under the Thermaltake's operating RPM and dB)
Noise level: 10.7dBA (keep in mind that decibel noise increases logarithmically)

The total is: $56.98

Remember what I said about decibels being logarithmic? I am not sure if you are aware of this, but don't think that a 10dB difference is minor. In reality the difference is massive.

Another bonus is the setup I recommend follows a more conventional heatsink / fan combination traditionally found in stock CPU coolers, so setup should be easier and space constraints less of an issue than the ThermalTake you have shortlisted.

Anyhow, my 2 cents...
 

Darth Marsden

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Interesting choices, thanks for the replies.

I'd prefer an all-in-one, for simplicities sake. I've never been all that confident when putting together PCs, connecting two things together would be cause for concern on my part.

The fan I have at the moment is a Scythe - this one, I believe [http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185044], though I could be mistaken - so my faith in them isn't exactly high ATM.

I have plenty of space in my case, so that's not really an issue. My priority is cooling (one more jokey picture and I'll start unleashing my motivational posters), so if I could find one that's great for cooling as well as relatively quiet, that'd do me nicely.
 

mintsauce

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searanox said:
I really, really don't recommend the stuff by Arctic Cooling. It gets the job done, but it's not that much better than most stock equipment.
Have to disagree with you there - that's a totally incorrect generalisation. Arctic Cooling gear is very good and comes highly recommended. If you look on sites like overclockers.co.uk you'll see nothing but 5-star reviews for the Freezer 7 Pro, which is one of the best coolers on the market and is able to knock an average of 15 degrees off stock cooler temperatures. I use one myself and my Core 2 6750 idles around 25 degrees C.
 

crimsondynamics

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mintsauce said:
searanox said:
I really, really don't recommend the stuff by Arctic Cooling. It gets the job done, but it's not that much better than most stock equipment.
Have to disagree with you there - that's a totally incorrect generalisation. Arctic Cooling gear is very good and comes highly recommended. If you look on sites like overclockers.co.uk you'll see nothing but 5-star reviews for the Freezer 7 Pro, which is one of the best coolers on the market and is able to knock an average of 15 degrees off stock cooler temperatures. I use one myself and my Core 2 6750 idles around 25 degrees C.
I second that. I have the Freezer 7. My Core2Duo is overclocked 30% and the temperatures are lower than the stock Intel cooler without overclock on idle. When playing games, it only increases by 3-4 degrees C over idle. Cheap as well. The only thing I'm not sure of is whether it can be mounted to your Athlon.
 

Hithlain

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My computers always overheat. Always. I feel like I need to move to the arctic or pump liquid nitrogen through the computer and perhaps only then will I be able to play in peace, not having to worry if my computer is going to cough it's last breath when I turn on Psychonauts.
 

mintsauce

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Hithlain said:
My computers always overheat. Always. I feel like I need to move to the arctic or pump liquid nitrogen through the computer and perhaps only then will I be able to play in peace, not having to worry if my computer is going to cough it's last breath when I turn on Psychonauts.
I know we're going a bit off topic, but what kind of case do you have? And what kind of cooling setup do you run in your case?
 

beddo

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I've just built a PC, I used the Scythe mine. It's very quiet and has decent cooling potential, I had the perfect balance for me. It can be a pain to put in though they all are really.

Just make sure the dimensions are not too big for your case.

[link]http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=2125[/link]
 

Darth Marsden

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Well, I've got two recommendations for the Arctic Cooling Freezer 7, which is good enough for me. I'm gonna go for this one [http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductID=340995&source=froogle]. Let me know if I've made the wrong choice, since I'm gonna order it tomorrow.

Thanks for all your help, guys.
 

Hithlain

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mintsauce said:
Hithlain said:
My computers always overheat. Always. I feel like I need to move to the arctic or pump liquid nitrogen through the computer and perhaps only then will I be able to play in peace, not having to worry if my computer is going to cough it's last breath when I turn on Psychonauts.
I know we're going a bit off topic, but what kind of case do you have? And what kind of cooling setup do you run in your case?

Haha, it's a HP Compaq nc6320 laptop. I'm a poor college student and need a portable computer to do work in the business lab. However, it does make for really, really, REALLY poor gaming. And it makes me sad when my computer tries to cough up a lung in order to get a game started.
 

Danny Ocean

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Darth Marsden said:
Well, I've got two recommendations for the Arctic Cooling Freezer 7, which is good enough for me. I'm gonna go for this one [http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductID=340995&source=froogle]. Let me know if I've made the wrong choice, since I'm gonna order it tomorrow.

Thanks for all your help, guys.
Looks like a good choice to me, don't feel that you can't post here if you have any trouble with it. :)
 

SinisterDeath

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mintsauce said:
searanox said:
I really, really don't recommend the stuff by Arctic Cooling. It gets the job done, but it's not that much better than most stock equipment.
Have to disagree with you there - that's a totally incorrect generalisation. Arctic Cooling gear is very good and comes highly recommended. If you look on sites like overclockers.co.uk you'll see nothing but 5-star reviews for the Freezer 7 Pro, which is one of the best coolers on the market and is able to knock an average of 15 degrees off stock cooler temperatures. I use one myself and my Core 2 6750 idles around 25 degrees C.
Are Core 2 6750s colder then quads?
Cause I know a guy, who has a similar build to me. (Q6600) with the same heat sink/fan cooler (Arctic cooling) as I do.
He reports either 25c or 30c cpu temperatures. I'm getting 45c. :(
Not that 45c is BAD, and to be honest, when I got the Antec Nine Hundred case, my temperature dropped 15 degrees. (Yea, it used to be 55-60c!!)

Honestly, You can NOT forget about thermal pastes/oils/ect.
I think I used a different brand then the person who has a pc similar to mine quite honestly, and that probably makes a huge difference in temperatures.
Theres also the possibility I didn't apply the thermal paste on my cpu 100% correct. I say this, mostly be cause all 4 of my cores are different tempeartures. The biggest temperature difference is 8c, which seems alot to me.... (Plus the hottest one is the 4th core of all cores...)

Of course, having a GeForce 9800 GTX doesn't all help with tempeatures in a pc that is basically designed to run hot. ;)