Biden v. Trump Election Mega Thread

Who will win the election?

  • SleepyJoe

    Votes: 15 30.0%
  • Donald Trump

    Votes: 9 18.0%
  • It doesn't matter who wins, because we will all lose in some way.

    Votes: 26 52.0%

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Trunkage

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Can anyone tell me who Bruce Ohr is and why Trump is so happy to cancel him?

Edit: and why so many people are cheering for it
 

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Lose 1d20 sanity points.
Indeed, recommending the people be armed and be ready to form a militia would make me feel much less safe.
I can understand the sentiment, since by the same token that it can help protect the people, it can also help separatists arm themselves.

A few elements, sure, but... I mean, those municipalities still have governments running services. That's kind of the most important divergence possible, no?
Well I'm pretty sure Anarchy itself is much more complicated than simply abolishing the government, the premise of it is partly to abolish all unjustified hierarchies, this doesn't necessarily mean to abolish all structures, after utility services like water, electricity, communication services, etcétera are still needed especially if you want to provide people with a good quality of life, so we don't want to abolish the distribution systems, we want to restructure them, in reality Anarchy has a lot in common with Marxism, it's just that communism states that a temporary government is necessary while we achieve stability in our society, as a transitional phase if you will, it is supposedly the goal to achieve a point where government is no longer needed, so we're skipping that and going directly for a decentralised completely horizontal form of government where decisions are made by the people rather than elected officials, now information about the EZLN is a bit more limited than I would like, but it is my understanding that this is supposedly their form of governance and how they decide to use these services, therefore technically the structure of Zapatism shares more in common with Libertarian Socialism (Considered to be a form of Anarchy) than it does with Communist Leninism, however since the Neozapatist movement did start as a Communist Leninist movement it could be argued to be Communism instead, since it does still share a lot of ideology with that movement.

That being said I will admit that it is entirely possible I'm wrong about this, I do want to research it further and I want to see if it would be possible to travel there and interview people, since I don't really have anything better to do with my life anyway, it's unlikely that would happen soon though.
 

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Yeh so people actually are thinking along those lines and doing it.

Man how they'll feel in 10 to 20 years when politics have moved on to something far different to what we see today and they decided to push away and get rid of their family and friends over something ultimately so pointless and [current year] politics.
...is this just a game of football to you? Do you not actually have any kind of stake in the outcomes of elections?

Because one party is trying to annul my uncle's marriage and claim the right for employers and landlords to discriminate against my friends.

No shit I'm gonna cut ties with people who think that's an okay thing to do
 
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...is this just a game of football to you? Do you not actually have any kind of stake in the outcomes of elections?
Of course it's not like football to me.

Football is far more serious business.

Do I have a stake? yes watching the Democrat party hopefully finally learn their damn lessons this time fully not just the "Stop attacking your own supporters" bit but also the "Don't cave to corporate interests and try to rig your damn candidate selection" part.


Because one party is trying to annul my uncle's marriage and claim the right for employers and landlords to discriminate against my friends.

No shit I'm gonna cut ties with people who think that's an okay thing to do
One party was supposedly trying to annul your Uncle's marriage in 2016 and despite having far more control at the time they didn't do it, so why would it be different this time?

Don't fall for the BS scare tactics etc

I mean come on this whole this narrative of now gay republicans was being called out to an extent in 2013 by American Dad

 

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One party was supposedly trying to annul your Uncle's marriage in 2016 and despite having far more control at the time they didn't do it, so why would it be different this time?
...3 more seats on the Supreme Court, that's what's fucking changed. Pay attention

I dunno what fantasy-Macfarlane-land you live in, but in the real world these fuckers don't stop trying
 

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...3 more seats on the Supreme Court, that's what's fucking changed. Pay attention

I dunno what fantasy-Macfarlane-land you live in, but in the real world these fuckers don't stop trying
You get there's plenty of likely other ways it could and would be stopped right?
 

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Ok, sure, the Army For Trump comes across a little bit Weimarer Republik, but I'm sure it'll be fine. If anything, all that zeal in the name of proper election proceedings can only be commended. But if you're still worried and find yourself faced with a polling station manned by 45's fanclub, no sweat, I have a cunning plan:

Walk in with a Trump sweater, vote, walk out and turn around, ripping up your sweater WWE style, showing a Biden t-shirt underneath.

You'll be glad you did, if and when you wake up in the ICU, cuz that shit was epic and so cash money! /s
 

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Well as there are black Trump supporters, Gay Trump supporters and presumably black gay Trump supporters I'd say now it would seem more like partisan buzzwords to deem those as the reasons for a schism.
This is utterly meaningless, and I shouldn't really need to explain why.

As Biden has said he has no intention to go for Bernie's health care plans or improving that much then that' also quite out the window here too.
Even if Biden didn't move an inch on healthcare, Trump has stated his intention to repeal the ACA. There's a reason a lot of Biden's campaign imagery has focused on people with pre-existing health conditions.
 

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I can understand the sentiment, since by the same token that it can help protect the people, it can also help separatists arm themselves.
It can also help every Tom, Dick and Harry get a gun.

Well I'm pretty sure Anarchy itself is much more complicated than simply abolishing the government, the premise of it is partly to abolish all unjustified hierarchies, this doesn't necessarily mean to abolish all structures, after utility services like water, electricity, communication services, etcétera are still needed especially if you want to provide people with a good quality of life, so we don't want to abolish the distribution systems, we want to restructure them, in reality Anarchy has a lot in common with Marxism, it's just that communism states that a temporary government is necessary while we achieve stability in our society, as a transitional phase if you will, it is supposedly the goal to achieve a point where government is no longer needed, so we're skipping that and going directly for a decentralised completely horizontal form of government where decisions are made by the people rather than elected officials, now information about the EZLN is a bit more limited than I would like, but it is my understanding that this is supposedly their form of governance and how they decide to use these services, therefore technically the structure of Zapatism shares more in common with Libertarian Socialism (Considered to be a form of Anarchy) than it does with Communist Leninism, however since the Neozapatist movement did start as a Communist Leninist movement it could be argued to be Communism instead, since it does still share a lot of ideology with that movement.

That being said I will admit that it is entirely possible I'm wrong about this, I do want to research it further and I want to see if it would be possible to travel there and interview people, since I don't really have anything better to do with my life anyway, it's unlikely that would happen soon though.
As it's been hitherto understood, all structures-- such as necessary utilities and industries-- would be run in some communal, non-hierarchical fashion, such as by a local worker-formed syndicate. Having a government structure run it is antithetical.

If you're envisaging a government running these utilities and industries (even if it's a very egalitarian government or one with very high worker representation, or entirely formed by workers) then you're envisaging some form of radical socialism, not anarchy/anarchism.
 

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Did anyone catch the Trump/Pence ad that “quoted” Dr. Anthony Fauci in support of Trump’s response to the pandemic? I know disingenuousness in political ads is nothing new, but this was such an egregiously “Trump” move; they didn’t even bother to hide the fact that the quote was very selective in its wording. With a big picture of Fauci, it reads along the bottom something to the effect: ”I don’t think… anyone could have done more.” It had the “dot-dot-dot” and everything. It also had Fauci’s voice over, but there’s a noticeable hiccup between the words “think” and “anyone.” I’m almost certain that “dot-dot-dot” held Fauci’s true sentiments; I’m also fairly certain they weren’t defending the Trump administration’s handling of the pandemic. Trump has routinely drug Fauci through the mud, contradicting him every step of the way; how spiteful can you be to skew a man’s words to relay the opposite of his intended message?.
 

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Bonding exercise for 'The Left(TM)' (i do not know how to make letters go high and small) hopefully...? Minimise harm for fellow citizens and world citizens plz? Sometimes minimising harm for others requires uncomfortable comprises.
Looks around my living room.. There are no less than 3 Cashew nuts cans in my house.. I actually LIKE cashews. What is wrong with him for not liking cashews?! Now I also have almonds, pecans and walnuts here too, but I buy all my nuts individually so I get exactly what I want rather than complain about what nuts they put in a mixed nuts can. XD
 

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Did anyone catch the Trump/Pence ad that “quoted” Dr. Anthony Fauci in support of Trump’s response to the pandemic? I know disingenuousness in political ads is nothing new, but this was such an egregiously “Trump” move; they didn’t even bother to hide the fact that the quote was very selective in its wording. With a big picture of Fauci, it reads along the bottom something to the effect: ”I don’t think… anyone could have done more.” It had the “dot-dot-dot” and everything. It also had Fauci’s voice over, but there’s a noticeable hiccup between the words “think” and “anyone.” I’m almost certain that “dot-dot-dot” held Fauci’s true sentiments; I’m also fairly certain they weren’t defending the Trump administration’s handling of the pandemic. Trump has routinely drug Fauci through the mud, contradicting him every step of the way; how spiteful can you be to skew a man’s words to relay the opposite of his intended message?.
Yea Fauci isn't appreciating having that done at all here.
So then Trump calls him a democrat for speaking up..
 
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Do you really have to ask that about this man?
No, I don't, but it never ceases to amaze how someone with such a tiny penis can be such a huge dick.

Yea Fauci isn't appreciating having that done at all here.
So then Trump calls him a democrat for speaking up..
Ok, good; glad Fauci's speaking up for himself. This was just such a tremendously smug, evil move. How does anyone support this guy??
 
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